*HELP* Proposed Closet Grow Set-Up

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Azure

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I originally planned on going with a dual rubbermaid set-up for my first grow box, but I got a little "inspiration" when I was toking up last night.

Any comments, questions, or critique as far as my proposed grow set-up would be amazing...

Relevant Information/Requirements:

*Closet* (2nd floor)
-My closet is about 8'x4'x9'.
-There are strong metallic (wire type) shelves about 6 feet high.
-There is no ventilation in or out of the closet except for a normal wooden door that opens and closes.
-Average temperature (w/o lights) is about 74 degrees F.
-Average humidity (w/o lights) is about 65%.

*Room* (2nd floor)
-The room with the closet is about 10'x12'x9'.
-It is cooled via a single vent with central A/C (that keeps the temperature between 71-72 degrees) which is across the room from the closet.
-There are also two medium sized windows across the room from the closet.
-I also open the door to the room (which leads to the rest of the house) if it gets too hot.

*Miscellaneous*
-Smell is an issue.
-My budget for lighting is under $200.
-I would like to grow 4 plants at a time.

*To be completely honest, I don't really want to build a grow cab or some other type of enclosure.

Proposed Grow Area and Set-Up:

*Closet*
-Use a 2x4x6 section of the closet.
-Use either a large piece of cardboard (painted white) or a mylar windshield reflector as a divider to "close off" the section.
-Hang my lighting fixture from the shelving, which is mounted/attached to the wall (it's about 1'x4' - so where the light is hung will essentially be the end of the shelving and the middle of the grow space).

*If you are confused about the shelving, it is similar to this, but it is a single rack.

*Basically, it is one of those metal wire racks that you can put boxes on top of, and hang clothing from with plastic hangers (It can support around 20+ lbs. of weight).

*Grow*
-1 Moby Dick and 3 Afghan Kush plants to start.
-Each plant will eventually be transplanted into a 5 gallon bucket.
-I plan on doing LST and topping with each plant.
-I am going to be using FFOF for soil, relevant FF nutes, and molasses.

*Smell*
-Since the grow area is essentially "open" (not sealed like in a stealth cab) I plan on using a mixture of ONA Gel/Pro + Soil Moist + Fan in the closet.
-There will also be a small jar of ONA in my room.
-Most of my clothes in the closet that I will not be using will be sealed in those vacuum space bags.

*Ventilation/Cooling*
-I would either get one or two 8"+ circular fans or a decent tower fan for the plants.
-The door to my room would be open whenever possible (and the windows as well since it is now fall).

*Lighting*
-I was considering the standard 400w HPS/MH set-up from HTG, but after a lot of reading it seems like the heat would end up being a serious problem in my closet.
-My other options are a 250w HPS or an all CFL grow (several 26-46w bulbs on splitters) with some large plant/aquarium lights I have in the garage for side lighting.

My main concerns with the set-up I have listed above are the lighting/heat and the odor control. Would I be able to successfully utilize an HID light in my grow space? Will the ONA provide me with an acceptable level of odor neutralization?

(I have attached a small image of the proposed set-up below.)

~aZ
 

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KingInDaCloset

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Azure said:
I originally planned on going with a dual rubbermaid set-up for my first grow box, but I got a little "inspiration" when I was toking up last night.

Any comments, questions, or critique as far as my proposed grow set-up would be amazing...

Relevant Information/Requirements:

*Closet* (2nd floor)
-My closet is about 8'x4'x9'.
-There are strong metallic (wire type) shelves about 6 feet high.
-There is no ventilation in or out of the closet except for a normal wooden door that opens and closes.
-Average temperature (w/o lights) is about 74 degrees F.
-Average humidity (w/o lights) is about 65%.

*Room* (2nd floor)
-The room with the closet is about 10'x12'x9'.
-It is cooled via a single vent with central A/C (that keeps the temperature between 71-72 degrees) which is across the room from the closet.
-There are also two medium sized windows across the room from the closet.
-I also open the door to the room (which leads to the rest of the house) if it gets too hot.

*Miscellaneous*
-Smell is an issue.
-My budget for lighting is under $200.
-I would like to grow 4 plants at a time.

*To be completely honest, I don't really want to build a grow cab or some other type of enclosure.

Proposed Grow Area and Set-Up:

*Closet*
-Use a 2x4x6 section of the closet.
-Use either a large piece of cardboard (painted white) or a mylar windshield reflector as a divider to "close off" the section.
-Hang my lighting fixture from the shelving, which is mounted/attached to the wall (it's about 1'x4' - so where the light is hung will essentially be the end of the shelving and the middle of the grow space).

*If you are confused about the shelving, it is similar to this, but it is a single rack.

*Basically, it is one of those metal wire racks that you can put boxes on top of, and hang clothing from with plastic hangers (It can support around 20+ lbs. of weight).

*Grow*
-1 Moby Dick and 3 Afghan Kush plants to start.
-Each plant will eventually be transplanted into a 5 gallon bucket.
-I plan on doing LST and topping with each plant.
-I am going to be using FFOF for soil, relevant FF nutes, and molasses.

*Smell*
-Since the grow area is essentially "open" (not sealed like in a stealth cab) I plan on using a mixture of ONA Gel/Pro + Soil Moist + Fan in the closet.
-There will also be a small jar of ONA in my room.
-Most of my clothes in the closet that I will not be using will be sealed in those vacuum space bags.

*Ventilation/Cooling*
-I would either get one or two 8"+ circular fans or a decent tower fan for the plants.
-The door to my room would be open whenever possible (and the windows as well since it is now fall).

*Lighting*
-I was considering the standard 400w HPS/MH set-up from HTG, but after a lot of reading it seems like the heat would end up being a serious problem in my closet.
-My other options are a 250w HPS or an all CFL grow (several 26-46w bulbs on splitters) with some large plant/aquarium lights I have in the garage for side lighting.

My main concerns with the set-up I have listed above are the lighting/heat and the odor control. Would I be able to successfully utilize an HID light in my grow space? Will the ONA provide me with an acceptable level of odor neutralization?

(I have attached a small image of the proposed set-up below.)

~aZ
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Hi, Keep things simple is my advice. Do a system in 2 rubbermaid totes, 2 plants each in 6 inch mesh baskets. Tote is the reservoir full of the nutrients for flowering. Hang a air cooled 250watt HPS light over them. Use a 4inch ducted in line fan connected to the light to remove air/odors & cool the light. Take air from the grow space and blow it out through a small carbon filter vented into the regular closet space through a fake partition. Use 2x2x8 pieces of wood to make a fake frame to attach your cardboard to. Paint it white to look wall like. Leave a flap unattached for access or hinge it at the wall. If need be camouflage the filter with a box or suit case.
Humidity can be trouble. You ought to get a 'Atmospheric controller' that will sense the temp & humidity and activate the fan &/or the de-humidifier at the set temp & humidity levels. Ideally temps need to be around 75-85 F and humidity under 50%. In my closet I have the fan plugged into the temp activated outlet. and small 2 qt dehumidifier into the humidity controlled outlet. A good fan can handle a lot of the humidity issues but since your in an enclosed space I'd also get the dehumidifier if budget permits($60). You don't want mildew in your regular closet!
The fan needs to be able to change out the air volume of your combined veg & flower space in 5 minutes. So calculate your grow space volume and divide by 5 and that equals the minimum size fan you can use. Bigger is better though in this instance so over build this aspect if you can.
You'll also need a small oscillating fan for circulation.
In your grow space you'll need to make a vegitative grow area for a mother plant and clones. It won't take much and can even be done on a unused shelf. I use a third of my space for this. My mother grows in a 5 gallon bucket version of the rubbermaid tote idea. I use a nursery flat with a clear dome to grow my started clones. The mothers reservoir serves to water the clones too. They are all under T-5, 24inch florescents and are separated so their 18 hour light cycle doesn't interfere with the 12 hour light cycle of the HPS light.
You might check in with folks who are experimenting with CFL lighting, cheaper, lower heat and easy to find. Only thing is Lumen out put. Plants need a ton of light and it looks like a pain to wire all the sockets for them but they are getting popular. Anyway hope this helps a little. Jorge Cervantes bible on growing helped me a lot, I recommend it too if you haven't got a book yet. Happy gardening! GrowIT!:weed:
 
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