Help saving these clones please

so I have a bunch of clones that were rooted and transplanted into coco. Unfortunately I was gone for about 5 days after that and they neglected to get water in that time. They are still alive but I havnt been able to get them back growing. I’m giving them advanced nutes grow a and b. The leaves are curled down like they are overwatered but they were actually like that when I got back from the trip as well. Are they in fact overwatered or is it a nutrien lockout from them drying up. Not sure what my best approach is here because I’ve been giving them water and nutes the last couple days. Small watering til I get a little run off but seeing no improvement. Should I flush them or what do you guys think?

The pics show some of the leaf damage. Overall yellow look to the leaves and it seems to be working it’s way from the bottom up which made me think they were not getting enough nutrients. With no improvement the last couple days I’m wondering if it’s nutrinet lockout and and what I’m giving them they just are not able to use.

Thanks

Why would you transplant into coco and then leave for 5, I say 5 days lol.

Never seen a clone with cotyledons either lol. Just messing with you, but see where the stems were cut.

Anyhow, they are hungry and only have a very small root mass to feed from. Give them time.

3rd Monkey said:

Why would you transplant into coco and then leave for 5, I say 5 days lol.

Never seen a clone with cotyledons either lol. Just messing with you, but see where the stems were cut.

Anyhow, they are hungry and only have a very small root mass to feed from. Give them time.

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Lol believe me I was beating myself up over the whole thing. The clones took off in the cloner real quick so I had to get them into pots. Initially I was going to leave them in there til I was back. Had my brother stay at my place but he was so busy with the girls in flower and snow storms and work that I felt bad asking him to maintain both so I just said a prayer they would make it. My first run in coco. I usually do soil or hydro. I been doing small waterings everyday though.
So you think I should just keep doing what I’m doing and they will bounce back? I been back since Tuesday and they haven’t gotten any better yet.
No need to do a flush or anything?

Thanks for help

They look healthy, just hungry. I mean, they're still standing lol. I'm assuming the crunchy leaves were like that when you got back?

3rd Monkey said:

They look healthy, just hungry. I mean, they're still standing lol. I'm assuming the crunchy leaves were like that when you got back?

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yeah idk if healthy is the right word lol but they are still saveable. And they were actually looking good 2 days after i left and then must have dried up because when I got back there were a bunch of those crusty leaves. Just weird that they havnt really seemed to grow at all since I got back late Tuesday night. Figured they woulda taken a couple days and started to improve with new growth but they actually look worse. The very top growth kinda has brown edges like its being burned or it sucking the nutrients out of the leaves but it shouldnt because they are being fed. Feels like I’m doing more damage to them

You're feeding very lightly right? Like a seedling.

3rd Monkey said:

You're feeding very lightly right? Like a seedling.

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I was doing 1ml per gallon of a and b for advanced nutrients. Should I try cutting back to .5ml per gallon and see if that makes a difference. I just didn’t want to not give them enough since they were already really hungry.

TrichomeChaser said:

I was doing 1ml per gallon of a and b for advanced nutrients. Should I try cutting back to .5ml per gallon and see if that makes a difference. I just didn’t want to not give them enough since they were already really hungry.

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Looks like the tips are showing burn, so maybe.

Just treat them like seedlings. Easy on the water and nutes, not too much light (which might be your problem, didn't ask), and let them dry out so the roots push out.

3rd Monkey said:

Looks like the tips are showing burn, so maybe.

Just treat them like seedlings. Easy on the water and nutes, not too much light (which might be your problem, didn't ask), and let them dry out so the roots push out.

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Okay I’ll cut back to .5 and see if that helps. They should still grow though even if it was a little too strong right? I thought with coco your suppose to do light waterings everyday? The roots are def growing. Can see them down at the bottoms of the pots now. And for a light I have a 4 foot 4 bulb t5 over 16 clones

TrichomeChaser said:

Okay I’ll cut back to .5 and see if that helps. They should still grow though even if it was a little too strong right? I thought with coco your suppose to do light waterings everyday? The roots are def growing. Can see them down at the bottoms of the pots now. And for a light I have a 4 foot 4 bulb t5 over 16 clones

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Yea, every day to runoff. Sometimes twice a day. Dries quick when you put a root mass in it.

T5, rock on.

Didn't ask but did you flush and charge that coco before you used it?

TrichomeChaser said:

I was doing 1ml per gallon of a and b for advanced nutrients. Should I try cutting back to .5ml per gallon and see if that makes a difference. I just didn’t want to not give them enough since they were already really hungry.

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I use A+B and feed 250ppm to clones. Up your feeding my friend.

^^^ There you go. I don't use those nutes.

3rd Monkey said:

Yea, every day to runoff. Sometimes twice a day. Dries quick when you put a root mass in it.

T5, rock on.

Didn't ask but did you flush and charge that coco before you used it?

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I did not. I watered the coco before I put the clones in but I didn’t flush it with a bunch of run off. First time in coco and I asked the dude at the shop I use if I had to add anything to or do anything with it and he said no. What an asshole. Been going there for years toO! They were looking good couple days after I left and then they started to look shitty after couple days with no water. Maybe it was a combination of both?

Delztronics said:

I use A+B and feed 250ppm to clones. Up your feeding my friend.

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That’s why I thought initially but if that’s the case what is the cause of what appears to be nutrient burn on the top leaves edges?

The pic I just added show one which is in better shape then the others but still had a yellow color but the upper leaves still have a little brown around the edges like they are getting burned

TrichomeChaser said:

I did not. I watered the coco before I put the clones in but I didn’t flush it with a bunch of run off. First time in coco and I asked the dude at the shop I use if I had to add anything to or do anything with it and he said no. What an asshole. Been going there for years toO! They were looking good couple days after I left and then they started to look shitty after couple days with no water. Maybe it was a combination of both?



That’s why I thought initially but if that’s the case what is the cause of what appears to be nutrient burn on the top leaves edges?

The pic I just added show one which is in better shape then the others but still had a yellow color but the upper leaves still have a little brown around the edges like they are getting burned

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It looks like nute burn to me. You could have some temp issues and ph issues also.

TrichomeChaser said:

I did not. I watered the coco before I put the clones in but I didn’t flush it with a bunch of run off. First time in coco and I asked the dude at the shop I use if I had to add anything to or do anything with it and he said no. What an asshole. Been going there for years toO! They were looking good couple days after I left and then they started to look shitty after couple days with no water. Maybe it was a combination of both?



That’s why I thought initially but if that’s the case what is the cause of what appears to be nutrient burn on the top leaves edges?

The pic I just added show one which is in better shape then the others but still had a yellow color but the upper leaves still have a little brown around the edges like they are getting burned

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Coco needs to be flushed and charged.

Now you're into the ph/ppm realm.

Delztronics said:

It looks like nute burn to me. You could have some temp issues and ph issues also.

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If it looks like nutrients burn why would I up my ppm though?

Temps are good. I have them in a spare bedroom. Doesn’t get too hot in there especailly with the t5 and I have a little fan.

I was hoping it wasn’t the ph especailly since it’s the advanced nutrients ph perfect. Got them so I wouldn’t have to worry about the ph so much.

What would you recommend I do in this situation to try and get things back on track?

Thanks

3rd Monkey said:

Coco needs to be flushed and charged.

Now you're into the ph/ppm realm.

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Well that sucks. Anything’s I can do now to fix it or would a flush accomplish nothing? Should I just toss these things?

TrichomeChaser said:

Well that sucks. Anything’s I can do now to fix it or would a flush accomplish nothing? Should I just toss these things?

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Test your coco. Got any left? If not, scoop some out of the pot and do a slurry test or you can rock your runoff. That'll tell you a lot for starters. PH and ppm.

3rd Monkey said:

Test your coco. Got any left? If not, scoop some out of the pot and do a slurry test or you can rock your runoff. That'll tell you a lot for starters. PH and ppm.

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I do still have some left. I used canna coco. In the bag. It’s not a brick. I am stumped. They don’t have much healthy leaf left either. How do I test the coco. Just take some from the bag and run water thru it to see what runoff shows?

TrichomeChaser said:

I do still have some left. I used canna coco. In the bag. It’s not a brick. I am stumped. They don’t have much healthy leaf left either. How do I test the coco. Just take some from the bag and run water thru it to see what runoff shows?

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Put it in a cup with equal part of 7.0 water. Ph it if you have to. Mix it around and let it set for a few mins. Then check ppm and ph.