HELP! w/ perpetual design for cancer patient

I just got settled into my new home. It's a 3 bedroom 2 car garage single family and I wanted to get a perpetual harvest setup going, but I was a little confused. Me and my wife both have recommendations, mine for 25 and hers for 50, she is very sick with pancreatic cancer and the medicine aids her a lot. Most of this will be turned to concentrate and medibles.

Now, for my question. If I had a veg room, kept a few mothers, then a pre-flowering, and flowering room. 3 in total. With 25 plants in each room at any given time. What is my best bet to achieve 1.5 ounces per plant with this setup and be able to harvest a set of 25 as much as possible. I have access to strong genetics so that's not an issue.

I just want to be guided in the right direction before I invest in this. I'm curious as to know the amount of wattage I should have to achieve that goal, how long I should veg, etc. any insight anyone can provide is much appreciate. All opinions welcomed.

I think 25 per room is going to be hard to get the timing right if you're limited to 75 plants. If you had 15 plants per cycle you could have 4 generations growing at a time as well as mothers.This keeps you under the limit and in time you should be able to get on an every three week harvest schedule.
With 4 1000w lamps in the main flower room you can easily harvest 15 plants every three weeks. You should easily pull 30 oz each time. In preflower a couple 600w should do the trick. Veg rooms can be all T5's, probably 2x8 bulb fixtures and a couple smaller ones over clones and mothers.
Keeping the environment in check will be the biggest challenge. Don't get cheap on this or all the other work and money spent on equipment wont get you to your goal.
Hope this helps,
Fred

your new. you don't know how to top or trim. or how to bamboo pole the plants up. I would suggest just for you, 1 foot tall veg 3 gallon pots. place 6 plants per 600 hps lamp. and 8 plants under a thousand watts. they wont pull 1.5 ounce. your new. but more on the low side of an ounce. your ounce goal is way to high your new. your plant number is way to high as well. I used to be allowed to do 72 plants. I only do 60 now. and I have 14 lights in flower. if you had a monster set up then you need to veg them until there 2.5 to 3 feet tall and 4 plants per light max yield and pull 2 to 6 ounces a plant depending on experience. to set the room up proper. for all those plants. your talking .5 plus grand to meet your goal.

Treeman,
First off, I'm so sorry your wife is sick. That's rough. I hope your efforts pay off to help keep her comfortable.

You haven't said what experience you have. And what style of grow you would prefer. Soil, coco, hydro...lots of options. For a beginner, soil is probably best.

And as I read your thread, it seems to me that your just looking to have a continuous grow. A regular 8-9 week flower room with new plants waiting to go in...once you harvest.

Perpetual harvest usually refers to a grow setup with like maybe 3 separate staggered flower areas...so that you could do a harvest every three weeks. That's not what you're thinking about...is it? There's a thread entitled "harvest a pound every three weeks" or AlBFuct's thread "get a harvest every two weeks"...over in the hydro section. Those are true perpetual harvest grows but are labor intensive and not for a newbie.

So if you could answer and clarify those points...I think the help we could offer might be more useful.
Take care,
JD

Dude, I completely understand, my wife spent over 400 days in the hospital and we have three small children. You really should check my thread in hydro, my three stages of flower, I run a perpetual grow using three separate flower systems and harvest every three weeks. Every three weeks I harvest 12 plants and put 12 more into flower with an average 40+oz per harvest. And actually they are not that labor intensive, in the last 5-6 days I have spent less than an hour total in there.

TOTAL 72 PLANTS AT ALL TIMES - cloning from plants in week 1-2 flower
this might give you a better idea of whats going on when.. you can also choose to have mothers but thats just more light and space

put your mother, clones, and vegging plants in the same room. they need the same environment and it will save you on buying extra cooling and fans.

i did mine like this...

I have 4 "stations"
Station #1 cloning. 14days. in cloner, 16 days in cups. 2'x2' area with ezcloner & 4 2'ft t5's.
Station #2 Vegging 30 days. 5'x5' tent in bedroom with 600w mh. 4 Mothers & up to 25 3 gal SMART pots fit
Station #3 & #4 flower 60 days. flower room has 4 1k hps lights. 2 Stagger 30 days apart from other 2
When the 30 days are up in veg they go to table 1 & 2. Next 30 days got to table 3 & 4.
Every 30 days I harvest 2 1000 watt lights. Dry & cure takes 30 days also. It's easy to scale this down in size but the 4 stations at 30 day intervals is the key.
Also my design of the room is panda film & 1x2 for the walls. If your renting you only need 1 hole for exhaust.

good luck. one piece of advice though. if you are gonna do a room that big don't use panda for your walls. splurge on some plywood or sheetrock. you're gonna need sturdier walls and you may wanna hang things on them.

i can give u a simpler set up

buy 4 tents
2 4x4x6
2 3x3x6


here it goes
1 tent is 3x3x6 is now a starting tent ...........use a simple 2 foot 8 bulb T5 (this will allow u to use a jiffy plug tray on top of the warm light ) .......u start the plant in here and grow it for about 10 days move it to tent 2

2 tent is a 4x4x6 tent ..........this is your veggie tent u would go atleast a 600w MH even a 1000w .........this is where they grow when u see signs /time to flower u move it to tent 3

3 tent is a 4x4x6 ..............this is your flower tent i go with a 1000w HPS if u have the extra cash maybe some LED ufos for hitting that outer edge(i like over kill) ........u flower flower flower in here untill it is time to cut them ............then tent 4

4 tent is a 3x3x6 ...........this is your dry cure are u order a carbon filter with a simple booster fan (controll smell) run a passvie intake use one of the quick dry/cure racks it hang inside like 6 teirs they hold 4 oz a teir .at the bottom u have a fan that moves blowing around ........just zip up the tent for 7 days come back and trim down for jars.......................since it is a tent u are controlling the humity u can add a controller with dehumitifer/humitifer


now u grow auto flowering plants ..........these are simple and easy plants they grow to a lvl then automatically go into flowering (no 12/12 time) so your going on a 20/4 time whole way from seed to cut the time is around 70 to 90 days on most plants seed to cut

once u start the growing u just keep it going each month u start a new set move to veg veg moves to flowering flowering moves to dry cure jared up and out to the ppl that need it

buying a lot of tents means buying a lot of fans and figuring out how to control the temps in all of the tents. rooms work better cause you just have to worry about the equipment, cooling, etc... for a single space. just my opinion.

huh

controlling a large room is alot more money/resorces then controlling a smaller tent

larger rooms means more btus in cooling ...........it removes the use of tanked co2 u need a burner( means u need more fire protection).............to do photos u need( veg and flower) 2 rooms ............to dry u need a room (humity temp and light controlled)............the cost of the gear to do rooms only work if u are selling the weed to someplace for a decent profit to cover the cost of the equipment and the running costs of OPing it

a tent set up u are in one room .............that set up i said can be run in a 15x15x7 room that is one ac/heater to controll the intake air ............the exhust system only needs to be tied into 2 tents (veggie and flower) starter/dry are run off booster fans that dump back into the room .................i am not trying to controll a bunch of dead area that has no benfit it to me .............the tents is the areas u need at a cost effective lvl that u only need to part with 2 to 3 oz a month to completely pay for it (seeds power feed) and all the extra is yours or profit for breaking bad ppl

justugh said:

huh

controlling a large room is alot more money/resorces then controlling a smaller tent

larger rooms means more btus in cooling ...........it removes the use of tanked co2 u need a burner( means u need more fire protection).............to do photos u need( veg and flower) 2 rooms ............to dry u need a room (humity temp and light controlled)............the cost of the gear to do rooms only work if u are selling the weed to someplace for a decent profit to cover the cost of the equipment and the running costs of OPing it

a tent set up u are in one room .............that set up i said can be run in a 15x15x7 room that is one ac/heater to controll the intake air ............the exhust system only needs to be tied into 2 tents (veggie and flower) starter/dry are run off booster fans that dump back into the room .................i am not trying to controll a bunch of dead area that has no benfit it to me .............the tents is the areas u need at a cost effective lvl that u only need to part with 2 to 3 oz a month to completely pay for it (seeds power feed) and all the extra is yours or profit for breaking bad ppl

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rooms built to the spec of your plant needs are far more efficient than trying to run multiple tents in a perpetual grow. I've done them both at varying sizes and a framed out structure is always more efficient in my opinion. controlling the environment in 1 room is easier than in a bunch of tents. and a lot easier to work in. I don't see any dead space in my room and I can run a 30 day perpetual using either bank of lights. as far as drying rooms...I put my plants in the dark for 3 days then harvest in the dark. I have a small room in the corner of the workspace that is vented and I use that to hang my curing buds. lot more economical and efficient in my opinion; especially compared to 3 tents. but every growers environment and finances are different. but in the end...most growers would take a room over a tent any day of the week if that was an option.

It costs me $450-500 a month to run that room I posted. Electricity, nutes, water, promix everything. It cost around $5000 to set it up but that was built up over time. I designed the room when I only had 2 lights & built into it over the last 6 months or so. The room paid for itself the first harvest. 2lbs per month harvest = $6500 a month profit.

Remi1 said:

It costs me $450-500 a month to run that room I posted. Electricity, nutes, water, promix everything. It cost around $5000 to set it up but that was built up over time. I designed the room when I only had 2 lights & built into it over the last 6 months or so. The room paid for itself the first harvest. 2lbs per month harvest = $6500 a month profit.

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nice, can't beat that. I build my rooms cause i'm in the business of real estate development. always have the tools, extra materials, and employees to help out. I like to go big. I understand it's not for everyone. but for me it's half the fun; the design and construction.

tent cost me around 1800 total 4 lights 4 tents 4 fans ...3 air pumps 2 hydro buckets several soil bags and about 6 cubic feet of soil plus feed lines

i grow 5 plants for my first time sold 2 of them (each plant made me 4 oz in 72 days from seed to sale)

the whole veiw i have is a tent is safer/ cheaper
the cost to set it up is lower
and the number of plants u grow at one time is controlled u can not pass the limit and look at major time (i am sorry the rooms good for places they do not raid/ allow u to have plants in the 99 numbers ) but places that limit u to 4 or 6 plants in flowering stage why take the change of getting in shit just to make extra to sell off

i grow enough to supply myself and about 12 ppl i trust (some of them even gave me start up money becuase they wanted a locked price for life)