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Purpnugz

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Soil prep ideas??
I have 8 seedlings about 3weeks old.

Bag of ocean forest
Bag of happy frog
Bag of perlite
Happy frog fruit and flower
Happy frog jump start
Bat guano nitrogen 5.0.0
Bag of mykos
Bag of earthworm castings

Any ideas on how to mix,what I'm missing or what to hold off on ladies and gents
 
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goldberg71b

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Soil prep ideas??
I have 8 seedlings about 3weeks old.

Bag of ocean forest
Bag of happy frog
Bag of perlite
Happy frog fruit and flower
Happy frog jump start
Bat guano nitrogen 5.0.0
Bag of mykos
Bag of earthworm castings

Any ideas on how to mix or what I'm missing ladies and gents
Those are things you should decide. Investigate ---> use that search bar. Everything you need is at the tip of your fingers. When you narrow it down you'd be better served asking a direct question.

If following instructions is what you want there are many soil posts with a list.
 

Bareback

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Soil prep ideas??
I have 8 seedlings about 3weeks old.

Bag of ocean forest
Bag of happy frog
Bag of perlite
Happy frog fruit and flower
Happy frog jump start
Bat guano nitrogen 5.0.0
Bag of mykos
Bag of earthworm castings

Any ideas on how to mix,what I'm missing or what to hold off on ladies and gents

I mix mine in a large wheelbarrow. Using a two gallon bucket and a two cup measuring cup.

One bucket of ffof, one bucket of ffof, one bucket of perilite, one cup of bat, two cups of ewc 2/4 oz mycos .

I have not used the others on your list.

But to my mix I add 4 oz d-lime , one cup of clay cat litter, 2 oz ammoiniom sulfate. Then I mix it really well and water it and let it set for 3/4 weeks. I use this from start to finish, except for I start seeds in root riot cubes and I clone in root riot cubes.

This is how I do it, I'm not saying it is perfect but I like it. Sometimes I will vary my mix but it's not by much.
 

1weedz4

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Yea Ocean Forest is way too hot for seedlings and clones. I just use Happy Frog with some perlite and it keeps them green for days.
 

Dr. Who

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Might be a bit rich that mix, i would go with ocean and perlite for now and hold the frogs and bats.
Yea Ocean Forest is way too hot for seedlings and clones. I just use Happy Frog with some perlite and it keeps them green for days.
@Purpnugz

Monkey Muffin's! Non organic schmeckel's...anyway!

What you have there is the makings of a variation on the old "moonshine" mix.
That is a water only soil, generally used for blooming......We can take what you have and adjust it a bit to make it more,,,,oh, start to finish...

I would have preferred Happy Frog Tomato fert..Over the friut and flower...But I think we can work with what you have to temper the P and up the N a bit.

I would really like to see a bag of BLACK GOLD soil on the list too.....We can work with out it if we have too. (better to have it though)

Get some KELP MEAL & ALFALFA MEAL !!!!
Get some powdered DOLOMITE LIME


Ok, here we go - this is the formula for the soil with BLACK GOLD ( I'll give you one for "not" having Black gold next)

1 whole bag FF Happy frog
1/2 bag Black Gold
1/2 bag FFOF
5 gallons of course perlite
2 gallons of EWC
1 cup Dolomite lime
3 cups of kelp meal
2 cups of fertilizer "MIX"
1 cup of the Myko's (you have it = might as well use it - not "required" but may have strains of fungus/bacteria that aren't in the soil's or EWC)

(The fert mix is made like this)
1.5 cups of the dry FF Fruit and Flower
1/4 cup Alfalfa meal
1/4 cup bat guano

Fert mix #2 (If you get the FF Tomato)
Just the FF Tomato at the given amount of 2 cups to the soil mix.

But add to the soil mix for the Tomato fert use.
1 cup of Alfalfa meal


Mix this all together well and store in a mason jar - with a plastic lid.

Mix all of these things together (WELL) and wet the soil to be like a damp sponge - not dripping but, damp. Cover the soil and let it sit for 3-4 weeks and turn it every few days till done.

You now have a soil that you will simply water....IF late in bloom it begins to drop off a bit (it shouldn't, if you did it like I gave you) water with a mild fert tea....You can buy a 3-2-5 organic tea from AN (Shh - don't tell anyone I said AN) if your not able to make tea's - use that at full strength as the label directs..every other watering.

Do your seedlings in another soil and you can put them in this soil once you up pot from solo cups - be sure the plant is well rooted in the Solo's (roots spiraling the bottom of the cup) before transplanting. Over 10" is good and 12" is better.

If your going to run in 5 gallon pots or bigger. Go Solo's to 1 gallons - to 3 gallons. When you are ready to start flowering - Up pot to your final pot size and keep the plant in veg for 8-10 days and flip to flower! This will be "water only" this way!

If you don't get BLACK GOLD soil.
Simply use all the FFOF and half the bag of EWC.


Do everything else as directed!

Welcome to the wonderful world of Organic, water only growing!
Enjoy your self!
 
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Purpnugz

Well-Known Member
@Purpnugz

Monkey Muffin's! Non organic schmeckel's...anyway!

What you have there is the makings of a variation on the old "moonshine" mix.
That is a water only soil, generally used for blooming......We can take what you have and adjust it a bit to make it more,,,,oh, start to finish...

I would have preferred Happy Frog Tomato fert..Over the friut and flower...But I think we can work with what you have to temper the P and up the N a bit.

I would really like to see a bag of BLACK GOLD soil on the list too.....We can work with out it if we have too. (better to have it though)

Get some KELP MEAL & ALFALFA MEAL !!!!
Get some powdered DOLOMITE LIME


Ok, here we go - this is the formula for the soil with BLACK GOLD ( I'll give you one for "not" having Black gold next)

1 whole bag FF Happy frog
1 whole bag Black Gold
1/2 bag FFOF
5 gallons of course perlite
2 gallons of EWC
1 cup Dolomite lime
3 cups of kelp meal
1.5 cups of fertilizer "MIX"
1 cup of the Myko's (you have it = might as well use it - not "required" but may have strains of fungus/bacteria that aren't in the soil's or EWC)

(The fert mix is made like this)
1.5 cups of the dry FF Fruit and Flower
1/4 cup Alfalfa meal
1/4 cup bat guano

Fert mix #2 (If you get the FF Tomato)
Just the FF Tomato at the given amount of 1.5 cups to the soil mix.

But add to the soil mix for the Tomato fert use.
1 cup of Alfalfa meal


Mix this all together well and store in a mason jar - with a plastic lid.

Mix all of these things together (WELL) and wet the soil to be like a damp sponge - not dripping but, damp. Cover the soil and let it sit for 3-4 weeks and turn it every few days till done.

You now have a soil that you will simply water....IF late in bloom it begins to drop off a bit (it shouldn't, if you did it like I gave you) water with a mild fert tea....You can buy a 3-2-5 organic tea from AN (Shh - don't tell anyone I said AN) if your not able to make tea's - use that at full strength as the label directs..every other watering.

Do your seedlings in another soil and you can put them in this soil once you up pot from solo cups - be sure the plant is well rooted in the Solo's (roots spiraling the bottom of the cup) before transplanting. Over 10" is good and 12" is better.

If your going to run in 5 gallon pots or bigger. Go Solo's to 1 gallons - to 3 gallons. When you are ready to start flowering - Up pot to your final pot size and keep the plant in veg for 8-10 days and flip to flower! This will be "water only" this way!

If you don't get BLACK GOLD soil.
Simply use all the FFOF and all the EWC.


Do everything else as directed!

Welcome to the wonderful world of Organic, water only growing!
Enjoy your self!
Dr who is a whos who of info. Bump
 

Purpnugz

Well-Known Member
Dr who if I'm not using black gold is this the formula corrected ???
1 whole bag FF Happy frog
While bag of FFOF
5 gallons of course perlite
2 gallons of EWC
1 cup Dolomite lime
3 cups of kelp meal
2 cups of fertilizer "MIX"
1 cup of the Myko's (you have it = might as well use it - not "required" but may have strains of fungus/bacteria that aren't in the soil's or EWC)

(The fert mix is made like this)
1.5 cups of the dry FF Fruit and Flower
1/4 cup Alfalfa meal
1/4 cup bat guano

Discard the happy frog jump start? I originally got it for veg.
 

harris hawk

Well-Known Member
Soil prep ideas??
I have 8 seedlings about 3weeks old.

Bag of ocean forest
Bag of happy frog
Bag of perlite
Happy frog fruit and flower
Happy frog jump start
Bat guano nitrogen 5.0.0
Bag of mykos
Bag of earthworm castings

Any ideas on how to mix,what I'm missing or what to hold off on ladies and gents
sounds like to use "extreme gardening" stuff ? great products
 
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