Here we grow...

Ok I am totally sorry for neglecting you with the post, Everything looks F- ing awesome and well taken care of I only wish I could be there to enjoy stages of growth in person. But I know I will see them when the time comes. I Bow to the Power of the Ruiner. Your the Best Big Bro Ever let me know what I can do to help you out from afar. later

Daukness said:

Ok I am totally sorry for neglecting you with the post, Everything looks F- ing awesome and well taken care of I only wish I could be there to enjoy stages of growth in person. But I know I will see them when the time comes. I Bow to the Power of the Ruiner. Your the Best Big Bro Ever let me know what I can do to help you out from afar. later

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Totally forgivable Daukness, just looking for some love homie... that's how you can help, check back and give feedback, feels good hearin' it from ya!
And ohh yes, you'll see the fruits of my labor!

Looks good on top in there, a little more dead growth on the bottom, here's a pic. Like I said: The bottom line is, at this point, there will be a harvest. So, I'm just going to try and learn as much as I can along this crazy ride, I'm more than half way done and sometimes I'm just impressed that I have this 6-7 foot tall plant bent enough to fix into this tent and under this light! I love this. You guys doing this right are the coolest motherf-ckers ever...

Wow, I can't believe what a difference turning that bright ass HID HPS off makes, pictures with it on and off, I'm gonna have to get a few more like that tomorrow when I water again...

Buds are making me happier every day just looking at them. Still wondering what the yellowing leaves could be. Makes me keep wondering if I shouldn't feed extremely lightly tomorrow in the event that it is a lack of some essential element... what's funny is that there is even new growth on the lower older part of the plants trunk, so there will be a big ass low fan leave with burns edges turning yellow with a beautiful little mini bud right beside it with healthy new green leaves sticking all out of it!

I watered the next day as planned with 2 gallons of PH'ed RO water around 6.3.
I noticed more discolored dieing growth when watering, the next day it was visibly worse so this morning I fed one day sooner than I had planned. My reasoning is that the plant must have been lacking some essential element, if I stopped feeding it and the signs only got worse then it was something I was missing, not giving it too much of.
So here's what I gave her:

1 tsp tiger
1/2 tbl BigBloom
1/8 tsp ChaChing
1/4 tsp cal-mag plus
well water
660ppm
4.17 ph'ed too - 6.11


I pre-watered about 3 cups plain well water, then went back and gave her the majority of the gallon of nutes. We'll see what that does and adjust from there. Roughly 6 weeks of flower left.

Get your PH to 6.5-6.7 every time, even plain water. Give Tiger Bloom 1 tbl and 1 tbl big bloom and check them in 2 days. If all looks well or getting better, give same again.

GoldenGanja13 said:

Get your PH to 6.5-6.7 every time, even plain water. Give Tiger Bloom 1 tbl and 1 tbl big bloom and check them in 2 days. If all looks well or getting better, give same again.

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Right on, will do. I ph everytime, even plain water to the range you mentioned, (or slightly lower). I already fed this morning with the regiment I listed above, but it included both the nutes you mentioned. I was working back up after a flush so I didn't wanna give them to much too soon, if they like what I've given them then I'll step it up a little more next feeding, I'm afraid that my initial issues resulted from me locking out some nutes by not watering enough between feedings, and feeding to often. I appreciate your input man, I can use every bit of it!

I think it's more of a nute lock out due to ph off. When you ph at 6.5 (lowest you should) the ph may drop a few points in the soil. Myself I ph at 6.7 knowing that the drain will be at 6.5

GoldenGanja13 said:

I think it's more of a nute lock out due to ph off. When you ph at 6.5 (lowest you should) the ph may drop a few points in the soil. Myself I ph at 6.7 knowing that the drain will be at 6.5

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I see, I have a meter in the soil telling me it was 6.5 this morning, I'll double check it when I get home today, I even bought a second meter to verify this one that was DOA, great luck huu?

Check your soil before watering, then water and check the out put then check the soil again. Try and narrow down the problem. Myself I never checked soil ph or run off until I went organic. And now I do it once in a while just to see how it's going.

GoldenGanja13 said:

Check your soil before watering, then water and check the out put then check the soil again. Try and narrow down the problem. Myself I never checked soil ph or run off until I went organic. And now I do it once in a while just to see how it's going.

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the PH meter I have isn't digital, it's reading just above the half way mark between the six and the seven, about 6.6 - 6.7
I've been checking it pretty regularly just to make sure it's in the right range...

why wait until you went organic? Also, big difference noticed when you did?

I'll get this figured out yet!
Did some more lst'ing today because the lower branches are starting to droop from the weight of the buds!

I didn't care what the soil ph was because when I fed/watered it was 6.5 every time, and not being organic it did not matter what the runoff was. The roots where being flooded with heavy nutes and they only need a little. But that's the way chemicals work, we flood the roots and they take in a little. Organic is different. We give a little and allow the microbeasties to clear the way for the uptake of what is needed.

TheRuiner said:

the PH meter I have isn't digital, it's reading just above the half way mark between the six and the seven, about 6.6 - 6.7
I've been checking it pretty regularly just to make sure it's in the right range...

why wait until you went organic? Also, big difference noticed when you did?

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Those buds will fatten up real soon.

This morning I watered with 4 gallons of ph'ed well water as follows:
2 gallons ph'ed @ 6.22
1 gallon @ 6.05
1 gallon @ 5.97

run off ph was 6.06

Older growth fan leaves are still slowly dropping and old growth is still slowly dieing, tips are still curly on upper growth. The one leaf I'm watching is a little more brown on the outside in spots and a little more yellow all over. This is discouraging. All the basics appear to be fne, temp, PH, lots of attention and care... plants old growth continues to go down hill though. I watered with plenty of run off this time, when I was giving one gallon, today I gave four. I couldn't find my camera, so when I do this weekend, or Monday when I feed again, I'll get some pics...
thoughts, opinions, suggestions, insults?

The good, bad and ugly again.... I'm open to suggestions if anyone thinks they know just whats wrong... Buds are slowly getting fatter and leaves and slowly looking crappier.


pre watered about 1/8 gallon RO water
1/4 tsp cal mag
1 tsp Tiger Bloom
1/2 tbl Big Bloom
heavy 1/8 tsp Cha Ching
600 ppms
6.49 phed to 6.32 because i forgot to ph the first 1/8 gallon, doh!
leaves yellowing, older leaves browning and dropping
soil ph is at about 6.5

wait till your soil is completely dry before adding more water to cause all you will do is drownd you roots. a suggestion is when using ff just do half of what the schedule says and add from there your plants look fertilizer burnt, flush with plain water for a week and then start with half strength ff and add from there. and also I have noticed that ff dosent work well with other stuff

I agree, nute burn. Do not give nutes at every watering. Nice plant besides. She will be fine.

mudd1280 said:

wait till your soil is completely dry before adding more water to cause all you will do is drownd you roots. a suggestion is when using ff just do half of what the schedule says and add from there your plants look fertilizer burnt, flush with plain water for a week and then start with half strength ff and add from there. and also I have noticed that ff dosent work well with other stuff

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mudd,
I like your sig, Placebo is the shit. That is what your referring too right?
Read back a few weeks, I just did a flush and I've never gone over half the feeding schedule the entire grow, only other thing I'm using is cal-mag, and some molasses that I cut out early on, I'm saving that for just a few feedings from now. Thanks for your help but your not up to speed i don't think... peace

maniacal420 said:

I agree, nute burn. Do not give nutes at every watering. Nice plant besides. She will be fine.

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I respectfully question that. I haven't fed with every water.

Let me say without sounding snobby; fine is not my taste, I demand world class or nothing at all. Thanks for the complement and the optimistic encouragement.