Here's a good reason not to use tap water
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TetraHyC
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100ppm should be ok, why so low on the pH?
grobofotwanky
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i was having a problem with keeping my res. stable when using tap water. Switched to bottled distilled for 40 cents a gal, been happy ever since.
Al B. Fuct
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Using Sydney's evil 200-400ppm @ 7.1-8.0 municipal tapwater, I've done about 192 crops of 23 plants (4416 plants) in the last 8 years.Well, I guess you guys are smarter than me. My tap water is 8.2 and 500ppm and I've haven't had any problems using it for the last 60 hydro crops.
HTH
Somebody HEP ME! HEP ME!
And won't someone tell the fraudsters to stop selling those damn calcium & magnesium supplements (eg Cal-Mag) to all those who have paid heaps to remove the Ca & Mg with RO to drop their ppm?
LoudBlunts
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1000 ppms....fucking wow!
Al B. Fuct
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There's something amiss. If I dipped tapwater and saw 1000ppm, I'd be checking that meter against a known value calibration solution. If there were 1000ppm of Ca in tapwater, a water heater would last about a year before the heating element was crusted in lime deposits.
From Virginia Tech Univ, Virginia Cooperative Extension:
From Virginia Tech Univ, Virginia Cooperative Extension:
1000ppm would nearly have rocks falling out of the taps.
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Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
Here's a great read about water quality and the quackery that often surrounds it.
Water pseudoscience and quackery
Water pseudoscience and quackery
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
whoa, water info goldmine for Aussie growers!
http://www.sydneywater.com.au/Publications/Reports/TypicalWaterAnalysis.pdf#Page=1
http://www.melbournewater.com.au/content/water/water_quality_and_treatment/analysis_of_melbournes_water_for_2006.asp
Current water quality in Queensland - EPA/QPWS
The water supply in Perth, Australia
Water Consumption in Urban Settlements - Quality of Mains Water Assessed Against Water Quality Criteria
Everything down to the recorded TDS & pH.
Your local water utility probably publishes these figures too. Google "water quality [city name]".
http://www.sydneywater.com.au/Publications/Reports/TypicalWaterAnalysis.pdf#Page=1
http://www.melbournewater.com.au/content/water/water_quality_and_treatment/analysis_of_melbournes_water_for_2006.asp
Current water quality in Queensland - EPA/QPWS
The water supply in Perth, Australia
Water Consumption in Urban Settlements - Quality of Mains Water Assessed Against Water Quality Criteria
Everything down to the recorded TDS & pH.
Your local water utility probably publishes these figures too. Google "water quality [city name]".
Mr Green Man
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Yep, thats what it's like in my local village, luckly for me I live abour 10 meters above where the water comes from so I my own well. the water is better, but still not great around 200ppm. seems to do the job, mostly calcum so I will buy Hardwater nutes next time around.There's something amiss. If I dipped tapwater and saw 1000ppm, I'd be checking that meter against a known value calibration solution. If there were 1000ppm of Ca in tapwater, a water heater would last about a year before the heating element was crusted in lime deposits.
From Virginia Tech Univ, Virginia Cooperative Extension:
1000ppm would nearly have rocks falling out of the taps.
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
I don't think I'd call you lucky. I'd much rather have water from a modern treatment plant than straight out of my own bore.
Mr Green Man
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Really?
I would rather drink from a shallow water well than the town water that is full of clorien and floride. As it happens out water is deep, very deep, and having drunk it for a good while, I don't even like getting a cup of coffie in town beacuse of the taste of the water.
Still each to there own.
I would rather drink from a shallow water well than the town water that is full of clorien and floride. As it happens out water is deep, very deep, and having drunk it for a good while, I don't even like getting a cup of coffie in town beacuse of the taste of the water.
Still each to there own.
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
heh, chlorine and fluoride won't hurt either YOU or your plants! If you believe these are hazards, you may be a victim of water pseudoscience and quackery.
Fluoridation and chlorination provide significant benefits to public health at near-nil risk. There's a reason why people in areas with fluoridation have better teeth- and it's not phases of the moon. There's also a reason why waterborne disease is nonexistent in areas with chlorinated municipal water supplies.
Chlorination is the gardener's friend. It suppresses pathogens while the water is in the pipes on the way to you and will protect an open tank of nute solution against colonisation by fungi, bacteria etc for a couple of days until the chlorine evaporates. After that, you need to apply an anti-pathogen agent like H2O2 periodically or your nutrient soup is fair game for any passing microbe which finds it tasty.
Some have argued that chlorination kills beneficial microbes in soil. Bullshit.
Here's my 12 ft tall cherry tomato plant, grown organically in soil & compost- and a nearly straight diet of chlorinated water from the garden hose. It does not look very dead.
From a human health perspective, I'd far and away prefer municipal water. Down at the water treatment plant, there's some very well-educated people monitoring water quality 24/7/365. Most water utils publish periodic water testing results openly and transparently.
Unless you're a sucker for conspiracy theories, that ought to be enough to make you fairly confident about municipal water, certainly much more so than about water of completely unknown composition from a hole in your yard- and just how far is that bore from the nearest septic tank's drainfield, hm?
Fluoridation and chlorination provide significant benefits to public health at near-nil risk. There's a reason why people in areas with fluoridation have better teeth- and it's not phases of the moon. There's also a reason why waterborne disease is nonexistent in areas with chlorinated municipal water supplies.
Chlorination is the gardener's friend. It suppresses pathogens while the water is in the pipes on the way to you and will protect an open tank of nute solution against colonisation by fungi, bacteria etc for a couple of days until the chlorine evaporates. After that, you need to apply an anti-pathogen agent like H2O2 periodically or your nutrient soup is fair game for any passing microbe which finds it tasty.
Some have argued that chlorination kills beneficial microbes in soil. Bullshit.
Here's my 12 ft tall cherry tomato plant, grown organically in soil & compost- and a nearly straight diet of chlorinated water from the garden hose. It does not look very dead.
From a human health perspective, I'd far and away prefer municipal water. Down at the water treatment plant, there's some very well-educated people monitoring water quality 24/7/365. Most water utils publish periodic water testing results openly and transparently.
Unless you're a sucker for conspiracy theories, that ought to be enough to make you fairly confident about municipal water, certainly much more so than about water of completely unknown composition from a hole in your yard- and just how far is that bore from the nearest septic tank's drainfield, hm?
Mr Green Man
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Well it goes down over 200Feet.
And as for town water, it's okay here but in two of the major citys in my country the water is unsafe to drink even when boiled. a lot of people get very sick from drinking it.
Any way, That not my piont, i'm not buying into water pseudoscience and quackery
. The town water is crap, it will break you kettle, washing machean and hot water tank and tastes like crap.
On the other hand my well water, is clean, safe and doesn't get cut off every month for "rapairs to the system".
And as for town water, it's okay here but in two of the major citys in my country the water is unsafe to drink even when boiled. a lot of people get very sick from drinking it.
Any way, That not my piont, i'm not buying into water pseudoscience and quackery
. The town water is crap, it will break you kettle, washing machean and hot water tank and tastes like crap.
On the other hand my well water, is clean, safe and doesn't get cut off every month for "rapairs to the system".
