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ThE sAtIvA hIgH

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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at last fddd2blk someone who can see this bullshit for what it is , i dont mean to act hostile, i just cant stand it when people say they can do something i cant cause they merely state they believe in a GOD , who cares what a person believes, if its ok for a muslim woman to cover her head completely with some sort of head scarf ,then it HAS TO BE OK, for a non muslim to do so aswell .btw im not picking on muslims im just using it as an example



and omg fdd2blk i cant believe your still here dude lol respect mate, you have kept this forum going , ive drifted in n out but kept my garden going if you know what i mean .........much respect dude .
 
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fdd2blk

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ThE sAtIvA hIgH said:
at last fddd2blk someone who can see this bullshit for what it is , i dont mean to act hostile, i just cant stand it when people say they can do something i cant cause they merely state they believe in a GOD , who cares what a person believes if its ok for a muslim woman to cover her head completely with some sort of head scarf then it HAS TO BE OK for a non muslim to do so aswell .btw im not picking on muslims im just using it as an example



and omg fdd2blk i cant believe your still here dude lol respect mate, you have kept this forum going , ive drifted in n out but kept my garden going if you know what i mean .........much respect dude .
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it isn't you being hostile. ;)
 
doobered

doobered

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gopherbuddah said:
You are retard! You want some information to back it up? Here you go. Did anyone tell you not to wear a hat because you don't believe in a god? Are you the only person on your job that's been told not to wear a hat? Did anyone say that only people of a certain race or religon couldn't wear hats. No retard because that would be against the law. I promise you that at no point did management consider religon when the no hat policy was put into place. Tell you what you should do to get an answer as to the legality of said policy. Call an attorney, tell him your "discrimination" claim and if they can stop laughing long enough they'll tell you that policy is policy. You are the only person on this planet that'll think this is religiously motivated. Try and start a patition and see how many co-workers will be willing to fight with you to end the descrimination. McDonalds will let you wear a hat. Now either except the fact you can no longer wear a hat at work or get another job. Damn.
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^^^^what a tard...a freaking huge one!
did they give you a reason for the no hat policy?
like maybe it being a safety issue?

if so then he has to fallow the same policies as you and everyone else

you could also get a doctors note to possibly wear a hat
see your regular dr and tell him that you feel social anxiety at work because you feel that everyone is staring at you hair problem
and that you cant keep meds down long enough for them to help you

maybe he can write a recommendation for wearing a hat
or lead you in the right direction for help

just a thought
 
gopherbuddah

gopherbuddah

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What has brought about my hostilty is the argument this guy chose to use. None of my employees are allowed to wear hats as a dress code not their religious beliefs. It's the same in this case. Some religions do use headwear as part of traditional garb yes, but do you really think that every member of that religion follws that. Come on man. Bottom line is this. At no time did anyone tell this kid that because he doesn't worship any god he can't wear a hat. If the Rasta plead his case and they now allow him headwear, then good for him for standing up for his freedom of religious expression. If you think it'll help to present a case that atheism requires a baseball cap, then take that route. Nobody ever said to this guy that not believing in a god means you can't wear a hat. He, like everyone he works with, can no longer wear hat's at work. That simple. This is not a one man witch hunt to single out athiests, it covered everyone.
 
ThE sAtIvA hIgH

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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fdd2blk said:
i think it falls under "reverse discrimination". what if they said "everyone but jewish people could wear headwear"? they are using religion as a reason. because you lack religion you are lacking certain rights. rights given to those who follow a specific religion. which is even more discriminating.

i could be wrong.

yeah problem is to call a lawyer in England will cost you like 3 weeks wages before they even pick up the phone , ya know im just a normal guy who wants to wear head ware for work , if they said sorry, we consider head ware to be a danger to other workers so EVERYONE has to stick to the rule or something then id bite the bullet and wear my hair lol but to turn around and personaly take me into the office and say i cant wear head ware cause i dont believe in a religion that forbids showing hair , its total nonsense , for me its one rule for everyone or no rule atall ,
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fdd2blk

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gopherbuddah said:
What has brought about my hostilty is the argument this guy chose to use. None of my employees are allowed to wear hats as a dress code not their religious beliefs. It's the same in this case. Some religions do use headwear as part of traditional garb yes, but do you really think that every member of that religion follws that. Come on man. Bottom line is this. At no time did anyone tell this kid that because he doesn't worship any god he can't wear a hat. If the Rasta plead his case and they now allow him headwear, then good for him for standing up for his freedom of religious expression. If you think it'll help to present a case that atheism requires a baseball cap, then take that route. Nobody ever said to this guy that not believing in a god means you can't wear a hat. He, like everyone he works with, can no longer wear hat's at work. That simple. This is not a one man witch hunt to single out athiests, it covered everyone.
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everyone EXCEPT the religious dude. ;)
 
doobered

doobered

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the easiest thing for you to do it maybe flow with my idea as its a medical thing just like a script for 420meds
 
ThE sAtIvA hIgH

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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gopherbuddah said:
What has brought about my hostilty is the argument this guy chose to use. None of my employees are allowed to wear hats as a dress code not their religious beliefs. It's the same in this case. Some religions do use headwear as part of traditional garb yes, but do you really think that every member of that religion follws that. Come on man. Bottom line is this. At no time did anyone tell this kid that because he doesn't worship any god he can't wear a hat. If the Rasta plead his case and they now allow him headwear, then good for him for standing up for his freedom of religious expression. If you think it'll help to present a case that atheism requires a baseball cap, then take that route. Nobody ever said to this guy that not believing in a god means you can't wear a hat. He, like everyone he works with, can no longer wear hat's at work. That simple. This is not a one man witch hunt to single out athiests, it covered everyone.
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no mate your totaly disregarding the point here ................i have been told i can not wear head ware coz its of no religious value . my rasta friend ( who is totally sound guy ) ) is allowed to wear head wear on religious grounds , no one has challenged him as they know they would get no where .
there has been no case against rasta friend hes allowed to wear his head wear coz its classed as religious as, rastafariann is classed as a recognised religion .
it DOES NOT COVER EVERYONE as anyone who claims to have a religious reason for wearing a head covering is excused .
you really are missing major points in this argument mate ?........for example .......if company said you can not wear head wear co\z its a safety issue then EVERYONE has to comply , it dosent matter if your buddah christian , muslim , or the great ju ju up the mountain , everyone has to comply .....to say you are excused coz of your religious beliefs totaly destroys any credability your ruling had in the first place ...........can we agree on that ?
 
ThE sAtIvA hIgH

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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rasheed is excused from taking the urine test coz his god says hes not allowed to piis in a bottle on a thursaday ...........your thinking is obsurd dude
 
gopherbuddah

gopherbuddah

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Okay I agree if they said no hats for safety reasons than yes that should cover everyone. You're argument has seemed to be that because you choose no religion you can't wear a hat. So...did they say no hats for safety reasons? If not you don't have a leg to stand on
 
ThE sAtIvA hIgH

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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like i said, they said you have to remove your hat , i asked why, and they said its company policy , i said ok ill remove hat when rasta guy does , they said rasta guy is ok coz of religious grounds , i said but i dont believe in religion , they said well we have to send you home then , i said ok see you on monday then
 
doobered

doobered

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or ignore me thats cool


is there a labor board for your country
in the US we can go to them and they will start a civil suit against the company you work for because its not a safety issue or else he would have to fallow it
if its a company policy and you sign your sig so then you are SOL
 
ThE sAtIvA hIgH

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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gopherbuddah said:
Okay I agree if they said no hats for safety reasons than yes that should cover everyone. You're argument has seemed to be that because you choose no religion you can't wear a hat. So...did they say no hats for safety reasons? If not you don't have a leg to stand on
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they said i can not wear a baseball cap coz it does not hold any religious belief
 
ShadyStoner

ShadyStoner

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In my opinion it's not worth the fight...

You may win and get to wear your hate but pissing off upper management and drawing attention to yourself and others around you is a good way to get canned.
When you start showing up on the radar you will get called out every time you do something they dislike.

Pick your battles my friend no hat is worth loosing a job.
 
plantvision

plantvision

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Look at the energy you have burned on this ordeal, negative energy that has been running through you and making you more and more upset.

I do agree with you that it is not right, but one must understand that life is not always going to be fair.

Just let it go, maybe this is the kick that you have been looking for, to find a better job.

Too many people fight against the progression of life, because it is not how they think it should be.

I try to flow with it not fight against it. Believe me for years I fought against it, always picking battles that I thought needed to be fought.

In the last 3 years I started just going with things and life has got alot better, not to say I have not f&^ked up since then, but I try to keep it at a minimum.

It is as easy as they say, just let shit like that slide right on by, and enjoy the good stuff.

Best of luck
plantvision
 
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fdd2blk

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ShadyStoner said:
In my opinion it's not worth the fight...

You may win and get to wear your hate but pissing off upper management and drawing attention to yourself and others around you is a good way to get canned.
When you start showing up on the radar you will get called out every time you do something they dislike.

Pick your battles my friend no hat is worth loosing a job.
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"follow the herd."

hmmmm ...


:eyesmoke:
 
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