I have what I am pretty sure is a hermaphrodite. I noticed the male flowers early but then when female flowers began to grow, I just thought I was crazy. I let the plant progress and it now has all kinds of white hairs. The plant came from a seed I found in a sac of some real dank purple. A week ago I noticed some male flowers that had opened. Although it appeared that no pollen was released, I do not even know if that is possible. I do however, when looking in a softer lighting, notice little brown or purple spots in the lower buds. Could these little brown spots be seedlings or is that purple that I am seeing that has not yet matured? I have never seen a purple plant or a seeded plant mature so I do not know which it is. The higher buds seem to have no sign of purpling and they are a bit fuller than those below. Would I be able to see the seeds if it was fertalized or would it be hidden inside the calyx? I hope this is just purple and that those flowers were sterile, but what are the chances of that? Has anyone ever had a hermy produce sterile flowers? There were not many male flowers and they did not grow any larger than the one bannana bloom. I cut all of the male flowers I noticed off, should I worry about them growing back or can it be assumed that only female flowers will grow from here on?
Hermaphrodite, possible seeds
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purplecstasy
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If you're not afraid to be rough on your flowers, one way that worked for me to check for seeds possibly developing was squeezing any suspicious more ball shaped calyxes. Maybe it takes a day or too for the calyx to be obviously a developing seed, but if you have any suspicion just squeeze the calyx and feel for anything hard or pasty inside. Sometimes the calyx pops and you see water and a white embryo type thing.
If its not all over the plant like you describe, then the rest turns out ok. Just keep an eye out to see whether your whole crop was pollinated. And watch out of for more male flowers obviously. If a part of the plant was pollinated it was probably in a one day span, so you see in about three days from the male flower opening which of the females got fucked. I stress you pull out developing seeds and spot out male flowers early. Maybe someone else will post a good way to catch the hidden male flowers.
If its not all over the plant like you describe, then the rest turns out ok. Just keep an eye out to see whether your whole crop was pollinated. And watch out of for more male flowers obviously. If a part of the plant was pollinated it was probably in a one day span, so you see in about three days from the male flower opening which of the females got fucked. I stress you pull out developing seeds and spot out male flowers early. Maybe someone else will post a good way to catch the hidden male flowers.
What exactly is the process that a female flower endures after it is pollenated? Will it react to the pollen or simply go on producing a seed where the calyx is and show no changes? My true thought is that the things I am seeing look like they could be seeds, but they are openly visible, not covered by a calyx skin. So this leads me to think that it could just be the coloration of future purple that I am seeing. I guess its just me trying to be hopeful, but I also did not observe any pollen, even on the flowers I physically opened myself (upon removing them). Has anyone grown purple that can give insight on its maturation? My plant is currently green, but the bud it came from was as purple as princes crushed velvet. When/if this turns purple will it be noticable before it is purple? How does the color transfer/change process work?
purplecstasy
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I dont know about that strain but nonetheless, I hope for you that when you feel the buds you dont feel any hard material. The callyx has pistils and when they'er polinated they kind of form into 1 pistil and get retracted into the callyx as the callyx becomes a seed.
madcow
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um ya no don't kill it, it will still produce good busz just keep an eye on it pull any male parts off,pull any developing seeds off.I've got killer from a hermie before!!
Guitarantula
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Then how do they get feminized seeds? I thought they stressed a female until it was a hermie, but you are saying hermes only produce hermies?
Im waiting it out for sure. This funk is very fruity and sweet smelling. I was pretty sure that what purplexctacy said was exactly what happens. The pistols retreat into the calyx where they produce a seed. So being that my calyxs are still very white, bold, and unretracted, would that lead anyone else to agree that this may still be unpollenated?
DOT5262
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im not an expert on the subject.. but keeping it in a regular grow room would be to much risk for me... as far as i know seeds are useless till someone tells me otherwise... even if "someone" could make feminized seeds from a hermie i cant imagine its that easy.. so as far as im concerned heries are useless under normal circumstanc'es .... if you have alot of extra space or breeding experience then go for it...
purplecstasy
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Dont worry shocka if a good amount of the plant still has large pistils sticking out and at worst shriveling (which isn't a bad thing they're just maturing). Im assumng the pollenation was in an isolated area of the plant, but dont stress it any more cause male flowers could appear on the buds, the yellow spike thingies. Just check out your plant whenever you can, if the seeds were sporatically developing through the plant then your more in trouble, but as long as you have some unpollinated calxyes and its a potent strain whatever of your harvest that isnt seed is still great smoke! Just pluck anything that doesn't look like female flowers on the plant! (not the leaves of course
)I did that about a week ago (plucked the male flowers). I have not been too worried and have not stressed the plant, other than removing a few lower fans and the males. I will post of any changes, but lets keep our fingers crossed.
On a different subject of the same plant, I was hoping to get a few opinions. I am under the school of thought that it is alright to remove some of the fan leaves, but that they are vital for the production of good nug. Each fan leaf has a coresponding branch that will produce nug. My wonder is if I remove a fan leaf, an energy factory if you will, from a lower node, will that particular nug suffer or will the fan leaves that continue to exist make up for the energy needed to sustain that branch? To give a better picture of my question say you have two branches at exactly the same height (opposite nodes) if you remove the fan leaf from one side and leave the other, with the bud sites being at the same distance from the light, will the one without the fan leaf suffer more than the one with, or will they produce near the same nug due to the overall energy production?
On a different subject of the same plant, I was hoping to get a few opinions. I am under the school of thought that it is alright to remove some of the fan leaves, but that they are vital for the production of good nug. Each fan leaf has a coresponding branch that will produce nug. My wonder is if I remove a fan leaf, an energy factory if you will, from a lower node, will that particular nug suffer or will the fan leaves that continue to exist make up for the energy needed to sustain that branch? To give a better picture of my question say you have two branches at exactly the same height (opposite nodes) if you remove the fan leaf from one side and leave the other, with the bud sites being at the same distance from the light, will the one without the fan leaf suffer more than the one with, or will they produce near the same nug due to the overall energy production?
purplecstasy
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I don't have a lot of experience but I don't pull fan leaves off untill they are obviously dead and dont resist when I pull on them. My logic behind it is that if its still struggling to stay on the plant when you try to snap it off it still has a purpose for it.
HarvestFest2010
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but what if the the juice that makes it stay partialy alive takes from the juice that goes to the buds? And the juice is tha juice.