HLG vs HGL Side By Side Take 2

Who do you think will win?

  • HLG

    Votes: 63 85.1%
  • HGL

    Votes: 11 14.9%

  • Total voters
    74
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hybridway2

Amare Shill
Does HLG have the same outlandish claims as HGL?
IDK, ive seen phrases like "expect 2/gpw"
Most efficient, best, but nothing like HGL claims. Haven't seen those types of claims from anyone.
But so far they're living up to them in veg.
I dont need a side by side to tell you that the differences you're seeing are basically normal white led growth in my garden as it was & also why i dont really veg with plain white in the higher intensity range.
Usually am vegging with Amare (allot more colors), Burple HH before it broke, MH & my Horizons in 58k low intensity T-5 replacements.
This HGL growth using half the umol/j is crazy. Call it what you want man, n i understand where you're coming from, i do. But for those that say this side by side shows nothing, i say to you: Thats the most Foolish thing Ive Heard Here in years. N that's saying allot.
Ill do another using a few planys for each side seeing how i have more HLG Gear (that does work great- Dont get it twisted) and hopefully the new XB Boards will be available to me by next run.
Getting less nervous about the way these HGL's are going to flower. If a plant grows this fast, healthy, strong n thick under 1.5 umol/j light using 150- now 300w, then it must do just as well in flower. Unless of course it makes funky, fluffy flowers or they never even form like some burples. But If so then GoodGoshDamn! That shows there's more to life then phosphor coated, high priced. Fancy Diodes.
To me, coming into this, if hgl even came close to matching hlg then id say they deserve mad credit & is worth investigating spd more.
Anything more then even is just bonkers to us because of the brainwashings weve had about burple. Guess what tho, not all burple is the same apparantly. The comp companies in burple are winging it on spectrum as are the white companies TBDH. Only white company that i feel has work into their spectrum is Amare. And even at that, they win in studies, beat FLUENCE & every Bar light available in grows by large Cultivators. But they cannot or will not share the science end of it publicly. They have results out the ying-yang, use more red then any other white company by allot. Have recently made spd changes & options. So, im a lil confused at the moment because Amare is a white based product. Still gonna peak in 450, like the rest & im just not so sure about the whole purple stem thing. Ive seen tons of great plants under them & especially this new Canna-Spec, but there's always the occasional plant that just refuses the spectrum..
Cammi (HGL) Says "oh white is white" led white is the same as hps white, is the same as t-5, MH, ect....That's wrong! That is totally not true. That's like me saying all burple or RGB / RB , is the same. We see here its not. And if i have to get an @Unit Farm System Supply to see if that is true or not then so be it. @HortiBloom too, if you think there's something specifically special about your burple, lets see it by all means? Any other Burple sponsors im missing? Would love to try Platinum against these 84x's. Now i see why she originally listed companies we all thought were crap burple. They are prob too. Because we all know Unit Farm uses what we believe are higher quality parts then hgl. HLG uses the highest quality n so does Amare.
So, i will put HLG, AMARE, Another BURPLE (Sponsors are open to Showcase) & HGL all up against each other in one big Dual Strain Crop to see.
A from new clone getting they're perspective light only one out the cloner.
You guys act like im not trying here.
And of course, see something you dont like n shit on the whole parade.
Forget that the HLG plant even had gnats or even exists for just one second...
Now, look at the HGL plant in comparison to all the rest of my plants n tell me its just not Amazing???
I want to know the whole Fxckin Truth more then any of you. So :P & to the Hybridway haters :finger:.
 
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boilingoil

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If both plants where healthy under prior light source and that was the single variable - then yes, the light is the issue.
Can you sum up in a nutshell what your recommendations would be for those looking to make the switch from hps to led?
That would depend on the cultivar they wish to grow and what medium they are growing in.
No one size fits all in the grow room. Hell, I have sister plants that both require a different nutrient profile.
 

hybridway2

Amare Shill
Inventronics drivers have a full load efficiency of 91%
Exaxtly, but their not MW. (OOHHH) What a sin. There's a absolutely nothing wrong with the other 30+ brands of good drivers out there. Haha! Probably all produced by the same "cheap" Driver manufacturer In China, HongKong, Japan or Whateversville. Thats why i say you dont understand shit when it comes to business. I owed mine firc14 yrs. So i have a clue. Not expecting u too but do try common sense.
Im a shill hu? Ok you EDITTED: MY Bad Semithus, @Ryante55 u go stay on the Troll thread from now on. Seriously. Thank you!
 
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Ryante55

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Exaxtly, but their not MW. (OOHHH) What a sin. There's a absolutely nothing wrong with the other 30+ brands of good drivers out there. Haha! Probably all produced by the same "cheap" Driver manufacturer In China, HongKong, Japan or Whateversville. Thats why i say you dont understand shit when it comes to business. I owed mine firc14 yrs. So i have a clue. Not expecting u too but do try common sense.
Im a shill hu? Ok you Semithus, u go stay on the Troll thread. Thank you!
What's the brand and effeciency of her driver's? Is this different than the troll thread? I haven't seen much growing going on. It's funny how hgl had all these rules you had to follow for the side by side now it's a completely different side by side. I get your testing spectrum but you were given the lights for free to do a fixture side by side right? Once you got the free lights you completely changed what was supposed to happen now it's a spectrum test so at the end of it no one will have any idea how these fixtures perform. If hgl was true to her word she would make you send the fixure back for not following the rules but now that you have praised her lights so much she doesn't care about the "rules" of the side by side.
 

Ryante55

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I don't think it is, just saying if the link and the 'made by' weren't there that would be dismissed as a complete steaming pile of shit.
Book, Cover, type stuff.
Yeah I get that but no one has said what driver hgl uses a couple people defending her but apparently they dont know what driver she uses. If she's using a quality driver cool just say what driver it is and that will shut everyone up. It's pretty reasonable to think she's using low quality drivers growmau5 hacked one of her fixtures you don't see a brand on the driver's but the don't look very good I would prefer a sealed driver. Here's the vid.
 

hybridway2

Amare Shill
I'm real busy so here's the pics. Last shot probably before getting into main room & under only these lights w/ a divider.
All i can do is record data. If there's shit talking pls take it to the Troll thread or i won't be saying pls anymore or thank you....20190627_204457.jpg 20190627_204649.jpg 20190627_204748.jpgW/ Led glasses 20190627_204812.jpg 20190627_205050.jpg 20190627_205100.jpg 20190627_205217.jpg 20190627_205311.jpg 20190627_205408.jpg 20190627_205519.jpg
 

OneHitDone

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What's the brand and effeciency of her driver's? Is this different than the troll thread? I haven't seen much growing going on. It's funny how hgl had all these rules you had to follow for the side by side now it's a completely different side by side. I get your testing spectrum but you were given the lights for free to do a fixture side by side right? Once you got the free lights you completely changed what was supposed to happen now it's a spectrum test so at the end of it no one will have any idea how these fixtures perform. If hgl was true to her word she would make you send the fixure back for not following the rules but now that you have praised her lights so much she doesn't care about the "rules" of the side by side.
It's clear your a fuking moron. All the driver shit has been beat to death - it's a "proprietary" spec made in china driver with .91 or whatever efficiency.
Who gives a rats ass? As long as it don't short out and throw flames the fixture is clearly performing.
Why don't you just sit your happy fanboy troll ass down and listen to the person who is actually using them along side every other light on the market that makes you loose your shit.
What is the grower saying about the tool? Open your fucking eyes for fucks sake :wall:
 

hybridway2

Amare Shill
Yeah, uuummhh, uu , mn . Hu!
Gotta be the gnats that were gone n came back twice but are once again gone. Or, its all the blue in the white?
Or a lil of both.
But one thing is fir sure, a, well, you know. 20190627_210759.jpg
 

Big Perm

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It's clear your a fuking moron. All the driver shit has been beat to death - it's a "proprietary" spec made in china driver with .91 or whatever efficiency.
Who gives a rats ass? As long as it don't short out and throw flames the fixture is clearly performing.
Why don't you just sit your happy fanboy troll ass down and listen to the person who is actually using them along side every other light on the market that makes you loose your shit.
What is the grower saying about the tool? Open your fucking eyes for fucks sake :wall:
Dude. I know you mean well, but you can't talk like that and keep any respect at the same time.
I realize the 'kids' comment was a shot at a joke, but you can't cross the line with the personal stuff. It's an instant shut down.
 

Big Perm

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I'm real busy so here's the pics. Last shot probably before getting into main room & under only these lights w/ a divider.
All i can do is record data. If there's shit talking pls take it to the Troll thread or i won't be saying pls anymore or thank you....View attachment 4356658 View attachment 4356659 View attachment 4356660W/ Led glasses View attachment 4356661 View attachment 4356662 View attachment 4356663 View attachment 4356664 View attachment 4356665 View attachment 4356666 View attachment 4356668
Serious question here.
Why don't you put those lights closer? All of them?
You can run all 4 of those 84x at like 8" on that single plant and it would blow up.
Same with the trinity.
 

Ryante55

Well-Known Member
Serious question here.
Why don't you put those lights closer? All of them?
You can run all 4 of those 84x at like 8" on that single plant and it would blow up.
Same with the trinity.
He doesn't have the skill to do that he will start to get "burning" and "led defeciency"

Edit: btw big perm your grow is looking awesome
 

Big Perm

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I'm also running an iL8 6" @ 661w, week 5 bloom with no intensity issues that I can see. I fuckin burnt them, but that's my fault.
Edit: Week 6 bloom
 
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