*Holy Shit!: RUSSIA VOWS SHIELD RESPONSE BEYOND DIPLOMACY

Big P

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RUSSIA VOWS SHIELD RESPONSE BEYOND DIPLOMACY
Aug 20 01:42 PM US/Eastern
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Poland Signs U.S. Missile Shield Deal


MOSCOW (AP) - Russia says its response to the further development of a U.S. missile shield in Poland will go beyond diplomacy.
Russia's Foreign Ministry issued a statement saying the U.S. missile shield plans are clearly aimed at weakening Russia.

The U.S. says the missile defense system is aimed at protecting the U.S. and Europe from future attacks from states like Iran.
The United States and Poland signed a deal Wednesday to place a U.S. missile defense base just 115 miles from Russia's westernmost fringe.
THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

WARSAW, Poland (AP)—Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and her Polish counterpart signed a deal Wednesday to build a U.S. missile defense base in Poland, an agreement that prompted an infuriated Russia to warn of a possible attack against the former Soviet satellite.

Rice dismissed blustery comments from Russian leaders who say Warsaw's hosting of 10 U.S. interceptor missiles just 115 miles from Russia's westernmost frontier opens the country up to attack.

Such comments "border on the bizarre frankly," Rice said, speaking to reporters traveling with her in Warsaw.

"When you threaten Poland, you perhaps forget that it is not 1988," Rice said. "It's 2008 and the United States has a ... firm treaty guarantee to defend Poland's territory as if it was the territory of the United States. So it's probably not wise to throw these threats around."
The deal, which Washington sought as a way of defending the U.S. and Europe from a hypothetical threat of long-distance missiles from Iran, has strained relations between Moscow and the West. Those ties were already troubled by Russia's invasion of its former Soviet neighbor, U.S. ally Georgia, earlier this month.

Speaking to reporters traveling with her, Rice said, "the Russians are losing their credibility."

Rice and Polish Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski signed the deal Wednesday morning.

"It is an agreement which will help us to respond to the threats of the 21st century," she said afterward.
Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk said the agreement came after tough but friendly negotiations.

"We have achieved our main goals, which means that our country and the United States will be more secure," he said.
After Warsaw and Washington announced the agreement on the deal last week, top Russian Gen. Anatoly Nogovitsyn warned that Poland is risking attack, and possibly a nuclear one, by deploying the American missile defense system, Russia's Interfax news agency reported.
Poles have been shaken by the threats, but NATO Secretary General Jaap de Hoop dismissed them Tuesday as "pathetic rhetoric."
"It is unhelpful and it leads nowhere," he told reporters at a NATO meeting

in Brussels, Belgium.
Many Poles consider the agreement a form of protection at a time when Russia's invasion of Georgia has generated alarm throughout Eastern Europe. Poland is a member of the European Union and NATO, and the deal is expected to deepen its military partnership with Washington.
Polish President Lech Kaczynski also expressed "great satisfaction" at the outcome of the long months of negotiations.
Poland and the United States spent a year and a half negotiating, and talks recently had snagged on Poland's demands that the U.S. bolster Polish security with Patriot missiles in exchange for hosting the missile defense base.

Washington agreed to do so last week, as Poland invoked the Georgia conflict to strengthen its case.
The Patriots are meant to protect Poland from short-range missiles from neighbors—such as Russia.

The U.S. already has reached an agreement with the government in Prague to place the second component of the missile defense shield—a radar tracking system—in the Czech Republic, Poland's southwestern neighbor and another formerly communist country. Approval is still needed the Czech and Polish parliaments. No date has been set for the Polish parliament to consider the agreement, but it should face no difficulties in Warsaw, where it enjoys the support of the largest opposition party as well as the government.
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ccodiane

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We don't push, we pull. If you ask for a hand, and you've shown a commitment to your own freedom, we should give it; a pull out of the quicksand of socialism.
 

KillerWeed420

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Its on foreign soil so its non of Russia's business. Of course thats what Castro said about the cuban missle crisis.lol We'll all be dead by morning.
 

mardavarot

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as you say( Its on foreign soil so its non of Russia's business) So you do give shit on polish citizen? If Russia put Warsaw on nuclear target fist priority it still not US, yes? But don't worry we have long hand and our missiles any way rich US, I don't think so you have for 5000 warheads 5000 interceptor rockets :) Do not be idiots , you will start we will finish this
 

mardavarot

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to ccodiane
What freedom you ZOOman, you leave in ZOO the name is US.(We'll stand you down, again.) first off all you have to kiss your ass if you can. In this war no winners, we know that, but you still believe you can win. No chance
 

ViRedd

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to ccodiane
What freedom you ZOOman, you leave in ZOO the name is US.(We'll stand you down, again.) first off all you have to kiss your ass if you can. In this war no winners, we know that, but you still believe you can win. No chance
Just to clarify my thinking ... what "war" are you talking about?

Vi
 

OnSolomonsGrave

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He is Russian stoney, he is alluding to the fact that they won the stare down with the cold war and they will do it again. Come on people...

Edit: I love you stoney not being rude ;)
 

wackymack

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i do not agree with this statement....WARSAW, Poland (AP)—Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and her Polish counterpart signed a deal Wednesday to build a U.S. missile defense base in Poland, an agreement that prompted an infuriated Russia to warn of a possible attack against the former Soviet satellite.


by doing this,it is only making the us more domineering and controlling.

for everyones info...there are predictions stating that there could be a nuclear war in the 08-09 era

just a tidbit for everyone
 

Stoney McFried

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I know you're not...don't worry. Thanks for clarifying.War is sometimes necessary, but its also sad.
He is Russian stoney, he is alluding to the fact that they won the stare down with the cold war and they will do it again. Come on people...

Edit: I love you stoney not being rude ;)
 

jerseystoner

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im actually a polish citizen form the bialystok region (im currently living in the U.S., double citizenship)
what russias attack on georgia and blatant threats against poland show is that the cold war is far form over and that the ussr has yet to fall, all the former soviet bloc countries are still in one way or another dependent on russia and russia is trying in anyw ay possible to keep its spheres of infuence intact
poland adoipted the missle shield program for two reasons, first of all to aid america, whcih is a long time ally and a western country which poland strives to be liek in terms of the econonomy and democracy, second of all to really piss off russia, to show that they wont be contorlling us like they were for the last 60 years, its really a jump for the west done by poland
part of the deal is that the missle defense shield will also defend poland, and that in the event of a russian attack, america and its nato coutnerparts will defend poland and ensure its sovergnity

what alot of americans dont realize is that the russian government, esp former kgb agents (vladmir putin was a general in the kgb) fix elections in eastern european countries so that a pro-russian president can be elected, yea no shit here, these guys are fuckin crazy
 

Twistyman

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The grim thing is..that because of that damn Irag war the US couldn't take on any power, never mind a super one... plus Russia & China could take out the US either alone or together... The US Gov. has spent too much time with their noses in everyone else's business and not enough tending to their own... I predict a sad day coming soon.........
The proceeding was a paid political opinion.............
 

Stoney McFried

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I know.I don't want to eat garbage and crap in the woods while staggering around in radioactive rags.Once we get nuked, a good dose of radiation might make the weed try to smoke us.:cry:
The grim thing is..that because of that damn Irag war the US couldn't take on any power, never mind a super one... plus Russia & China could take out the US either alone or together... The US Gov. has spent too much time with their noses in everyone else's business and not enough tending to their own... I predict a sad day coming soon.........
The proceeding was a paid political opinion.............
 

ccodiane

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i do not agree with this statement....WARSAW, Poland (AP)—Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and her Polish counterpart signed a deal Wednesday to build a U.S. missile defense base in Poland, an agreement that prompted an infuriated Russia to warn of a possible attack against the former Soviet satellite.


by doing this,it is only making the us more domineering and controlling.

for everyones info...there are predictions stating that there could be a nuclear war in the 08-09 era

just a tidbit for everyone
Poland has a right to act with impunity in regard to their sovereignty. They know what happens when you border a country controlled by a maniacal regime and you sit, waiting, without proper defensive capabilities. Ask any Russian "neighbor". Ask Tibet, Taiwan. Ask Canada, Mexico. Ask 'em. They'll tell you.
 
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