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ClaytonBigsby

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  • Do you believe homosexuality is genetic?


    • Yes, biology plays a part.


      47%
    • No, it's a choice and not science.


      53%

    Thank you for voting.


    That poll was on Yahoo's front page. I cannot believe so many people STILL think like this. Sure, many make the choice to try it, but I think for the vast majority, homosexuals are born that way, yes?










 

Padawanbater2

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http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2012-12/nifm-sfe120612.php

Study finds epigenetics, not genetics, underlies homosexuality

KNOXVILLE – Epigenetics – how gene expression is regulated by temporary switches, called epi-marks – appears to be a critical and overlooked factor contributing to the long-standing puzzle of why homosexuality occurs.


According to the study, published online today in The Quarterly Review of Biology, sex-specific epi-marks, which normally do not pass between generations and are thus "erased," can lead to homosexuality when they escape erasure and are transmitted from father to daughter or mother to son.


From an evolutionary standpoint, homosexuality is a trait that would not be expected to develop and persist in the face of Darwinian natural selection. Homosexuality is nevertheless common for men and women in most cultures. Previous studies have shown that homosexuality runs in families, leading most researchers to presume a genetic underpinning of sexual preference. However, no major gene for homosexuality has been found despite numerous studies searching for a genetic connection.


In the current study, researchers from the Working Group on Intragenomic Conflict at the National Institute for Mathematical and Biological Synthesis (NIMBioS) integrated evolutionary theory with recent advances in the molecular regulation of gene expression and androgen-dependent sexual development to produce a biological and mathematical model that delineates the role of epigenetics in homosexuality.


Epi-marks constitute an extra layer of information attached to our genes' backbones that regulates their expression. While genes hold the instructions, epi-marks direct how those instructions are carried out – when, where and how much a gene is expressed during development. Epi-marks are usually produced anew each generation, but recent evidence demonstrates that they sometimes carryover between generations and thus can contribute to similarity among relatives, resembling the effect of shared genes.


Sex-specific epi-marks produced in early fetal development protect each sex from the substantial natural variation in testosterone that occurs during later fetal development. Sex-specific epi-marks stop girl fetuses from being masculinized when they experience atypically high testosterone, and vice versa for boy fetuses. Different epi-marks protect different sex-specific traits from being masculinized or feminized – some affect the genitals, others sexual identity, and yet others affect sexual partner preference. However, when these epi-marks are transmitted across generations from fathers to daughters or mothers to sons, they may cause reversed effects, such as the feminization of some traits in sons, such as sexual preference, and similarly a partial masculinization of daughters.


The study solves the evolutionary riddle of homosexuality, finding that "sexually antagonistic" epi-marks, which normally protect parents from natural variation in sex hormone levels during fetal development, sometimes carryover across generations and cause homosexuality in opposite-sex offspring. The mathematical modeling demonstrates that genes coding for these epi-marks can easily spread in the population because they always increase the fitness of the parent but only rarely escape erasure and reduce fitness in offspring.


"Transmission of sexually antagonistic epi-marks between generations is the most plausible evolutionary mechanism of the phenomenon of human homosexuality," said the study's co-author Sergey Gavrilets, NIMBioS' associate director for scientific activities and a professor at the University of Tennessee-Knoxville.
 

racerboy71

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i couldn't give a rat's ass if it's genetic or choice.. why on earth would i?? you know how much time i spend a day concerning myself with homosexual thoughts?? absolutely zero..
idk why all of these people gaf why gays are gay, unless of course they're thinking of becoming gay themselves..

to sum it up.. who cares why someone is gay?? not i said the fly.. not me said the bee..
 

Hepheastus420

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it's not offensive to say it's a choice just like it's not offensive to say they were born that way. That would be like saying it's offensive to choose to be straight or you were born straight.. The fuck? It's whatever. I would like to know the answer though so I can spread the truth.
 

CrownMeKing

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lol I do not think it's genetic, we don't have animals that are born gay so why us? Most deffinetly a choice. Maybe something happened when they were younger that made them affiliate the same sex with being sexually arousing or they just wanted to try it and liked it. idk but that's my opinion.
 

Padawanbater2

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lol I do not think it's genetic, we don't have animals that are born gay so why us? Most deffinetly a choice. Maybe something happened when they were younger that made them affiliate the same sex with being sexually arousing or they just wanted to try it and liked it. idk but that's my opinion.
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2012-12/nifm-sfe120612.php

Study finds epigenetics, not genetics, underlies homosexuality

KNOXVILLE – Epigenetics – how gene expression is regulated by temporary switches, called epi-marks – appears to be a critical and overlooked factor contributing to the long-standing puzzle of why homosexuality occurs.


According to the study, published online today in The Quarterly Review of Biology, sex-specific epi-marks, which normally do not pass between generations and are thus "erased," can lead to homosexuality when they escape erasure and are transmitted from father to daughter or mother to son.


From an evolutionary standpoint, homosexuality is a trait that would not be expected to develop and persist in the face of Darwinian natural selection. Homosexuality is nevertheless common for men and women in most cultures. Previous studies have shown that homosexuality runs in families, leading most researchers to presume a genetic underpinning of sexual preference. However, no major gene for homosexuality has been found despite numerous studies searching for a genetic connection.


In the current study, researchers from the Working Group on Intragenomic Conflict at the National Institute for Mathematical and Biological Synthesis (NIMBioS) integrated evolutionary theory with recent advances in the molecular regulation of gene expression and androgen-dependent sexual development to produce a biological and mathematical model that delineates the role of epigenetics in homosexuality.


Epi-marks constitute an extra layer of information attached to our genes' backbones that regulates their expression. While genes hold the instructions, epi-marks direct how those instructions are carried out – when, where and how much a gene is expressed during development. Epi-marks are usually produced anew each generation, but recent evidence demonstrates that they sometimes carryover between generations and thus can contribute to similarity among relatives, resembling the effect of shared genes.


Sex-specific epi-marks produced in early fetal development protect each sex from the substantial natural variation in testosterone that occurs during later fetal development. Sex-specific epi-marks stop girl fetuses from being masculinized when they experience atypically high testosterone, and vice versa for boy fetuses. Different epi-marks protect different sex-specific traits from being masculinized or feminized – some affect the genitals, others sexual identity, and yet others affect sexual partner preference. However, when these epi-marks are transmitted across generations from fathers to daughters or mothers to sons, they may cause reversed effects, such as the feminization of some traits in sons, such as sexual preference, and similarly a partial masculinization of daughters.


The study solves the evolutionary riddle of homosexuality, finding that "sexually antagonistic" epi-marks, which normally protect parents from natural variation in sex hormone levels during fetal development, sometimes carryover across generations and cause homosexuality in opposite-sex offspring. The mathematical modeling demonstrates that genes coding for these epi-marks can easily spread in the population because they always increase the fitness of the parent but only rarely escape erasure and reduce fitness in offspring.


"Transmission of sexually antagonistic epi-marks between generations is the most plausible evolutionary mechanism of the phenomenon of human homosexuality," said the study's co-author Sergey Gavrilets, NIMBioS' associate director for scientific activities and a professor at the University of Tennessee-Knoxville.

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xKuroiTaimax

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Here we go with this thread again.

As a pansexual, this shit flies straight over my head. I can't open or shut the door on someone on the basis of their gender alone but hey *shrugs*
 

UncleBuck

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Pada - I cannot for the life of me read all that right now but I know it's somethin disproving what I said, then again it was just my opinion.



Dude they 'practice' homo sexuality but they end up going back to an opposite sex so I wouldn't count that. There aren't animals that stay with the same sex or only get boned by the same sex,
you seem like an intelligent fellow.
 

Silicity

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either way i would not fuck with alot of gay men, especially in san fransisco, they understand 50% of people are ignorant and stupid, so they beef up and trust me, no man wants to get beat up by a gay man.
 

kinetic

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Were they fighting on a bed too? :shock:
Lol no.
Dude was drunk and went to his ex girlfriends house after leaving the bar. He had been a bother for a bit I guess. Well the new man didn't care for this interuption of their coitus. Came right out the front door and beat my dads friend up in the front lawn of a small downtown community. All the while wearing nothing but socks, this was according to witness that my dad knew and how he found the true story out.
 

Samwell Seed Well

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There aren't animals that stay with the same sex or only get boned by the same sex,

this is only half true, homosexuality in animals is well documented in many mammal species . . . . including lower and higher primates . .. .. and im not sure there arnt species that dont do same sex life friends
 
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