Hormones vs Co2 - Hormones Cheaper Potentially Yeild the Same!

LOL
Ow yer by the way we could probably sell a formulated hormone schedual that works. Or manufacture or own SUPERTHRIVE type thing..... But This is not easy and will probably take yrs to perfect......LOL
Hey it possible...... just not likely ! But what we may do is help ourselves create FREAKS of the bud world......

I recently bought a product called Flower Seed Soak,
It consists of Ethylene acid, Alginic acid and Vitamins.
It claims to Stimulate the seed to encourage a tendancy for the plant to become female.
Directions: Wrap seeds tightly in WHITE tissue paper and fold over 3 or 4 times, wet with Seed Soak
and place in a plastic zip lock bag for no less than 24 hours and no more than 30 hours.
Well I tried this several times but only my freshest seeds remained viable after soaking,
they were a cross of Lowryder 2 and Durban Poison Autoflowering that I bred myself.
The final result?

3 females and 3 males, not so good, so since they are auto's I'm using I can keep experimenting
and I only need to wait 3 weeks for sexing.
I have another 12 soaked seeds popping today so I'm trying again, but this time I'm also using La Femme as well.
If I get 12 females I'll be a happy chappy but we'll see.

-LA FEMME active: NAA (aussie product sold through hydro stores for hemp) , I already have this hormone with first application on today....... Obviosly for inducing female..... See how we go from 5 bag seed... sceptic that i am. Need some good base plants so will grow good out door & indoor mothers and go from there....

heres the quick profile....
1-Naphthaleneacetic Acid (NAA),
The effects of 1-naphthaleneacetic acid (NAA) applied at various levels and times on yield, seed index, protein and oil content and fatty acid compositions of cotton plants seeds were studied. NAA increased the seed yield/plant and the seed, protein, and oil yields/ha compared to the control. A level of 20 ppm proved best for yield. Most NAA treatments significantly increased the seed index, but only slight increases in seed protein content were recorded.

spiked1 said:

I recently bought a product called Flower Seed Soak,
It consists of Ethylene acid, Alginic acid and Vitamins.
It claims to Stimulate the seed to encourage a tendancy for the plant to become female.
Directions: Wrap seeds tightly in WHITE tissue paper and fold over 3 or 4 times, wet with Seed Soak
and place in a plastic zip lock bag for no less than 24 hours and no more than 30 hours.
Well I tried this several times but only my freshest seeds remained viable after soaking,
they were a cross of Lowryder 2 and Durban Poison Autoflowering that I bred myself.
The final result?

3 females and 3 males, not so good, so since they are auto's I'm using I can keep experimenting
and I only need to wait 3 weeks for sexing.
I have another 12 soaked seeds popping today so I'm trying again, but this time I'm also using La Femme as well.
If I get 12 females I'll be a happy chappy but we'll see.

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Ethylene acid, Alginic acid and Vitamins - The ethylene would be good for bud......the alginic is just a seaweed extract or most common found in Brown alge.... But has hormone like properties but you would put it as a vitiman..

Thanx jester..... I look forward to your input!

Jester88 said:

yeah dont worry im subscribed.

umm ill share what knowledge i have in this aspect as it occurs to me k

but i like the post hopefully we can get some good stuff outa this

wish i could do some more practical n show ya the results.. but ive been raided and warned a few times in the last year so my production is minimal sorry.
most of ma input will be from my experience and what my mates are doing at the time when its there.

yes im the only one that got busted lol. i mean what kind dickheads gonna give friends up ya know.

so i should be able ta help in some way once i figur out a plan K

jester88

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Welcome...... toke on this
Excellent. I know you can help....
Ow yer can u find that formula your m8 uses for budding..... And some sorta report on useing it when... and what effects it had...... thanx champ

My interest here is the possibility to make seeds female to save some time, experimentaly anyway,
as that is what some of these products claim to do.
I grew my first plant in 1973 just after I turned 15, but now that I live in a townhouse I'm limited to small closet grows,
so obviously I need to make the most of it, just wish I had more time and space eo experiment along these lines.
Neverless I'm subscribed out bof genuine interest. Keep it up guys, especially my fellow aussie brothers.

i have some GIBBERELLIC ACID (GA3) i will be trying on a outdoor stunted durban poison, i am yet to work out measurments for this stuff but it is 90 % pure.

10% what, do you know ??

UNDER A LINK on MAIN PAGE: REF to GA3

Recipes FOR GA3 - folia spray with penotrator i would suggest or paste
( this is a studied recipe so I figure we should stick to it)

PPM 50 - GA mg 125 Water 2400ml Purpose = early flower
PPM 200 - GA mg 125 Water 600ml Purpose = early flower
PPM 800 - GA mg 125 Water 160ml Purpose = blossom set
PPM 2000 - GA mg 125 Water 60ml Purpose = Seed germ
1%paste - GA mg 125 Water 5ml Purpose = growth promoter

Too much youll turn your girl into boys or hermi`s

Careful shit is nasty
Although GA is not listed as a "poison", the following precautions should be observed: Flush with water any GA that may get into the eye. Avoid skin contact if possible. If skin contact is suspected, wash with soap and water. Do not re-enter an area after spraying until the GA spray is fully dry. Avoid ingestion of GA.
RESULT:
Premature flowering. If a plant is sufficiently developed, premature flowering may be induced by direct application of GA to young plants. This action is not sustained and treatment may have to be repeated. Formation of male flowers is generally promoted by concentrations of 10 to 200 ppm., female flowers by concentrations of 200 to 300 ppm. Concentrations of more than 600 ppm markedly suppresses initiation of both male and female flowers.

Increased growth. GA applied near the terminal bud of trees may increase the rate of growth by stimulating more or less constant growth during the season. In a Department of Agriculture experiment, the GA was applied as a 1% paste in a band around the terminal bud of trees. Treatment was repeated three times during the summer. Walnut tee growth was 8.5 ft. for treated trees, 1.5 ft. for untreated trees

http://www.crfg.org/tidbits/gibberellic.html

another : Fruit trees.....
A spray of GA3 (gibberellic acid) at a concentration of 15–30 ppm at full bloom significantly increased yields (by 50–400%). In young trees (4–5 years old), a narrow (2–3 mm) girdling at the time of sprouting, together with GA3, gave best results.

well this is what im using it for (1%paste - GA mg 125 Water 5ml Purpose = growth promoter)

but measurments ?

thats only a 1% paste at 125mgs, so i should use about 10 mgs ?

auto said:

well this is what im using it for (1%paste - GA mg 125 Water 5ml Purpose = growth promoter)

but measurments ?

thats only a 1% paste at 125mgs, so i should use about 10 mgs ?

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Thats the formula to create 1%paste = 125mg of ga3 powder + 5ml water

So i guess if you wanna scale it down........ youve got some maths/ and I dont think it would viable - making a paste is what it is..... PPM is easier to fuck with.

yeah fuk with my head, haha

Your going to need MICRO digi scales - Dealer scales - good one

so in a litre of water how much do i need ?

You wouldnt if you were doing paste... which now I think about it probably more controlled anyway..... Just follow formula, as stated 125mg of powder and 5ml water... mix it and smear a small ring around the base of your plant after making 1 or 2 small scratchs vertically to break surface.

6-BENZYLAMINOPURINE & BRASSINOLIDE is something you also you should look at with ga3.....
I think I will also be doing the same includeding NAA ( female hormone NO REAL CONCLUSIVE REPORTS) and IBA(rooting/growth through willow water or asprin) in the mix.