How many innocent lives are your guns worth?

nitro harley

nitro harley

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ASMALLVOICE said:
Here is yet another video that shows just how retarded the entire gun control legislation is.
[video=youtube;EzISuduaCuU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzISuduaCuU&feature=player_profilepage[/video]

I am adding a foregrip to my Siaga and look forward to getting yet another one in about a month. I figure if I pay 1k for it now, buy the time the dipshits in government get done, I can sell it for at least 3 times that or more...lol, sounds like a helluva deal to me.

Peace

Asmallvoice
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A year ago I paid 600.00 USD for this Siaga......But after I purchased a 308/7.62 it is my favorite...So I ordered two more it is a DPMS panther arms model,...It's got some horse power......nitro..
 

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Doer

Doer

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Is it 43 or 4.3 million lives? They don't keep these stats. But, I guess the gun bans of the 70 and 80 saw about 5 million killed because the couldn't protect themselves. The higher number I extrapolated from the reduction in the gun murder rate and add the rough guess of what those million a year "Saves" actually are about saving life not property and aggravation.

The low number I got from testimony in Texas. It was a restaurant. At that time, Texas had it a felony to carry in the purse. She testified that she was standing up and going into her purse, had a perfect shot at the guy. But, she had left the gun in her car. The bad guy kill 43 people that day.
She was lucky to make it.

So, to put citizen in this situation; Risk a felony or risk death....well Texas decided. Concealed carry saves lives. Just do a google search on that one.
 
TheMan13

TheMan13

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Ever consider that suicide is a "crime" and counted as such in "gun crime" statistics?

These same "gun ban" politicians changed Sarbanes Oxley allowing banks to once again become the casinos they had been banned from being following the Great Depression. At this same time, these same clowns lowered lending standards and the banks gamed that causing the economic situation we find ourselves in today. Our economy has affected the psychology of our people and surely more responsible for more "gun crimes" than any innate piece of metal. I'm just really tired of the "watch this hand" tactics of our political system. I suggest finding responsibility for these clowns is the only way this country is to going to find the "safety" sought, I don't care how you paint the picture. We just need to wake up ...
 
Doer

Doer

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Oh yeah. One of the BIG LIES is based on that stat of the chance of death in your own home with a gun.

Sure! The bad guys bring guns and kill you. It doesn't mean you are at risk 3x from your one gun more than theirs. And yet we see the numb-nuts here are still preaching that. We trust our govt. We don't trust the numb-nuts.

The numb-nuts lie. The numb-nuts say, "Hey, assault weapons are BAD.
Why does DHS need them?"
 
canecorso505

canecorso505

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They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin
 
ginjawarrior

ginjawarrior

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Doer said:
Is it 43 or 4.3 million lives? They don't keep these stats. But, I guess the gun bans of the 70 and 80 saw about 5 million killed because the couldn't protect themselves. The higher number I extrapolated from the reduction in the gun murder rate and add the rough guess of what those million a year "Saves" actually are about saving life not property and aggravation.

The low number I got from testimony in Texas. It was a restaurant. At that time, Texas had it a felony to carry in the purse. She testified that she was standing up and going into her purse, had a perfect shot at the guy. But, she had left the gun in her car. The bad guy kill 43 people that day.
She was lucky to make it.

So, to put citizen in this situation; Risk a felony or risk death....well Texas decided. Concealed carry saves lives. Just do a google search on that one.
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"The bad guy kill 43 people that day."

what incident are you talking about?
 
canndo

canndo

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Doer said:
You cooperated, bone head. They didn't come after you. You were a deadbeat and you owed. You paid without violence. So what? They can still make you pay.
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Bonehead? no Doer, I NEVER paid the IRS ONE cent that they claimed I owed.
 
canndo

canndo

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Dr Kynes said:
FUCK SEMANTICS!

according to Canndo, semantics are all thats important since without semantics "words have no meaning"

in the minds of agenda driven political whores, words are formless and can be twisted to suit your desired results.

and if a word or phrase becomes too burdened with meaning, then you simply invent a new word, use that new hotness for the purposes which support your agenda, and the old worn out word can be hung around the opposition's neck like an albatross.

which is why layoffs became "outsourcing" which became "downsizing" which became "rightsizing" and will some become something new, perhaps "happy-fun-time-sizing"

but when you are opposed to the employer, its still "layoffs" and "pinkslips" and "throwing workers into the streets"

sematic word-gamers like canndo dont believe anything is real, they are lost in a cartesian dilemma, and everything is smoke and oakum, everything reshapes itself with the slightest breeze and nothing remains but their agenda which is immutable and inviolate.

thats why he feels confident in making the same stupid arguments over and over again.
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You see... this is sad, it is sad because we see Dr Kynes and Mindmelted and kelly devoted to the concept of permanence. They hate me because I point out the obvious, that semantics is the meaning of words, that words are nothing without meaning and that the meaning of those words tends to change over time. Their quarrel is not with me but with Mr. Einstein. Their quarrel is with those who understand that quantum mechanics percolates in upward, that nothing is as it seems, that everything is relative that everything is shifting sand below our feet and that those who are incapable of contending with those slippery slidey realityes will forever be angry that their perception of the world is..... always a bit askew.
 
kelly4

kelly4

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canndo said:
You see... this is sad, it is sad because we see Dr Kynes and Mindmelted and kelly devoted to the concept of permanence. They hate me because I point out the obvious, that semantics is the meaning of words, that words are nothing without meaning and that the meaning of those words tends to change over time. Their quarrel is not with me but with Mr. Einstein. Their quarrel is with those who understand that quantum mechanics percolates in upward, that nothing is as it seems, that everything is relative that everything is shifting sand below our feet and that those who are incapable of contending with those slippery slidey realityes will forever be angry that their perception of the world is..... always a bit askew.
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I don't hate you canndo. I hate the fact that you speak like you know what's best for me and my family even if it takes our freedoms away in doing so.

Anyone who is willing to take away one of my rights, surely is willing to take away more of my rights.

Where will it end?
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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canndo said:
You see... this is sad, it is sad because we see Dr Kynes and Mindmelted and kelly devoted to the concept of permanence. They hate me because I point out the obvious, that semantics is the meaning of words, that words are nothing without meaning and that the meaning of those words tends to change over time. Their quarrel is not with me but with Mr. Einstein. Their quarrel is with those who understand that quantum mechanics percolates in upward, that nothing is as it seems, that everything is relative that everything is shifting sand below our feet and that those who are incapable of contending with those slippery slidey realityes will forever be angry that their perception of the world is..... always a bit askew.
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you take for yourself the role of arbiter of language, declaring that the constitution doesnt mena what it once did, and we must all accept your re-imagining of our rights which hold no resemblance to the rights we are guaranteed by the constitution you hold in such contempt.

claiming the constitution is obsolete, dead, worthless and best forgotten may be fashionable among the lefty elites but the supreme court, and the rest of america disagree.

you may prefer a constitution whose meaning changes so often that it means NOTHING, but the rest of us who can actually read understand, that if you want to change the document that establishes our union then you have to follow the amendment procedure.

none of the changes you want will ever occur. what you want is a banana republic not a constitutional representative republic.
 
HeartlandHank

HeartlandHank

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It still amazes me how in a cannabis grow forum we have people that think that if we make something illegal, or "ban" it then it will just go away.
Give me ONE example of this working in the US.

Take a look at Andrew Kehoe (Bath School Disaster)... The highest death count school mass murderer in Americas history... he used explosives, killing 44 people.
500 lbs of explosives did not detonate. If it had, the deaths could have been near 100.
Just like these school shootings we have seen, he planned for many months, secretly acquiring his weapons and plotting to kill many many innocent people. No guns were used. This was in the 1920s... so, it wasn't the video games either. Just sayin'.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
st0wandgrow said:
Thanks for actually answering the question.

I agree that non-violent felons should be able to own guns again once their sentence is up, but I disagree with you on violent felons.
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I am under the impression that our post-sentence system does not differentiate between violent and other felons. In any case, once paroled ... no longer a felon. To tag someone who's done his time with the identifier "felon" strikes me as unnecessary and punitive. cn
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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HeartlandHank said:
It still amazes me how in a cannabis grow forum we have people that think that if we make something illegal, or "ban" it then it will just go away.
Give me ONE example of this working in the US.
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It's illegal to tie your giraffe to a lamppost in Georgia. I've lived here 12 years now and have yet to see one tied up giraffe so I guess that one worked.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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TheMan13 said:
Ever consider that suicide is a "crime" and counted as such in "gun crime" statistics?

These same "gun ban" politicians changed Sarbanes Oxley allowing banks to once again become the casinos they had been banned from being following the Great Depression. At this same time, these same clowns lowered lending standards and the banks gamed that causing the economic situation we find ourselves in today. Our economy has affected the psychology of our people and surely more responsible for more "gun crimes" than any innate piece of metal. I'm just really tired of the "watch this hand" tactics of our political system. I suggest finding responsibility for these clowns is the only way this country is to going to find the "safety" sought, I don't care how you paint the picture. We just need to wake up ...
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It does carry a rather severe penalty. cn
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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cannabineer said:
I am under the impression that our post-sentence system does not differentiate between violent and other felons. In any case, once paroled ... no longer a felon. To tag someone who's done his time with the identifier "felon" strikes me as unnecessary and punitive. cn
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Zactly. To me if you paid your debt to society than it's even steven. Society names it's price, it gets paid, people move on.
 
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