How our lives will change with a President Ron Paul

MellowFarmer

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I am curious if the Ron Paul supporters really truly believe if pigs fly this Nov and the Big Club lets him win if they really trully believe a damn thing will change? I would be ecstatic if things did change for the better so lets pretend it's January 2019, the world has not ended with 2012, President Ron Paul and VP Kucinich(my hard on for Pres) are finishing their 2nd term. How will our lives be?:peace:
 

lifegoesonbrah

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I am curious if the Ron Paul supporters really truly believe if pigs fly this Nov and the Big Club lets him win if they really trully believe a damn thing will change? I would be ecstatic if things did change for the better so lets pretend it's January 2019, the world has not ended with 2012, President Ron Paul and VP Kucinich(my hard on for Pres) are finishing their 2nd term. How will our lives be?:peace:
Interventionist foreign policy would end since Paul would be commander in Chief unless war is declared by Congress.

The working group would be filled with Austrian economists, which would end inflationary practices and bailouts.

Any bills that expand government or impede civil liberties would be vetoed.

His decisions would not be determined by special interests

He would be a free trade diplomat

etc.
 

mccumcumber

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Interventionist foreign policy would end since Paul would be commander in Chief unless war is declared by Congress.

The working group would be filled with Austrian economists, which would end inflationary practices and bailouts.

Any bills that expand government or impede civil liberties would be vetoed.

His decisions would not be determined by special interests

He would be a free trade diplomat

etc.
War will be declared by congress through lobbying. Corporations profit off of war, they want it to happen, it's not going to stop.

Paul wouldn't have the power to change the working group, I doubt he'll even stop the fed. Again, you underestimate the power of lobbyists.

The vetoed bills would in turn be overruled by congress.

Not even sure how to reply to this one... um fuck yes they will, do you know how bills work?

This last one is true.
 

lifegoesonbrah

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War will be declared by congress through lobbying. Corporations profit off of war, they want it to happen, it's not going to stop.

Paul wouldn't have the power to change the working group, I doubt he'll even stop the fed. Again, you underestimate the power of lobbyists.

The vetoed bills would in turn be overruled by congress.

Not even sure how to reply to this one... um fuck yes they will, do you know how bills work?

This last one is true.

I thought the President appoints the working group?

Maybe warmongering Congress would override his vetoes but it is better than having a President that goes along with it.

As seen by Pauls history he is not affected by lobbyist. (He wouldn't adjust his Veto powers for special interests)
 

mccumcumber

Well-Known Member
I guarantee that at least one member of the working group will not be a laissez-faire economist; if not the majority of them. Yes he can elect them, and Ron Paul might not be corruptible, but that doesn't mean his appointees aren't.

Congress is where the power is at, and Paul, in order to pass at least one ideology that he wants, would need to appease several comprises put in place by congress. Just look at the mess Obama got in.

Again, I'm not saying Paul is affected by Lobbyists, but that doesn't mean everyone else isn't either.
 

UncleBuck

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president paul would work to abolish all public education, in his own words.

he would "liquidate the debt", or in other words, let the whole economy collapse. because ron paul takes the my lai approach to governing, he believes it has become necessary to destroy the town in order to save it.

he'd let big business run roughshod over the people and really give it to us, because anti-trust laws are not free market awesomeness and regulations are stupid.

he would pump up his portfolio by trying to put us on the gold standard, because he is one of those congressional insider trading people and as president it would be insider trading on steroids for corrupt old ronnie.

probably be some turtles on the white house lawn as well.
 

BA142

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Yes, Ron Paul is horse shit and Mitt Romney is the savior of this terrible nation. Right? kiss-ass
 

mccumcumber

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I don't think anyone here likes Mitt. Just laying down the reality that President doesn't do as much as you would like to believe, and maybe some people who seem to care so much about politics ought to start voting for new senators/representatives.

Edit: originally said doesn't do shit, wasn't what I meant to say.
 

lifegoesonbrah

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I don't think anyone here likes Mitt. Just laying down the reality that President doesn't do as much as you would like to believe, and maybe some people who seem to care so much about politics ought to start voting for new senators/representatives.

Edit: originally said doesn't do shit, wasn't what I meant to say.
I agree and believe that decentralization of government would encourage more activism in local politics. However people often dismiss the Presidents informal powers.
 

MellowFarmer

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Interventionist foreign policy would end since Paul would be commander in Chief unless war is declared by Congress.

The working group would be filled with Austrian economists, which would end inflationary practices and bailouts.

Any bills that expand government or impede civil liberties would be vetoed.

His decisions would not be determined by special interests

He would be a free trade diplomat

etc.
If Prez Paul can't overrule Congress on war how in the world will he overrule Congress on special interests? But that'd certainly be sweet.
 

MellowFarmer

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VP Kucinich puts magic mushrooms in Prez Paul's coffee each morning so that he'll be kept busy with the Daily White House Raggae Fests,legalizes drugs and prostitution and gambling, outlaws religion, declares taxes unconstitutional, abolishes the Fed, promises every citizen a free and sound education, sends the Military home with full pensions, sells off the needless weapons and announces we have started a transition to the Barter System.

Half of the world laughs and continues on with their 14 hr work day, the other half is completey oblivious that Tiger Woods is no longer Prez
 

beenthere

New Member
VP Kucinich puts magic mushrooms in Prez Paul's coffee each morning so that he'll be kept busy with the Daily White House Raggae Fests,legalizes drugs and prostitution and gambling, outlaws religion, declares taxes unconstitutional, abolishes the Fed, promises every citizen a free and sound education, sends the Military home with full pensions, sells off the needless weapons and announces we have started a transition to the Barter System.

Half of the world laughs and continues on with their 14 hr work day, the other half is completey oblivious that Tiger Woods is no longer Prez
I think you'd be much happier in Western Europe.
 

deprave

New Member
Civil liberties would be restored and corporate America will have taken some heavy blows especially with the end to the drug war, the crime rate will be at an all time low, agriculture would be restored and everyone would find work easily.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Civil liberties would be restored and corporate America will have taken some heavy blows especially with the end to the drug war, the crime rate will be at an all time low, agriculture would be restored and everyone would find work easily.
will we all get raises too?

LOL!
 

MellowFarmer

Well-Known Member
Civil liberties would be restored and corporate America will have taken some heavy blows especially with the end to the drug war, the crime rate will be at an all time low, agriculture would be restored and everyone would find work easily.
:shock:
Please don't end there! I want to hear the part of the story that tells us How!:shock:
 

Dr Kynes

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Ron Paul has publicly declared that he would, as President,end the "State of Emergency" (just a step below Martial Law) that has been in effect since Dec 7th 1941, which is the cornerstone of most expansions of govt power over the last 70 years. He says he would also rescind most of the executive orders issued in the last century, decapitate the useless war on drugs, war on poverty, war on terror, war on illiteracy, war on hunger, war on aids, etc.. etc.. etc... Declaring war on an idea, a disease, or an ephemeral concept is fucking retarded. As Cheif Executive, the President has many powers to destroy govt interventionism, such as, NOT appointing a head of the DEA BATF FBI NEA HUD IRS CIA NSA EPA Homeland Security (moar like Fatherland Securty AMIRITE?!) and all the other unconstitutional organizations, as well as the million and 5 "working groups" of poindexters diligently striving to turn the US into Metropolis (the 1937 film, not Superman's city).

Another fine move from a Paul administration, actually auditing the federal reserve bank, and the pentagon. if these two organizations ever had to really open their books to the people, there would be mass outrage. Further, extracting us from the UN, Nafta Gatt, the G10, WTO, and all the other boondoggles that the "Free Traders" have bamboozled us into over the last 50 years might actually let the US participate in real Free Trade instead of the Expensive Trade we currently get ass raped with. The current "Free Trade" bullshit so beloved by Wall Street, K Street and Sesame Street is nothing but the shifting of production from the local, state and US economy to anyplace on earth this pair of tube socks can be made 1/10,000th of a cent cheaper. All the Ding Dongs chattering about those evil corporations, in their corporation buildings being all corporationey forget that the biggest corporate bailouts in history occured under Obama, and the Idiots kvetching about war profiteers seem to be forgetting that the biggest wars in world history started under leftist and progressive leadership on all sides. (Hitler FDR Stalin Mussolini Hirohito and Chamberlain all wanted some hope and change, and all were socialists to varying degrees, socialism being the defining economic theory of the Left)
 
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