How tall is tall?

Crypnotic

Active Member
This is question that I've been trying to find the answer to for some time. All strains are classified by max height. They divided into three main catagories of height: small, med, and tall.

Here is my question: how high is small, med, tall?

For example, is it: small = less than three feet; med = less than five feet; tall = more than five feet.

Plus rep to anyone who knows the correct answer and can site/link confirmed documantation. Thanks.:clap:
 

cowell

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Umm.. where have you looked? a google search threw this up as it's first result..

http://www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/mjgrow9d.htm

I'll summarize for you...

Cannabis indica

Cannabis indica probably originated in the areas around the Himalayas in Asia. It is now cultivated in most parts of the globe. When grown outdoors, an indica plant seldom exceeds 10 feet in height. However, indica is the most bushy of all species of cannabis.



and



Cannabis sativa


Cannabis sativa probably originated in Asia or Europe. It is now cultivated in most parts of the globe. When grown outdoors, some sativa strains can grow to a height of 20-25 feet.



So.. if you go by max height.. the small would be to an indica (any Kush) max of 10 ft...and the tall sativa (like a lemon haze) would be 25 ft.. stuff that are mixed would be in the middle.
 

Crypnotic

Active Member
Good lord. Fist look up indica for its meaning. Second look up Kush, and try to understand its place in the indica region. Third, Look up SLH to see if it a true sativa. Fourth, Look thru the ABC's post again and try to formulate an idea bout how old and outdated it is.

Get those four things down and your a novice. Come back when your expert. Thanks.
 

Crypnotic

Active Member
Correction: what do the sizes mean to strains grown indoors. I'm interested in the range assigned to each catagory by industry standards, if there is such a thing. If you KNOW, then say. If you google some BS like above, pls just skip it.
 

Dinosaur Bone

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what do the sizes mean to strains grown indoors. .
Height means NOTHING. If it did, breeders would get out a tape measure and tell you exactly how tall "small, med and tall" is. Considering all the other qualities they describe... actuall height should be one of them.

Most indoor folks either Top, LST, SCROG or all three to keep height down. Most folks who dont top, lst or scrog will veg it to 12" - 24" then switch to flowering. Veg it to about half the hieght you want it to finish at, then switch to flower.

So if you have an 8ft ceiling... an 18" tall pot...the bottom of your light fixture at its highest adjustment is 12" from ceiling... and you want to keep the plant 6" away from the light... You can grow a 5 ft tall plant. Veg it to 2' 6" tall {or 2ft to be safe} then switch to flower.
 

HomeGrown&Smoked

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I think Bone is on to something. I always got the feeling it would give an indication of how stretchy the plant would turn out. You can grow an 8 foot plant indoors, you just have to tie it down right. Topping and fimming are other great ways to control the height, so I wouldn't let the potential height of a plant affect whether I would grow it or not.
 

Crypnotic

Active Member
Fuck, Fuck, Fuck! Everything can be measured and quantified. Trust me. As a profession, I am actuary, the APPLIED SCIENCES. I work in the Insurance Industry, where we MUST figure out how a person, with many different varibales, will cost us over a year to five yeas time. When you walk into your agents office, does he tell you that the price of insurance while depend? Or say price means nothing? Or ask you how much money do you have in your pocket? Never! But a stoner will, every fucking time. Fuck it, nevermind. How the hell do I delete this fucking post? Fuck, fuck , fuck.
 

Crypnotic

Active Member
Worthless. I need to find a new data collection site. "My grandma, uncle, sister, brother, dealer said its ALL GOOD. No need to measure shit!"
 

Dinosaur Bone

Active Member
I think Bone is on to something. I always got the feeling it would give an indication of how stretchy the plant would turn out. You can grow an 8 foot plant indoors, you just have to tie it down right. Topping and fimming are other great ways to control the height, so I wouldn't let the potential height of a plant affect whether I would grow it or not.
I'm not on to anything... :lol: ;-) That's the trend, that's what everyone is doing.

I doubt the secret garden in Africa breeding Durban is letting Durban Poison achieve its full 10-15ft tall glory. They are probably bending her over, tying her down, and maybe even topping. When all is said and done, the breeder looks at the plant and says "this one is tall".

An industry standard meaning for small, med, tall would also have to take into consideration how long it vegged. There isn't much of a standard for that either.
 

HomeGrown&Smoked

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Don't have a hissy fit, and pull your panties out of a bunch. There are too many factors that can affect the end height, not limited to size of root space, lighting, nutes, available height, etc. It would be like a new mother walking into your office and asking you to tell her exactly how tall her baby will be when he or she turns 18. Too many variables.

Some things can only be measured in general terms.
 

Crypnotic

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I've come to the conclusion that weed is bad for people. If you think your too smart for your own good, smoke some weed.
 

HomeGrown&Smoked

Active Member
If you don't like weed, don't mess with it.

I'll put it like this- you wanted exact information on height, you looked for that information, couldn't find it, posted a thread, and everyone else has confirmed there isn't any information available. I would apologize for this upsetting you, but I would be apologizing for two things that are outside of my control.

Again, there are too many variables to calculate the end height of the plant. They can be categorized as short, medium and tall; but that is as close as you can get.
 

Crypnotic

Active Member
There is nothing that has too many variables . . . if its variable, it can be measure. If words like "too many" or "depends" give you comfort, then by all means, seek safety in them. Or if the lazy hazyof weed gives you the , "Oh my god I'm soooo stoned, and that is alot shit to think about, much less track, to come up with an average . . . what was I saying? Huh!? I'm stoned, that shit makes my head hurt! Depends dude, and that is too much shit to understand dude."
 

Dinosaur Bone

Active Member
If the breeders aren't growing to full height, how are they or anyone else who isn't going to be able to tell you??

There is no industry or hobbyist standard for how long to vegetate. 4-6 weeks seems to be an average.... and likely that's how long the breeders veg too = 12 - 18" before flowering x 2 to 2 1/2 = no strain of plant should get taller than 6ft {and if it does... the apical dominant bud will be topped, bent over, tied down or whatever to keep it from bumping ugly with the light}

THUS : small = 2ft-, Med = 3 - 4 ft, Tall = 5 - 6 ft.

Disclaimer: I do not represent this as documented, and researched fact. BUT I "documented" & "published" it just now, after thinking about it for an hour and arriving at a logical conclusion based on my experience {yours may vary} and trends that I have observed. Obviously someone will come along with a variable like having actually vegged a plant for 7 years... and thier 15ft plant didn't finish at 30-40 ft tall...
 

HomeGrown&Smoked

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It isn't about being lazy. Fact is you can take clones from one plant and grow those clones to different heights. To give a number, the seed banks have to do one of two things: 1) give you the average height for all the plants grown, what conditions they were grown in, and what methods were used to grow them, or 2) they can grow a strain and say "Damn, the thing is pretty tall" and put that on the strain review. They are simply guidelines to help the grower determine if the height of the plant can become a concern if grown in limited space. If you want guidelines more specific than that, just order some seeds, grow them, clone them, harvest them, them measure them. Fact remains the grower has more control over the height than you might believe, simply because of the environmental factors the grower can control.

That, combined with your opinion that weed makes someone lazy, makes me really doubt if you have been exposed to the substance. In fact, it might do you good to light up a bowl- it seems that something is troubling you and I highly doubt it is the specificity of seed bank's strain reviews.
 

Canon

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For my area / style / comfort;
16" = small (Ooops!)
30" = medium (ie; Arrrh, just right)
38" = tall (hinge the top!)
46" = way too tall (should of been outside)

I feel the system is only as reference of one plant strain in comparison to another under identical growing conditions.
Basicly the general meaning,,, is meaningless for what I think you want to hear. It's simply relevant to grow conditions.
Really nothing mystical.
Indica is generally small.
Sativa - tall
sativa / indica - medium
sativa / indica X sativa could be most likely in the tall group, however it could possibly be strong on indica genes and that could put it into the medium group.

It's simply a relevant guide.

Like me saying it's a warm day (75 deg). That would be relevant to my area.
If you lived at the South Pole you may consider it hot.
But in Brazil it may be cool for this time of year.

Get the idea?
Now loose the childish attitude - Thank you.
 
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