How to Negotiate a Growers Contract?

Contract growing is highly sought after job right now.

So being offered the contract is already offering me my dreams.
All living expenses are covered. It's a live in operation.

Although, I'm slightly worried I might look like a greedy dick trying to make a quick buck. Which I'm not. I don't think I'd lose this contract to someone willing to do it for cheaper, but you never know... Until you see that guy wearing your shoes, doing your job.

I was just wondering what a good opening bid on a growers contract is.

I've seen someone drop 3k/Lb as a term of contract.

That seems way to high to me,
I plan on looking like a normal person and throwing out a normal number. Then they can return with their lower proposal and I can just sign and get this over with.

Trying to avoid coming off as a desperate grower longing for legalization.

Also, trying to understand how the work is paid for by labor used and not the product given...

What about 1500/lb? Anyone able to convert that to labor hours or w/e for a contract?
I feel like that is a reasonable number for them to start with. If they go with 1200/lb, I think I'd be in heaven.

Well say it takes you four months to get from seed to cured finished deliverable smokable product. Now a huge grow is a full time job or at least we can say it is lol. So let's go with a normal 40 hour week. 40*13= 520 (not to be confused with 420 *drum roll*). To some people 520 hours is worth less than $5200 to some it's worth $10,400 how much is it worth to you?

that ssounds good if they buy and pay all bills, also you would need to be able to produce atleast 6 lbs every 10-12 weeks, witch is 7200 on the low end making 600 week atleast 30 hours a week of work 20 dollars an hour the forula is somthing like that just put in you nubers

lbsx1200=/weeks=/estimated hours workedperweek=hourly wage

go with 3K a LB minus the living exspenses

Neo,
thanks for putting it in that perspective for me. I think my hours are worth $20

w/o chance,
thank you, since it's going to be like a career for the long run. I'll be going perpetual and stagger my crops to harvest monthly. I'm liking the $20 per hour deal. Just gotta work out that formula. 1200(x)lbs/520 hours? Thats like 23/hour for 10 lbs every 4months?

riddleme,
thank you as well. i'm actually considering that, because then it leaves the rest open to their interpretation. The ball will be in their court. Then they can make whatever offer they feel is reasonable.

$23 an hour sounds perfect to me. Whether it be 30 or 40 hours a week. I will spend all my time working and/or posting my work here. God I hope I still have internet.

Should I negotiate internet? lol

PurpleRhinoceros said:

Contract growing is highly sought after job right now.

So being offered the contract is already offering me my dreams.
All living expenses are covered. It's a live in operation.

Although, I'm slightly worried I might look like a greedy dick trying to make a quick buck. Which I'm not. I don't think I'd lose this contract to someone willing to do it for cheaper, but you never know... Until you see that guy wearing your shoes, doing your job.

I was just wondering what a good opening bid on a growers contract is.

I've seen someone drop 3k/Lb as a term of contract.

That seems way to high to me,
I plan on looking like a normal person and throwing out a normal number. Then they can return with their lower proposal and I can just sign and get this over with.

Trying to avoid coming off as a desperate grower longing for legalization.

Also, trying to understand how the work is paid for by labor used and not the product given...

What about 1500/lb? Anyone able to convert that to labor hours or w/e for a contract?
I feel like that is a reasonable number for them to start with. If they go with 1200/lb, I think I'd be in heaven.

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Seems like a good deal...I have found that if you do what you love for a living... Life is always pretty cool... Because doing what you love never feels like work right?... Hate my job thats why I hope my grow venture eventual gets me out... But if I had that chance like you do... It wouldn't be a question.

Here in Colorado , dispensaries must grow 70 % of their own crop and can buy 30 % from another dispensary . No more just buying from anybody . Meaning you must be a part owner to grow for a dispensary here .

dadio161 said:

Here in Colorado , dispensaries must grow 70 % of their own crop and can buy 30 % from another dispensary . No more just buying from anybody . Meaning you must be a part owner to grow for a dispensary here .

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From what I understood, dispensaries are having trouble producing 70% and are hiring contractors as we speak.
I saw in the news that a 19 year old kid in charge of over 100 plants lost his contract job due to the new law requiring him to be 21.
Many others have lost their contracts due to importing vs manufacturing. I have no idea what idiot would take their perfectly good growing contract and drive to California to bring weed back to their boss. I just hope it wasn't for the money, greed will take a person down.
Maybe their crops got destroyed or something, I have no idea what their personal situation was, so I can't really judge them.
More jobs for us anyways right?

I'm not trying to be just anybody selling to dispensaries. I'm being offered the contract, it's in development with the dispensary and their lawyer. It would be great if they just handed me a piece of paper to sign, but they want me to play their game and "negotiate"...

First off, their lawyer will be my lawyer if need be, so why am I negotiating again? Second, I don't know the second thing about negotiating something that you would make a deal with the devil for, (Do I offer them my first born?). And thirdly, I am frankly just confused about not getting paid for the LBs, but by the LBs in some legal hooplah mumbo jumbo.

I'm not growing my own weed and selling it to them. I'm growing their weed and they are selling it.

as this is my first post I don't want to overstep my bounds by sharing my opinion.it sounds like the dispensary has a lawyer for representation and maybe so should you.and their lawyer being your lawyer is conflicting to say the least.consider private counsel and if the dispensary changes their attitude negatively you might wanna steer clear.enlighten and expand,good luck,
ThcBuz

ThcBuz said:

as this is my first post I don't want to overstep my bounds by sharing my opinion.it sounds like the dispensary has a lawyer for representation and maybe so should you.and their lawyer being your lawyer is conflicting to say the least.consider private counsel and if the dispensary changes their attitude negatively you might wanna steer clear.enlighten and expand,good luck,
ThcBuz

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No, that was super polite of you. And you made a very good point. What happens if things get sour. I should have a lawyer to represent me. You are absolutely right. Thank you for the concern and the first post used up on helping me. Appreciated +rep!

It seems like they want you to base the pay on production correct? (lb per $) Versus hourly correct? They may not like it but i would try to raise "living expenses" as high as possible to lower the per lb price, that way if they want to control (this would be my biggest problem) every aspect except you tend the plants, and if they chose low production strains you still make your money. I would try to insure what decisions will be up to who. We all know that everything in the garden has options, and if you are not the one making the majority of decisions will you really by happy with the set up? And i also like the idea of you getting a personal lawyer (and put the fees into your living expenses).

TruenoAE86coupe said:

It seems like they want you to base the pay on production correct? (lb per $) Versus hourly correct? They may not like it but i would try to raise "living expenses" as high as possible to lower the per lb price, that way if they want to control (this would be my biggest problem) every aspect except you tend the plants, and if they chose low production strains you still make your money. I would try to insure what decisions will be up to who. We all know that everything in the garden has options, and if you are not the one making the majority of decisions will you really by happy with the set up? And i also like the idea of you getting a personal lawyer (and put the fees into your living expenses).

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They are telling me I'm in charge of the setup, but ya never know right? They can say that, then start cutting corners and doing what business usually does. I don't think they are like that at all, but dude when money starts getting involved people change on you for sure. :/ sad laws of life.

But speaking of the law, I'm not even sure exactly how the pay is. From what I heard it's supposed to be labor related not product related, yet it's like still measured in /lb. It's killing me that I don't know where I was first reading about the contract. God damn internet is too big. Since I'm not selling their weed to them, I'm getting payed by the labor...

Edit: I sound crazy. But I'm still waiting. We will see soon. Hopefully it's just not overwhelming.

Be very careful of any arrangement that includes living expenses. Is it their building/house? If the relationship goes bad are you out on your ass? Will you owe the utility bill and who's name is on the utility bill and the lease? Who owns the equipment? They own the plants but what else?
Better get your own lawyer homie. And fast!
Fred

I would jump on this opportunity, personally. Even if it meant I'd had to pick up a part time job 15-25 hours a week for some side-cash. You're in a good situation.

I would say just be careful. I have had a couple friends contract grow and get screwed. Make sure its all in writing, and that the money IS there and you trust and/or know these peolpe. and make sure that they arent sensitive. In a grow, sometimes things DO go wrong. If they are gonna be all sensitive when things do go wrong they may come at you with a head like you dont know what your doing. Thats what i would say to look out for. Its not like its a big deal, and its gonna happen, just be wary. other than that, go for it and have fun!! it is a lot of work, but its really kind of stress relieving.

in colorado in order to grow especially for a store.... you will need to be part of the MMC or you belong to another MMC selling your surplus to a store

in order to legally grow for a dispensary you had to have the contract completed by 8/1/10 and the dispensary had to submit an Optional Premise Cultivation License [$1200 app fee].

Joe blow grower can not just grow for a store (legally)....the store requires a contract.....in this contract it states that the health and fire dept can come inspect your grow op at any time and you also need 24 hr security camera installed.....your grow op address is on file

A master grower should get a 10-15% commision based on total weight production of their crop.... plus $800-1000 a week base pay ($20-25 a hour 40 hr week)

example 20 lb crop x $3000 = $60000 x 10%.... $6000 bonus (every 2 months is possible) Stores sell their product anywhere from $5-6000 a lb retail.... buying wholsale $2600-3200

$1500 to $2500 is wholesale thanks to edible cos.

It is my understanding that the grower must be an employee of the center.