How to Sell and Not Get Caught

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Swag

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this was my only real problem with what you said...why do you think majority are "lieing"? because they are enthusiastic about their right to medicate with marijuana? and then kinda compairing our right to use cannabis to their "rights" to take it away?
No I think they are lying about it being their only successful outlet to relieving their ailments/illnesses. Many just go straight to the doctor for some BS reason such as "anxiety, minor back pain, appetite loss" with the sure-fired intent of just getting a marijuana script instead of actually focusing on properly treating their condition at hand. There are LOADS of legal alternatives that they can utilize that are usually more effective for treating many of their conditions. I mean when you see patients in dispensaries most of them say what silly little thing they had to say to obtain their card and even laugh about the whole stupidity of having to go through all of it just to legally smoke this plant. I think the whole thing is almost as bad as pill mills in that sense. People using cheap medical excuses just to "legally" use their drug of choice. Though its not the persons fault for wanting to get high, everyone likes getting high and as Serapis stated earlier in this thread a fair share of people who do get medically approved just basically give up on the legalization movement because as long as their needs are met that is all they care about. Jesus I really don't even know where I was going with this but basically I think attempting to create marijuana legalization/decriminalization from a medical approach is unethical. Yes some people do need it for that sole reason but it is my personal opinion that the majority of people with cards just want to get high... and theres nothing wrong with that.
 

Swag

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its funny how the feds put up regulations for state card holders..and how obama talks about it and how they dont fuk with people usless they break state laws LOL but yea if you wanna get ignorant about it then yea federal overrides state law and the point is...?
If i'm not mistaken I read on here recently that the DEA was going to disregard Obama's call regarding to not bust dispensaries under some stupid "emergency" drug protocol they can enact. Kind of like the emergency Spice ban. Though I may be wrong...
 

Cali.Grown>408

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Do you really believe the conviction was for "transporting over 2 million pounds"? I mean, you must have spent at least some time really reading about Mark, you missed the fact that he was convicted for conspiracy to distribute, and not for "transporting over 2 million pounds". I mean, if you can read at all, you must know that right? And you don't see how mis-stating a fact to give credence to a point undermines it? In other words, you think that it's okay to twist and spin as long as your doing it for a good reason? Do you not see how manipulating the truth leaves any points you make without merit? Do you have any self respect? Or is it possible that you really believe he was convicted for "transporting over 2 million pounds", really, do you believe that? Really?

And if we all posts links to sources sighting his real charges, will you then jus say "wake up, im right bitch" and ignore empirical evidence? That has been your pattern so far. But hey, as long as your the bigger smart ass and get the last word in, it's all good right?
your tripping dont make me post a video up..your not even worth my time
 

Bublonichronic

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@swag
i can respect that, but I FEEL alot of those people ur talking about dont even realize themselvs that their "self medicating"...and might even just be embarrassed to admit it, so joke about how its all just to get high...BUT, then again im sure most of those people could find better relief threw pharmaceuticals, but might not be able to afford professional help...but atleast we both agree that Mj should just be leagl:hug:
 

ChronicObsession

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I want to get busted, I love anal sex! Penis and tattoos penis and tattoos all day.
LOOL.... Yea, putting a bunch of men together inside of a bread box is your government's way of showing you how democracy and order make simple decisions like if marijuana should be legal or not....*Congress Douche to Federal Judge* Derrrrrr let's lock dem all in a small room for a few years so they can be special man friends and get tattoos and finally learn their lessons duuggughgh. I guess the government really doesn't know anything about what should be free and what shouldn't be. Why the hell do we have to pull the donkey? The donkey is the government and it doesn't appear to be serving us the '90s dream, damn 2000s...
 

endogarden

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Serapis interpreted most of what I had wanted to convey but also I was trying to point out this (above underlined quote). Marijuana is no "magical plant" it has cannabinoids present in it as a self-defense mechanism to protect it's most vital part of existence, the ovaries (Buds). San Pedro, Peruvian Torch, Peyote, Psilocybe & Amanita Mushrooms, Datura, Morning Glory seeds and various plants used in the Ayahuasca brew all contain psychoactive chemicals which are/were treated as holistic medicines around the world... marijuana is not some selective plant we were meant to live in a symbiotic relationship with. Also marijuana produces side effects from chronic use as well, now its not like going into a seizure from not taking your benzos but negative side effects can/do occur. The problem with most psychoactive medication in general is that the positive effects of it are derived from the "negative effects" of intoxication, an since marijuana has a less subtle intoxicating feeling compared to low doses of benzos and narcotics it is seen more as just a recreational drug. I have panic attacks and alcohol helps me way more than xanax does but it also impairs me more which is the reason why I can't bring a bottle of grey goose and a shot glass to ease my stress at work and than tell my boss "Uh... I'm taking my medication...". My summary of what I am trying to convey to all of you is, Stop viewing marijuana on a political level and from just your ethical and moral views; start seeing it and the drugs produced by the "evil" pharmaceutical corporations on a pharmacological level ;). I have absolutely nothing against marijuana or its users whether they're using it for medical or recreational purposes... I do have a problem with ignorance and arrogance (MMJ card flaunting) though.
Firstly, I'm really sorry to hear you have panic attacks, that really sucks. I'm glad you've at least found some way to help deal with them though.

So on with it; Despite the pharmacology, I personally do believe cannabis is a plant we as humans were meant to live in a symbiotic relationship with. Along with many others, some food, some psychedelic. And I do think it's magical, without the quotation marks.

It's not that the pharmaceutical corporations are evil, it's the lack of honesty and human empathy, and a focus on profits, in an industry that shouldn't be focusing on profits over people, when their industry literally is people. You have to at least give that to the medical cannabis community, for every few people who are using it for profit, there are many clubs, dispensaries and growers who are using it to help needy people lacking resources get medicine for free or very low cost. And this medicine's 'side effects' are nowhere near as dangerous as those of opiates or benzos.

I feel I see substances on a a pharmacological level. But that isn't the only level as I'm sure you are aware. It is good to take in many perspectives. Thanks for yours. I also take issue with unnecessary flaunting of a misunderstanding of the purpose of a "medical marijuana license". But I suppose it too is part of the collective consciousness processing.

Also thank you for pointing out that I totally contradicted myself earlier, I guess sometimes it is hard to not view it as separate sides, instead of one huge collective consciousness going through collective processing on many levels.

Respect.


P.S. The comment about your name being negative, I always though the word referred to was 'Schwag', and I thought 'swag' was something cool you nab for free at event type places (I talked to the Sunmaster demo guy at the hydro trade show for 15 minutes, and look at all this swag I got! Free thouie, a mousepad, and a coupon or some shit), or as of late, a certain way of carrying oneself as to exude confidence and finesse (that nigga got swag, nam sayn). Anyways I'm hittin the Blarney Stone (22% THC 3.8% CBD Sativa, locally grown, dense, fairly dry nug, little smell, $18 a gram at the dispensary...worth it) and takin a nap, I'm tired from drowning my plants and then reading and typing about plants for hours....
 

Isisyogi

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there u go again talking out of your ass..dont be upset if you have no comeback for me just take it like a man instead of making shit up that u know nothing about
Just jumping in here, but it's obviously you who doesn't know what you are talking about. The DOJ just announce last week that they will be "aggressively prosecuting" those who are involved with legal mmj at the state level. They punctuated that statement by raiding 4 growers & dispensaries in Spokane, seizing over 4 million in assets. AZ is a few months away from dispensaries & grow facilities being up & running, the Feds have promised that they will cock block this at every turn. Given that Arpaio used to be the head of the DEA and is consider to be America's Toughest Sheriff, you can guarantee that if you are growing here with your kind of brazen attitude, you will be busted and state laws will not protect you in federal court. You might not get arrested and charged federally, but the Feds keep the assets. Then it's back to square one, except with a giant bullseye on your back. But hey, keep up the cockyness, you'll be the target that keeps them preoccupied and off the true herbalists backs.
 

Burger Boss

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We have things called jobs for that. ya know... Why don't we just instruct everyone on how to break into cars and steal stereos? I'm not suggesting that it's good and people should do it, but if they want to pay their bills, why shouldn't they be told how they can do this? We'll ake sure noone get's hurt and it's all hukydorey right? ;) This is a place for nice cannabis growers not greeedy dealer cunts. They should all be run over :) But i must be wrong, dealers and their totally batshit cray prices don't have any bearing on the public percepton of "drugs" or as such it's legal or illegal nature. They should all be dragged under the keel of a boat! :lol:

Aarrrggghhhhhh...............& LOL, Shiver me timbers, Tip top has the heart of a TRUE Pirate! Ye are welcome aboard the "Honey Badger" ANYTIME!............BB
 

Cali.Grown>408

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Just jumping in here, but it's obviously you who doesn't know what you are talking about. The DOJ just announce last week that they will be "aggressively prosecuting" those who are involved with legal mmj at the state level. They punctuated that statement by raiding 4 growers & dispensaries in Spokane, seizing over 4 million in assets. AZ is a few months away from dispensaries & grow facilities being up & running, the Feds have promised that they will cock block this at every turn. Given that Arpaio used to be the head of the DEA and is consider to be America's Toughest Sheriff, you can guarantee that if you are growing here with your kind of brazen attitude, you will be busted and state laws will not protect you in federal court. You might not get arrested and charged federally, but the Feds keep the assets. Then it's back to square one, except with a giant bullseye on your back. But hey, keep up the cockyness, you'll be the target that keeps them preoccupied and off the true herbalists backs.
im not cocky i just know my rights and been exercising them for a while now..state's give u the power to create you own laws and as long as we stay within our plant limit we have nothing to worry about especially in cali..i gave examples of who the feds are worried about..big grow ops or big names in the industry PERIOD and if we did get caught by the feds the punishment isn't what it used to be..i mean when u hear about some dude transporting 700,000 POUNDS from canada to the u.s and only getting a year to 2years in prison u kinda of think about what they would do if they caught a medical patient growing 6-12 plants or whatever your county's maximum limits are..im thinking they wouldn't give a shit about it, if anything cut it down and slap you on the wrist.
 

Serapis

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Here we go again...... Caligrown starting more trouble on RIU......... I guess you forgot about our discussion of rules? I hope you are soon reminded....

there u go again talking out of your ass..dont be upset if you have no comeback for me just take it like a man instead of making shit up that u know nothing about
 

KuLong

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Here we go again...... Caligrown starting more trouble on RIU......... I guess you forgot about our discussion of rules? I hope you are soon reminded....
You have to admit though, since he started posting here, his writing is showing improvement. I could actually understand almost half of his last statement.

So there is a silver lining. :)
 

Cali.Grown>408

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Here we go again...... Caligrown starting more trouble on RIU......... I guess you forgot about our discussion of rules? I hope you are soon reminded....
LOL..snitch..don't even talk to me bro ur just asking for problems. That's probably why the mod's dont take rep or whatever from me..they see how u keep butting in on conversations trying to cause problems and act like your somebody..DUDE your a nobody, realize that.
 

KuLong

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I know there are too many mistakes in all of your post, but lets start with something simple shall we?

your a nobody, realize that.
Correct : You're nobody.
Incorrect: Your nobody.

Now be a good gangsta wannabi with a stolen photograph for your avatar and pick up a book. Might I suggest "Encyclopedia brown"? It's around your level and I think it will help you with your imagination as well.

If that book is too complicated, do not feel bad. It is not your fault.

Also, please stop calling people names. I know its hard because you are constantly called names and you think its normal behavior, but lets try and keep it civil shall we?
 

endogarden

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Sucks the interesting exchange that was going on here got overshadowed by petty bullshit arguing/insulting. Now the trolls are here. Sigh.
 
I dont sell but careful who you sell to. Common sense right?

Good example, watch that show DEA. They routinely start investigations from the ground up, bust a user, bust their street hustler, then bust their supplier. They always make the arrest, threaten jail time, unless they flip and give up the supplier. Dealing is a pretty serious offense, cultivation on top of it..be careful. You dont want to go down for cultivation with intent to distribute, especially in USA where marijuana is a schedule I narcotic
 
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