How will Canada crack down on marijuana-impaired drivers?

VIANARCHRIS

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When Colorado legalized pot in 2014, police weren't prepared to crack down on smoking and driving
Law enforcement agencies should prepare for an influx of drug-impaired drivers before marijuana is legalized in Canada, says an American state trooper.

When Colorado legalized marijuana in 2014, police weren't prepared to crack down on those who light up before getting behind the wheel, said Lt.-Col. Kevin Eldridge.

'You have to think about how you're going to deal with this increase of a drug in the society, and how you keep people from driving under the influence.' - Lt.-Col. Kevin Eldridge
"Most traffic agencies in Canada are very focused on driving down traffic fatalities, and this is a cog in the wheel," said Eldridge, who shared lessons on enforcement with traffic safety experts from across the country during Monday's International Conference on Urban Traffic Safety in Edmonton.

"You have to think about how you're going to deal with this increase of a drug in the society, and how you keep people from driving under the influence."

The federal government has promised to begin the process of legalizing recreational cannabis in the spring of 2017. The Liberals have provided no further details, however, on what the legislation might look like, leaving the question of road safety unanswered.

Eldridge said Canadian police agencies will be left scrambling if they fail to develop new officer training and enforcement policies well in advance of legalization.

"There were several different policies we had to change," he said. "When they legalized, everyone focused on this one aspect, smoking marijuana is legal. But officer hiring, employment, and evidence — there were many different aspects that we really didn't think about as much as we should have before implementation."

Drug-impaired drivers hard to detect
Detecting stoners behind the wheel remains one of the biggest challenges for Colorado police officers, Eldridge said.

The Colorado State Patrol is using marijuana DUI devices as part of a three-year pilot program.

'It impacts your ability to focus, to judge, to perceive, depth perception, control, all of that is under the influence.' - Lt.-Col. Kevin Eldridge
More than 125 troopers have been equipped with one of five types of an oral fluid tester that samples a driver's saliva for the presence of drugs, including marijuana. But the devices have not been officially approved, and it will be two more years before the pilot is completed.

"It impacts and impairs driving," Eldridge said of marijuana. "Whether it's any drug, it impacts your ability to focus, to judge, to perceive, depth perception, control, all of that is under the influence. But we're still trying to really get a handle on what that looks like with marijuana."

Canada is exploring the use of similar DUI devices, but they need to be extensively tested in the field, and legislative changes will need to be made before they can be adopted.

How much is too much?
Just how much marijuana intoxication — if any — will legally be allowed for Canadian drivers remains unclear.

In Colorado, drivers with five nanograms of active tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) in their blood can be prosecuted for driving under the influence. But blood tests are needed to enforce that limit.

No matter what level of THC, officers in Colorado can still make arrests based on their judgment. Eldridge said the effects of THC on individual users can be unpredictable, and even minute amounts can make some drivers dangerous.


State police in Washington arrest a 19-year-old man who admits to smoking a single joint after work and driving home. (Glen Kugelstadt/CBC)

"It's illegal in Colorado to drive a vehicle while impaired by anything, alcohol or drugs, and the drugs can be legal drugs, over-the-counter drugs or illegal drugs," said Eldridge.

"There's not really a quantifiable amount for marijuana right now, because the drug affects people so much differently than alcohol … there's just not that level of study for marijuana yet."

Trend difficult to track
In Colorado, about 10 per cent of drivers involved in fatal accidents in 2010 tested positive for the drug. By 2014, just over a year after recreational sales were legalized, that number had nearly doubled to 19 per cent.

DUI summonses involving marijuana (either alone or in combination with other drugs, usually alcohol) fell one per cent between 2014 and 2015.

But Eldridge said the number of drug-impaired drivers, and how much danger they pose on the state's roads, has so far been difficult to track. The Colorado State Patrol only began collecting information about specific drugs involved in driving under the influence cases in 2014.

Before then, police records didn't single out different types of drugs in data collection for crime statistics.

"When you arrested someone for driving under the influence, it's either driving under the influence of alcohol or driving under the influence of drugs. Nobody really knows how many you have, because no one separated those prior to the legalization of marijuana," said Eldridge. "They were all lumped together."
 

gb123

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this person fails to realize...


Whats going to change? We're going to have more drivers than we have now??
Think about that...lol
its not like there hasnt been any herb around until now :lol:
We should already have all these impaired drivers and accidents that are caused by herb?
 

torontoke

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The flaw in his theory? Comparing Canadians to Americans.....apples & oranges!
I think the flaw is between their ears.
If the cops can't tell if the person is impaired then let them go about their day. Johnny obvious hot boxing his car outside of his high school doesn't need a saliva test.
Fuk me
The negative nonsense just never ends. Why don't they just make cars out of nerf foam or just make all cars illegal. People would live forever especially the tofu vegan conspiracy people
 

torontoke

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what LOL
im curious whats a tofu vegan conspiracy person
You know what's really funny
As I typed that I said to myself "watch this will be the one thing I post that gets a reaction" and I specifically thought of you lol.

Just ignore me like most on here do lmao.

tofu vegan conspiracy people are the ones that try to raise their kids in the safety bubble yet wonder why their kids are allergic to the smell of their own farts.
I see them all the time in my neighbourhood so I'm a bit biased.
Like I said jus ignore me
 

sunni

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You know what's really funny
As I typed that I said to myself "watch this will be the one thing I post that gets a reaction" and I specifically thought of you lol.

Just ignore me like most on here do lmao.

tofu vegan conspiracy people are the ones that try to raise their kids in the safety bubble yet wonder why their kids are allergic to the smell of their own farts.
I see them all the time in my neighbourhood so I'm a bit biased.
Like I said jus ignore me
i was in the middle of writing my thoughts on the article than i glanced over your post and couldnt help myself.

its weird that you know people like all the veg parents i know are opposite of the safety bubble ideal lol
 

torontoke

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i was in the middle of writing my thoughts on the article than i glanced over your post and couldnt help myself.

its weird that you know people like all the veg parents i know are opposite of the safety bubble ideal lol
A lot of my exs friends are super strict with every aspect of their kids and I think it borders on child abuse personally. But I'm old fashioned and think kids need to be kids. Over protecting people is my main point against the article.
People stupid enough to drive stoned are going to do it whether mj is legal or not. And I'd even go as Far as to say that even a stoned driver is arguably safer then some elderly folks. But there probably isn't enough money in the senile blind breathalyzer
 

sunni

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A lot of my exs friends are super strict with every aspect of their kids and I think it borders on child abuse personally. But I'm old fashioned and think kids need to be kids. Over protecting people is my main point against the article.
People stupid enough to drive stoned are going to do it whether mj is legal or not. And I'd even go as Far as to say that even a stoned driver is arguably safer then some elderly folks. But there probably isn't enough money in the senile blind breathalyzer
i think you shouldnt drive impared on anything
whether that be prescription pills, alcohol , weed, or shrooms.
this also includes elderly age imho.

to me it isnt about what is safer or less impaired so much as its just you shouldnt drive if you put others at risk due to something you have put into your body and system that causes even a bit of impairment.
Responsibility is key when driving and its right not a privilege.

thats just my two cents on the matter. the roads should be free to be safe for all drivers.
 

gb123

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The flaw in his theory? Comparing Canadians to Americans.....apples & oranges!
Three Barrels.8-)

Each Barrel is marked Apples , Oranges, and Mixed (apples and oranges) on the side.
Now...
All the Barrels have been mixed up and each no longer has in it what it says on the side.

Problem.


How do you figure out what fruit is in what Barrel if you can only stick your hand in one of the barrels one time.

(:
 
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torontomeds

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What about people like myself who truly become more focused on Cannabis? I drive better when "Stoned" I am not just making that up to sound cool, I truly drive better when I have medicated. If I wake up do not smoke and go out and drive, I think about everything but the road, when I smoke and drive, I think about driving only.
 

torontoke

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What about people like myself who truly become more focused on Cannabis? I drive better when "Stoned" I am not just making that up to sound cool, I truly drive better when I have medicated. If I wake up do not smoke and go out and drive, I think about everything but the road, when I smoke and drive, I think about driving only.
I'm often unable to physically drive without smoking first but I wasn't even going to try to explain that.
I think it is different for everyone and no rule or test will ever be perfect for everyone
 

TheRealDman

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Three Barrels.8-)

Each Barrel is marked Apples , Oranges, and Mixed (apples and oranges) on the side.
Now...
All the Barrels have been mixed up and each no longer has in it what it says on the side.

Problem.


How do you figure out what fruit is in what Barrel if you can only stick your hand in one of the barrels one time.

(:
They're all mixed apples & oranges?
 

The Hippy

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But they only put a nice little sticker on the oxy's and perks.....Hey you be all fucked up buddy...
I know folks who drive everyday on those little suckers.
Between cell phones...nav systems....DVD' players .....integrated messaging .....Wifi ...in cars.
Well the whole world is distracted....to me the weed is a small part of the roads problems we have.
What about the cop dick who types and speed.....and my weed is an issue.....Fur fark sakes jake
 

Gmack420

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i think you shouldnt drive impared on anything
whether that be prescription pills, alcohol , weed, or shrooms.
this also includes elderly age imho.

to me it isnt about what is safer or less impaired so much as its just you shouldnt drive if you put others at risk due to something you have put into your body and system that causes even a bit of impairment.
Responsibility is key when driving and its right not a privilege.

thats just my two cents on the matter. the roads should be free to be safe for all drivers.
Driving on shrooms is so fun. Highly doubt it's very dangerous lol
 

Gmack420

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if they try and restrict MJ they have to do the same to anything that can effect your ability to drive.......even smoking butts for that matter...to much sugar lol
even over the counter meds a long with that. :lol:
The list is endless when it comes to pharma shit.
Thry already have restricted everything. You can get in shit for driving under the influence of anything. Fail the roadside sobriety test and your fucked. Even being tired could flunk the test for ya.
 
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