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HydroRed

HydroRed

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I'd leave it where it is or you run the risk of getting right back to where you were. If they are eating, let em eat what they have. More nutes doesnt mean bigger better plants. Just top off with water until your next res change then run a slightly hotter mix if you feel the need. They look pretty happy where they are.
 
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stezzy

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HydroRed said:
I'd leave it where it is or you run the risk of getting right back to where you were. If they are eating, let em eat what they have. More nutes doesnt mean bigger better plants. Just top off with water until your next res change then run a slightly hotter mix if you feel the need. They look pretty happy where they are.
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stezzy

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OK red, sound's like a plan...Ithe just seem like I was seeing a Lil bit of yellowing...so I figured they might want a little more...so let me ask you this. I just did a result change on sat...say by the end of this week they eat the ppms down to 240....should I just top with plain ro water phd...or should I top with water and nutes back up to 350?
 
HydroRed

HydroRed

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Plain water until you are ready for your next res change. Like the video I posted says, you can tally how many gallons of fresh water you have topped with and when you have topped with approx 50% of your res volume is when most will change the res for new mix and start the process over again. Example: You have a 36gal res and have topped off with 18 gal of fresh water. You have now replaced 50% of your res volume with fresh water so that is when most would follow a changeout schedule. Me personally, I dont change that often but am familiar with what to look for if I develop salt buildups or a deficiency/tox creeping in or even a dirty res. Over time, you'll see what works best for you and your plants, but in the meantime I'd suggest following the "playbook".
 
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stezzy

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HydroRed said:
Plain water until you are ready for your next res change. Like the video I posted says, you can tally how many gallons of fresh water you have topped with and when you have topped with approx 50% of your res volume is when most will change the res for new mix and start the process over again. Example: You have a 36gal res and have topped off with 18 gal of fresh water. You have now replaced 50% of your res volume with fresh water so that is when most would follow a changeout schedule. Me personally, I dont change that often but am familiar with what to look for if I develop salt buildups or a deficiency/tox creeping in or even a dirty res. Over time, you'll see what works best for you and your plants, but in the meantime I'd suggest following the "playbook".
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So basically if I started with 350 nutes, and in a week it drops down to 240, I should still continue to top with just water?.so basically what would be a safe number of low nutes before my girls would start to starve? Cause I feel like when the number starts to get low they need more food?
 
HydroRed

HydroRed

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You will also lose water volume faster than the plants will eat nutrients. Thats why its important to only top with what is gone. If you see the plants have used 3 gal of water along with evaporation etc, then top with only 3 gal of fresh water. Your nute ppm drastically dropping shouldn't really be an issue with this method. You'll notice that sometimes making your plants "want" is good for them. Its like when you clone....if you are supplying them foliar feeds etc, they get comfy and wont shoot roots because they have everything they need right where they are at. Hope this makes sense.
 
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HydroRed

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lets worry about 240 if/when 240 happens. Like I said, if you follow that method of topping off the res, your nute levels shouldnt dive down. The res will lose water faster than nutriens/ppm. Yes, your ppm may flucuate (lower), but if you are doing it correctly it wont be drastically at all.
 
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stezzy

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HydroRed said:
You will also lose water volume faster than the plants will eat nutrients. Thats why its important to only top with what is gone. If you see the plants have used 3 gal of water along with evaporation etc, then top with only 3 gal of fresh water. Your nute ppm drastically dropping shouldn't really be an issue with this method. You'll notice that sometimes making your plants "want" is good for them. Its like when you clone....if you are supplying them foliar feeds etc, they get comfy and wont shoot roots because they have everything they need right where they are at. Hope this makes sense.
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Yes Red, I totally understand. .thanks
 
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stezzy

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HydroRed said:
lets worry about 240 if/when 240 happens. Like I said, if you follow that method of topping off the res, your nute levels shouldnt dive down. The res will lose water faster than nutriens/ppm. Yes, your ppm may flucuate (lower), but if you are doing it correctly it wont be drastically at all.
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Got cha, we'll that's what I will do...thanks again Red, should be blazing n no time :)...oh....yea..I forgot .. I've read on many ways to cure. ..I've tried many ways...from your opinion, what method do you use, what do you think is the best
 
HydroRed

HydroRed

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Pretty basic. The slower the dry the better the taste and smell before even going into jars. Usually takes anywhere from 5-8 days for a good drying of the buds. Once in jars, burp the jars by opening them and fluffing them around in the jar for a minute or two, then close it back up. After a week or so of doing this every day they can stay in the jars until ready to be used. Very basic, but you get the picture if you've read up on it.
 
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Illinois Enema Bandit

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HydroRed said:
Do you need to use calmag with ro water?
-Yes. RO water doesnt contain cal/mag. Most 3 part nutrient lines cover this for basics though. You can always add if needed on top of a 3 part nute line.

Is 300-400 ppm OK for 7 inch plant , early stage of veg?
Since you are using RO water, this means that ppm number is all from your additions(nutes/cal/mag boost etc.)
If you have good roots established and 4-5 nodes then it should be good at that ppm. If the leaf tips begin to yellow...dial the nutes back.

How to fix clawing at the tips of plant?
Clawing is usually one result of too much N and is usually seen along with dark green leaves. Be sure not to mistake wilt or droop for "claw".
Cut back on the nitrogen (grow/veg nutrient)

Do I leave my pump and chiller running at night or can i shut it off until lights on?
I dont have much experience in this area since I'm not a summer time grower, but would imagine it to be controlled by a thermostat?
It should cut off when the desired temp is reached. Not sure what kind of chiller you have so....

When plants drink up water and nutes, do I top with plain water or water and nutes?
You have to monitor how much nutrient it is taking up with the water. If it isnt taking up nutrients with the water(which is evident in ppm spikes) then you dont want to add back anything but water since thats all the plant is using.

If I top with nutes and water how do I raise it just a little, do I add more poms then original or less?
This goes with the last question as well. If the plants are calling for more nutrients and water, then you mix just what was taken by figuring out your measurements per gallon and how many gallons are used from the res that you will be replacing.
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just wanted to 2nd every last word of this post,this guy gave you absolute spot on expert advice on every question

until u get a feel 4 your grow & the system down pat just stick with plain water for topping off the res,most of us who've been at it for years just use plain water for topping off,if your plants are drinking more than say 30% of the res between res changes your better off decreasing the days between res changes & starting out with a perfect mix than you are by adding nutes and end up causing lock out by stacking uneaten nutes
 
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stezzy

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HydroRed said:
Pretty basic. The slower the dry the better the taste and smell before even going into jars. Usually takes anywhere from 5-8 days for a good drying of the buds. Once in jars, burp the jars by opening them and fluffing them around in the jar for a minute or two, then close it back up. After a week or so of doing this every day they can stay in the jars until ready to be used. Very basic, but you get the picture if you've read up on it.
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Hey hey...Hydro red, what's going on man...it's been like what 2 weeks since we talked??
 
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