i have a pro grow 400 and its been working great for these first 4 weeks. new growth every time i leave for work and come back 9 hours later. i could def say after a week i was like huh? but then it started shooting new sites and getting pretty tall now. only about six inches at week 4 but this is literally my first time ever growing so im just doing my best
Hydroponic huts pro grow 400w led?
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newworldicon
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I am probably one of the first people to use progrow panels on this forum, I have also put up a thread about a 2 years ago regarding my bad experiences with Ben and my PG550 panel, at the time their flagship panel.
Stay away, you will regret it.
Hi Sensi,
Im in the market for LED as well & was wondering what you thought about the hydro hut? In this post someone mentioned they weren't legit which I find strange because there's plenty of positive reviews out there. Reading these forums you get the impression that if you are not using A51 or Apollo then God help you
One of their criticism is that unlike some other brands they hide their exact spectrum - but this isn't necessarily to deceive anyone I don't think, maybe they just can't be bothered with all the inquiries & comments from 'fanatical' ganja growers I read they actually make lights for medical cannabis people & I would think that most medical users aren't at all interested in the exact colour of their spectrum so why bother. What matters is final yield to most people. Of course I might be completely wrong about them, but In any case im curious to know if your happy with hydro hut or if you wish you went with another brand?
cityworker415
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I have a 260x that is strangely not available on their website anymore. 240 watt selectable switches although I don't use them unless I have very small plants. I've had 3 complete grows under it two of them went awesome one did not hardly the lights fault. The light so far is still functioning with no degradation in wattage draw or output in Lux which I measure with my smartphone. The only complaint and I do mean only is that tiny tiny small footprint. For 240 watts it's a very intense focus and I find myself hanging from the ceiling instead of down above the plants like the rest of the lights. Hope it helps good luck keep it safe
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Positive reviews can be found for any light. For overpriced lights (like Hydro Hut, Cali Lightworks, et. al.) we can't know causation unless there is a side-by-side grow. What I mean is, someone who would spend $900 on a light will probably apply a similar dedication to their grow environment, pest control, ph, etc.
To me, I believe overpriced hyped lights can produce good results. But, are the results worth the extra cost? For example, a previous poster said they pulled 200g off two plants. I got 180g off a single autoflower using two Blackstar 130w (85w actual) UFOs in a 2x4 tent (for two plants, perpetual grow).
There's so many variables. I don't think yield is definitive proof. Not from one grow anyway.
You can test your theory by calling Hydro Hut and asking for the spectrum and ratio. When I've called similar high-priced brands asking for that information, I got the run-around about how it's proprietary information, competitors would kill for it, etc. That's when I knew it's "secret sauce" hyperbole. Any competitor who would kill for Hydro Hut's spectrum/ratio would simply buy a light and interrogate it with a $3k spectrometer. Once a light leaves Hydro Hut's possession, it's hardly a "secret" any more. Therefore, all they're doing is making it harder for the average consumer to assess what they are being asked to spend $900 for.they hide their exact spectrum - but this isn't necessarily to deceive anyone I don't think, maybe they just can't be bothered with all the inquiries & comments from 'fanatical' ganja growers
High price and secrecy, to me, equates to buying speculation.
But, call and ask for yourself. Maybe they'll give you the details. Let us know.
The light you linked to on AliExpress is $145 for 300w (max, 3w x 100 pcs). The same basic light (orig Mars I, 3w x 100 pcs, white backboard, no reflector) can be purchased from TopLED for $127. Is there something which causes you to choose the light you linked to?
I like their relatively broad spectrum, and that they publish exact ratio information. TopLED doesn't do that. I have no idea what their spectrum is. I guess you've found this spectrum works good?
I wouldn't mind blowing $125-$150 on a 2x2 light (or UFO) just to get more experience with different spectrum, have a backup, etc. How long do yours last?
medicinehuman
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I have a PRO GROW 260 and I hate to say it but it was outdone by a cheap Joy hydro grow 240. Neither one was any good IMO. I tried to sell it cheap on craigslist and there were no takers. It is collecting dust now so is the Joy. $450 is what I got took for. Hope you have better luck.
Thanks AZ for the input & what you say makes complete sense. Regarding colour spect, if hydro hut emailed me this info how would I know if it was good or not so what's the point really? like you say many variables are in play here & it seems the only way you can compare is by yourself in your own environment which is completely unpractical.Positive reviews can be found for any light. For overpriced lights (like Hydro Hut, Cali Lightworks, et. al.) we can't know causation unless there is a side-by-side grow. What I mean is, someone who would spend $900 on a light will probably apply a similar dedication to their grow environment, pest control, ph, etc.
To me, I believe overpriced hyped lights can produce good results. But, are the results worth the extra cost? For example, a previous poster said they pulled 200g off two plants. I got 180g off a single autoflower using two Blackstar 130w (85w actual) UFOs in a 2x4 tent (for two plants, perpetual grow).
There's so many variables. I don't think yield is definitive proof. Not from one grow anyway.
You can test your theory by calling Hydro Hut and asking for the spectrum and ratio. When I've called similar high-priced brands asking for that information, I got the run-around about how it's proprietary information, competitors would kill for it, etc. That's when I knew it's "secret sauce" hyperbole. Any competitor who would kill for Hydro Hut's spectrum/ratio would simply buy a light and interrogate it with a $3k spectrometer. Once a light leaves Hydro Hut's possession, it's hardly a "secret" any more. Therefore, all they're doing is making it harder for the average consumer to assess what they are being asked to spend $900 for.
High price and secrecy, to me, equates to buying speculation.
But, call and ask for yourself. Maybe they'll give you the details. Let us know.
Also not sure if blackstar is much cheaper than hydro though, actually if we compare models in terms of 3'x3' coverage blackstar's chrome 270w is $550 & hydro hut's pro grow 400 is $550 also. I know you can buy blackstar from different seller's so prices can be better. What concerns me though with blackstar is that I don't know who actually makes them? im in the market for LED so im very happy to spend less however I would rather pay a little extra for something that will work & will last for years. The website growweedeasy did a grow with hydro hut & they highly recommended it without even mentioning the spect. Other brands im looking at are vipar & grownorthern, I think the latter have been in the game for years & are highly regarded in the LED world...is that right?
If I email hydro again I'll be sure to ask them for the colour spect & see what runaround they give me
I guess the answer is, if it's so trivial, why wouldn't they tell you?
Sorry. I wasn't trying to pitch Blackstar. I actually classify it among the inflated Chinese lights. (Pay a premium for someone to do your thinking for you.). They were my first lights.
My point was that anecdotal yields are just that.
I like Grow Northern because they publish their ratio spectrum (for old-style Cidly) and actual part numbers (for their newer Rebel module). I prefer whiter lights like A51, Astir, Onyx. But, the Rebel is their third progression toward whiter light and is fairly white looking at it.
Hey buddy, I think grow northern will have new stock in Aug. You seem knowledgeable with LED, what would you recommend for a grow tent up to 100x100cm?