Hydroponic Vs Soil, Shocking

ArabKush

Active Member
the hydro is mine the other is my friend's,
i never thought the difference is that big,,

i post these pics so everyone can really see the difference and compare , your the judge ..

check it out


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lighting

New Member
looks like different strain
There is a difference between growth rate and yield. Just because something grows faster does not mean it will yield more when all is said and done.

Having greater aromatics is a matter of opinion and relative to growing skill and methods. When done correctly, organic soil grows can produce buds that smell just as strong as those grown hydroponically. Hydro-grown plants do tend to have a slightly faster growth rate, but to state that they definitively yield more is a bit misleading.

The reason that some switch to organic soil is because they didn't see enough difference in either growth or anything else to warrant the need for all of the monitoring and expensive meters and nutrients required in hydro- or aeroponic systems. The only provable plus to hydroponics is growth rate. One should also consider the potential chemical aftertaste in the flavour of buds, extreme susceptibility to over/under fertilization, very high initial investment, many things to break and clog, etc.

If grown in a nice airy organic soil mix and watered with good organic amendments, growth enhancers and beneficial fungi (mycorrhizae), you will easily compete with that of a hydroponic system. Your end result will be full flavored, non-chemical tasting buds.

Bottom line - unless you are obsessed with fittings, toys and technology (and many are), organics can grow nearly as fast, just as big (if not bigger), better tasting and IMHO more potent buds. And they do this with very little initial investment and are more forgiving of newbie mistakes. This isn't to say you won't find absolutely supurb hydroponically grown marijuana, but since we feel most visitors reading our FAQ will be beginners, we would like to lean towards recommending methods best suited for beginners.

There is a difference between growth rate and yield. Just because something grows faster does not mean it will yield more when all is said and done.

Having greater aromatics is a matter of opinion and relative to growing skill and methods. When done correctly, organic soil grows can produce buds that smell just as strong as those grown hydroponically. Hydro-grown plants do tend to have a slightly faster growth rate, but to state that they definitively yield more is a bit misleading.

The reason that some switch to organic soil is because they didn't see enough difference in either growth or anything else to warrant the need for all of the monitoring and expensive meters and nutrients required in hydro- or aeroponic systems. The only provable plus to hydroponics is growth rate. One should also consider the potential chemical aftertaste in the flavour of buds, extreme susceptibility to over/under fertilization, very high initial investment, many things to break and clog, etc.

If grown in a nice airy organic soil mix and watered with good organic amendments, growth enhancers and beneficial fungi (mycorrhizae), you will easily compete with that of a hydroponic system. Your end result will be full flavored, non-chemical tasting buds.

Bottom line - unless you are obsessed with fittings, toys and technology (and many are), organics can grow nearly as fast, just as big (if not bigger), better tasting and IMHO more potent buds. And they do this with very little initial investment and are more forgiving of newbie mistakes. This isn't to say you won't find absolutely supurb hydroponically grown marijuana, but since we feel most visitors reading our FAQ will be beginners, we would like to lean towards recommending methods best suited for beginners.
 

Total Head

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this doesn't prove a whole lot, i'm afraid. as others have mentioned, growing from seed, even the same strain, does not utilize identical genetics.

also, i'm assuming you both used different nutes, as not many nute lines are suited for both soil and hydro. there was no mention of either setup, lights, fans, temps, or any of that.

even assuming that hydro grows faster than soil (which i think most of us are in agreement that it generally does), those pictures say nothing of the taste and general experience of smoking the finished product, which for me is the true test. again, if they're not the same pheno of the same strain, even a taste test is worthless as a comparison.
 

dabumps

Well-Known Member
PS! WHY HASN'T ANYONE DONE A SIDE BY SIDE REPORT WITH ONE DIRT AND ONE HYDRO AND BOTH CLONES? I would sub to it! Then a smoke report from the grower and a small panel! I was thinking about switching to hydro but IDK I would also like a small description of all the different hydro systems!
 

Vindicated

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Green House Seed Co has good side by side grows of soil vs hydroponics on YouTube. It's pretty establish that indoors in a controlled environment that hydro yields more. But that doesn't mean it's the best. I still prefer organics grown outdoors. Just like I prefer organic almond milk over cowmilk. It's more work which is why it cost more, but the end results are better for the environment and for my own health.
 

ArabKush

Active Member
Same strain?
looks like different strain.
same strain? same nutes? same amount of light?
how old ???? lol

you are right guys, the hydro is white widow x bigbud, the soil is a free seed called vintage , both from attitude, both are frenzied they are at the same age , the second pic though the soil is 2 days older, we use the same lights just one 55w cfl, and we both have hid setup for flowering, and yes we use same nutes its the only thing around in our country, and the nutes we use is this phostrogen All Purpose Plant Food, they claim on their website that it works for soil and hydro, and it does , this is my second hydro grow , the first one happened to be a male, and it grew much faster than this , maybe it had more of a sativa , this looks more like indica, all other conditions are the same , we made both setups together,


this doesn't prove a whole lot, i'm afraid. as others have mentioned, growing from seed, even the same strain, does not utilize identical genetics.

also, i'm assuming you both used different nutes, as not many nute lines are suited for both soil and hydro. there was no mention of either setup, lights, fans, temps, or any of that.

even assuming that hydro grows faster than soil (which i think most of us are in agreement that it generally does), those pictures say nothing of the taste and general experience of smoking the finished product, which for me is the true test. again, if they're not the same pheno of the same strain, even a taste test is worthless as a comparison.
this is my first female hydro i never tested a hydro bud smoke, i guess i have to wait and see, we did soil grow before, northern lights and blue cheese, we cured it properly , but still i used to feel heat when smoking especially the blue cheese, i guess soil can never be flushed 100%, i thought with hydro i can , and i hope it would taste better,

PS! WHY HASN'T ANYONE DONE A SIDE BY SIDE REPORT WITH ONE DIRT AND ONE HYDRO AND BOTH CLONES? I would sub to it! Then a smoke report from the grower and a small panel! I was thinking about switching to hydro but IDK I would also like a small description of all the different hydro systems!
i always search for such a thing, but you won't find many, as Vindicated mentioned
you can check this video its amazing http://www.growhd.tv/video/The-Church-grow-video/72a33ba010c1785dc25dd12e5195ad46
if you need more info about hydro watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De5AQ_7PgO4

Green House Seed Co has good side by side grows of soil vs hydroponics on YouTube. It's pretty establish that indoors in a controlled environment that hydro yields more. But that doesn't mean it's the best. I still prefer organics grown outdoors. Just like I prefer organic almond milk over cowmilk. It's more work which is why it cost more, but the end results are better for the environment and for my own health.
i shifted to hydro i have priority for speed and yield, and no soil bugs






this is where my plant is at i already put it under my MH400w, plant sprouted on 3rd may , the pictures are from today 26 may, so total age would be 23days


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ru4r34l

Well-Known Member
this doesn't prove a whole lot, i'm afraid. as others have mentioned, growing from seed, even the same strain, does not utilize identical genetics.

also, i'm assuming you both used different nutes, as not many nute lines are suited for both soil and hydro. there was no mention of either setup, lights, fans, temps, or any of that.

even assuming that hydro grows faster than soil (which i think most of us are in agreement that it generally does), those pictures say nothing of the taste and general experience of smoking the finished product, which for me is the true test. again, if they're not the same pheno of the same strain, even a taste test is worthless as a comparison.
Now that the secrets are out, you are right this little experiment will not prove/disprove any myth between soil vs hydro.

The final product is what you need to compare not the speed of growth or size of the plant, hydro get's out the gate faster but an experienced grower will finish in soil with comparable product to that grown hydroponically.

regards,
 

Nitegazer

Well-Known Member
I've often wondered if the claims of soil tasting better than hydro applies less to vaping. No combustion with vaping, so I assume most of the diff between soil/hydro would be irrelevant.
 

TheDuder

Active Member
Looking up the scientific method and following it, is proper. It's hard to count on results of an experiment with many variables, and much inexperience. Those that would have interest in such an experiment would probably only trust consistency in technique, including myself. Starting from seed, and different strains is a fail from the beginning. If you can manage to start from clones from an identical mother, use identical: lights, nutrients, pot size, ppm levels, ph levels,and training techniques, etc... the experiment would be interesting; though, where is the grower that would doubt the superiority of hydro? Or, the superior taste from organic soil and nutrients? These facts are not in contention except were a novice speaks folly.

Proper experimentation requires the removal of all variables except those being tested, in your case, soil vs. hydro. In your experiment the only variable should be the growing medium. While everything else remains constant.

-Dude'r
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
Green House Seed Co has good side by side grows of soil vs hydroponics on YouTube. It's pretty establish that indoors in a controlled environment that hydro yields more. But that doesn't mean it's the best. I still prefer organics grown outdoors. Just like I prefer organic almond milk over cowmilk. It's more work which is why it cost more, but the end results are better for the environment and for my own health.
Outdoor growing is not necessarily better for your health. As you say, it is less controlled.
 

ru4r34l

Well-Known Member
Green House Seed Co has good side by side grows of soil vs hydroponics on YouTube. It's pretty establish that indoors in a controlled environment that hydro yields more. But that doesn't mean it's the best. I still prefer organics grown outdoors. Just like I prefer organic almond milk over cowmilk. It's more work which is why it cost more, but the end results are better for the environment and for my own health.
Missed this quote last time

I am not sure how you equate outdoors farming as better for the enviornment, when growing hydroponically is far more earth friendly than conventional outdoor growing (COG); hydro growing uses 70% to 90% LESS water than (COG). hydro elimates the fertilizer runoff escaping into lakes, and rivers; plus and plus for hydro I think.

Looking up the scientific method and following it, is proper. It's hard to count on results of an experiment with many variables, and much inexperience. Those that would have interest in such an experiment would probably only trust consistency in technique, including myself. Starting from seed, and different strains is a fail from the beginning. If you can manage to start from clones from an identical mother, use identical: lights, nutrients, pot size, ppm levels, ph levels,and training techniques, etc... the experiment would be interesting; though, where is the grower that would doubt the superiority of hydro? Or, the superior taste from organic soil and nutrients? These facts are not in contention except were a novice speaks folly.

Proper experimentation requires the removal of all variables except those being tested, in your case, soil vs. hydro. In your experiment the only variable should be the growing medium. While everything else remains constant.

-Dude'r
That would be I who contests those myths :eek:, as I mentioned above EXPERIENCED growers should be able to provide the same quality and quantity of product grown hydroponically period!
disclaimer: All other things being equal.

regards,
 

bird mcbride

Well-Known Member
Regardless of whether it's dirt or hydro taste is determined on what you do after you chop your plants. A good hydro system setup and working properly is the easiest way to go as far as tending your crop goes.
 

chrishydro

Well-Known Member
I dont know about hydro v soil because so many dif variables. Pot size, type of soil, lighting etc. I all hydro and swear by it but have buddies that are all soil and their plants do fine. I like it because it is clean and I build them myself so I make it as easy as posible to flush and clean the res.

With that said I grow tons of veggies and tropical flowers outside in pots and in the ground and they are all fantastic.

Bottom line it is the grower that makes it work. Research, care and insect prevention are the real key.
 
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