I. Am. Noob. Please help.

BlazingWombat

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word... and now the moment we've all been waiting for... i've finally gotten my camera working!

Ladies and Gentlemen... this is my 6 week old white rhino plant... she's been through some hardtimes as this is my first AG grow but i think she's come along nicely...
Again... shes 6 weeks tomorrow. :bigjoint:
 

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purpdaddy

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word... and now the moment we've all been waiting for... i've finally gotten my camera working!

Ladies and Gentlemen... this is my 6 week old white rhino plant... she's been through some hardtimes as this is my first AG grow but i think she's come along nicely...
Again... shes 6 weeks tomorrow. :bigjoint:
been time to start flower uh?and i suggest you get wayyyy more cfls bro!
 

BlazingWombat

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yeah... should i get a bunch of them or just like 2 more powerful bulbs? I just picked up another 100w CFL bulb today... gotta get a housing... any suggestions??
What do you think though?? I think they look pretty nice... for stretched out plants anyway...

Thanks for the advice duder.
-Wombat
 

purpdaddy

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yea they look real good for strtchy plants! get a couple more cfls cause you gonna need 10,000 lumens or close to that during flower and these lumens from all cfls dont add.!start flower at 12/12
 

SlickRickMcgee

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Your plant looks good. I think you should try to stuff as much light in your area as possible. That seems to be the case with the successful grows I've looked at on the site. Good luck!:lol:
 

purpdaddy

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Your plant looks good. I think you should try to stuff as much light in your area as possible. That seems to be the case with the successful grows I've looked at on the site. Good luck!:lol:
yea.you cant have too much light,but you can have a heat issue with all the lights unless u regulate that or dont have those probs.Heat will bring a number of probs! 76 D.F.-78 D.F. is ideal.
 

BlazingWombat

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Excellent... thanks guys. I'll check out some new lights and see whats good. Gotta find some money first though...
any suggestions on exactly what bulbs to get? something that doesn't get too hot and doesn't use a butt-load of power??
 

BlazingWombat

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Ok... I was looking at CFL's online at home depot. The most powerful CFL I can find only gives 1200 lumens... I can't fit 10 of em in my closet... do I really need 10,000 lumens?? Are there more powerful bulbs anywhere?
 

purpdaddy

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Ok... I was looking at CFL's online at home depot. The most powerful CFL I can find only gives 1200 lumens... I can't fit 10 of em in my closet... do I really need 10,000 lumens?? Are there more powerful bulbs anywhere?

just to a Loes or sumthin.i always used the 150w. replacements,think its 4500-4900 lumens and i just used them,(Alot of them) with the Ag upgrade hood and the other BASIC hood hanging from the side.So i had that bitch lit up. Go HID.Thats what im waitin on now to comw in the mail.

check this..

Lumens Per Square Foot
To determine how many lumens per square foot you have, find out the square footage of your space by multiplying the width and depth. Divide the lumens available by your square footage. This will give you lumens per square foot. For example, say your space is 3 feet deep by 4 feet wide, for a total of 12 square feet. The total lumens available from your light(s) is 45,000 lumens, which means you have 3,750 lumens per square foot.
Light Do I Need?
Technology has advanced so much in the last 15 years that we are constantly refining the process and updating what we know works best for growing. Current theory holds that the minimum amount of lighting needed to sustain growth is around 2,000 lumens per square foot. Mid range is around 5,000 lumens per square foot. Optimal is 7,000 to 7,500 or higher lumens per square foot.
 
How much light is needed for growing?

The answer depends on if you are growing small plants, in a small space, or large plants, and have a larger space to grow in. I'll try to answer this "in general" instead of being specific to one size plant.
Light seen and perceived with the human eye is measured in Lumens. There is an ideal amount of lumens for growing and a minimum amount of lumens. The very minimum amount of light required for smaller sized plants grown in the SH System is around 3000 lumens per square foot. Let me put emphasis on "minimum amount" of light. However, that's not 100% exactly accurate, since although you may have a 10,000 lumen light, the amount of light that reaches the plant varies with the distance between the light and plants, and the reflectivity of the grow area. The ideal amount is somewhere around 7000-10,000 lumens per square foot for average sized plants. As long as the plants do not show burn, as much light can be used as you want to use. (Note, the sun produces about 10,000 lumens per square foot, on a sunny mid summer day).

Determining lumens for your grow area:
First determine the square footage of your area (example in a 4 foot by 4 foot area, there is 16 square feet) If you have a 1000 Watt High Pressure Sodium Light Bulb, that produces approximately 107,000 lumens. Divide this by 16 (your square footage) 107,000 divided by 16 = 6687 lumens per square foot. So just divide the total amount of Lumens, by the total amount of square feet, and that's your lumens per square foot.

How far away from my plants do the lights go?
The lights in your grow room should be as close as possible to the plants without burning them. There is no such thing as too much light, unless there is overly sufficient heat to dry out and burn the leaves. A good rule is to put your hand under the light, if its too hot for your hand, chances are that the plants will be too hot too, so move the light up until your hand feels more comfortable. For seedlings or sprouts, I keep them a little further away from the light, because they are very susceptible to burning and drying out, at these young stages.

How do I decide which lights to use?
Efficiency is very important when choosing a type of light. The wattage is not the most important thing, different types of light produce different amounts of lumens per watt. For example, a 300 watt incandescent will produce about 5100 lumens. (not that you can grow with incandescent bulbs) While a 300 watt Metal Halide (just an example, they do not come in 300 watts), will produce 27,000 lumens. Obviously far more efficient for growing, while still using the same amount of electricity.

Approximate light production:
Incandescents: 17 lumens/watt
Mercury vapor: 45-50 lumens/watt
Fluorescents: 60-70 lumens/watt
Metal halide: 90 lumens/watt
High pressure sodium: 107 lumens/watt


Incandescent lights: Incandescent bulbs are the most popular type of lights in the world. They may come advertised as incandescent, tungsten, quartz, halogen, or simply standard. The important thing about incandescent bulbs when it come to growing is simply this: they suck. Using incandescent bulbs to grow plants is like trying to flag down the Space Challenger with a burnt out match! You can do it, but it won't work. There are some incandescents which are sold as "grow lights." They usually have a blue coating and usually come in 60W and 120W sizes. While they may seem like a good choice to new growers, they are next to useless; they produce some light at a usable spectrum, but only have about a 5% efficiency and generate more heat than usable light. Most of us have these in our homes right now. Don't use them for growing, instead opt for a Compact Fluorescent as a cheaper but more efficient alternative.

Fluorescent lights: Fluorescents are far more useful than incandescents. They are efficient enough, and much less expensive than HID (High Intensity Discharge) lights. Compact fluorescent tubes, (commonly called CFLs) are popular with growers because of their good output to size ratio. Compared to standard 4 foot tubes, CFLs are smaller, more easily moved, and more can fit into a smaller given area. CFLs are good for small grows on a tight budget, and for novice growers, since they do not require any special sort of wiring or understanding of the necessary bulbs for a given fixture, and the small wattage ones (23, 42 and 65) are very widely available. Fluorescent lights come in many different Kelvin (spectrum or color) ratings; often the spectrums are labeled on packaging as being 'cool white' or 'warm white.' Cool white is more blue, and is good for the vegetative stages of growth. The bulbs are ultra white. Warm white light is more reddish in spectrum, and is best for the flowering stage. The bulbs are almost cream colored.

Color rating - Measured in Kelvin (K). The higher the number, the more bluish the light. 4000K-7000K is mostly on the blue side of the spectrum for Vegging or GROWING, while 3000K and under goes from a white spectrum, to a redder spectrum and is best for BLOOMING or FLOWERING.


High Intensity Discharge (HID) Lighting Systems:

Mercury Vapor (MV)
Mercury vapor lights are not the most efficient light for growing. They are very bright, and relatively cheap. They do emit light at the wavelengths necessary to support your plants growth, but not nearly as good as a MH or HPS light. Much of the light emitted by MV lights is bluish-white. Street lighting is what most MV lighting is used for.

Metal Halide (MH)
Metal halide lighting systems are optimal for use in the vegetative phase of growing. They emit mostly blue light, which encourages vigorous growth of foliage. They are very efficient, but can get rather expensive to start with; fluorescents may seem more appealing because of their lower price, and they are not much different when compared on a lumen-to-lumen cost level. These lights can be used through-out the grow, but leave a lot to be desired in the BLOOM stage.

High Pressure Sodium (HPS)
High pressure sodium lights emit mostly orange, yellow, and red spectrum light, which is perfect for the flowering stage of the plants growth. They are (in my opinion) the most efficient type of light available for any application if you are not on a budget and can vent the grow area for heat. HPS lights can be used through-out the entire grow. They produce more dense and usually larger flowers or fruit than any other light. HPS lights are generally a little more expensive than MH systems of similar wattage. They are more commonly used by experienced commercial growers because of their ability to produce tighter denser flowers, higher lumen-output-per-watt, and will produce from start to finish.

Just like everything else, available grow lights are evolving. Remember how the sun produces 10,000 lumens per square foot in the mid-summer. Well, today 3 105 watt CFLs in a good reflector can actually duplicate those lumens with CFLs. If you can not grow under the sun, then bring the sun inside. Yes, you can have 20,000 lumens covering the entire grow space of one of the SH systems now with their new 105 watt per bulb CFLs. Three of these bulbs in the proper reflector actually yields 20,000 lumens.
Comparing prices to lumens, and sticking to CFLS, you can not do any better.
I always want to repeat that HID lights are much much better for growing, but they cost more and produce much more heat. CFLs are good for small grows on a tight budget, and for novice growers, since they do not require any special sort of wiring or understanding of the necessary bulbs for a given fixture, and the small wattage ones (23, 42 and 65) are very widely available, even at Walley World, Lows and Home Depot.
You can run
hps light through both stages of growth (ok).
mh light through both stages of growth (ok).
run a mh light through the veg phase of growth followed by hps light through flowering (very good).
run both mh and hps light through both stages of growth (best).
When given the choice of only one light, most marijuana growers will choose an hps grow light over mh, because hps lights are more efficient (larger harvest).
You can't use a standard high pressure sodium bulb in a metal halide fixture, but you can use a metal halide bulb in a high pressure sodium fixture of the same wattage.
There are special hps bulbs that can be used in a mh fixture and vice-versa. But these conversion bulbs cost about double the price of a standard bulb.
A 250 watt fixture will supply enough light to cover a 2.5 foot by 2.5 foot grow area. (6 plants or less)
A 400 watt fixture will supply enough light to cover a 4 foot by 4 foot grow area. (12 plants or less)
A 600 watt fixture will supply enough light to cover a 5 foot by 5 foot grow area. (18 plants or less)
A 1000 watt fixture will supply enough light to cover a 6.5 foot by 6.5 foot grow area. (30 plants or less)
In order for the heat produced by a light system not to harm the plant, a 250 watt light system should be started 18 to 30 inches above the tops of the plants, a 400 watt light system should be started 3 to 4 feet above the tops of the plants
Whatever your light source, replace bulbs after 6 to 12 months of use. If the light is on 24 hours a day replace it after 6 months. If the light is on 18 hours a day replace it after 9 months. If the light is on 12 hours a day replace it after 12 months.
The hydroponic system is working and the plants have two or more sets of leaves. Remove the fluorescent lighting then install and adjust the height of your metal halide or high pressure sodium fixture.
When you first start the metal halide or high pressure sodium light the distance from the top of the plants to the light source should be started at the following height and lowered daily until you find an optimal distance:
18 to 30 inches for 250 watt light
3 to 4 feet for 400 watt light
4 to 5 feet for 600 watt light
5 to 6 feet for 1000 watt light
 
 
 
what you want to do is wait for the pistils to get at least 70% color change...then hit up the local radioshack where u can purchase a microscope for about 11 dollars...take this back home pick off a mature bud...put it under the microscope when 90% of the trichs are cloudy you should harvest...at least tahts what i do...and at 90% you are most likely going to get a couchlock (dosent matter how you write it)
 

SlickRickMcgee

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Awesome man... thanks a lot. Now i just gotta read through all of that!
If your worried about heat and energy usage and heat footprint, which I was, then you could try LED light. I'm trying one and also the AG for the first time. I've never grown anything before, but it seems to work. I'm using cfls too. I'm trying to cover all color spectrums so I'm combing. The energy usage for the last 2 months for my set-up appears to be extremely minimal, probably pulls less energy than a 32" TV left on the same amount of time. The negative to LED grows is that the yeild will be less for sure. Check my grow if your interested in what they look like. The prices have come down since I got mine. I think they are $350 now, but the life of the light is 10,000 hrs which blows the older light tech away.
 

purpdaddy

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If your worried about heat and energy usage and heat footprint, which I was, then you could try LED light. I'm trying one and also the AG for the first time. I've never grown anything before, but it seems to work. I'm using cfls too. I'm trying to cover all color spectrums so I'm combing. The energy usage for the last 2 months for my set-up appears to be extremely minimal, probably pulls less energy than a 32" TV left on the same amount of time. The negative to LED grows is that the yeild will be less for sure. Check my grow if your interested in what they look like. The prices have come down since I got mine. I think they are $350 now, but the life of the light is 10,000 hrs which blows the older light tech away.
man ive read on a site and saw the difference in this new led lighting setup vs. hid lighting, and as the pics showed as the weeks progressed the led setup was doing just as good as the hids..The leds use hardly ANY energy. when i talk to him again ill get the web address..or just google L.E.D. lighting Vs. H.I.D. lighting.
 

SlickRickMcgee

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man ive read on a site and saw the difference in this new led lighting setup vs. hid lighting, and as the pics showed as the weeks progressed the led setup was doing just as good as the hids..The leds use hardly ANY energy. when i talk to him again ill get the web address..or just google L.E.D. lighting Vs. H.I.D. lighting.
Cool, if you find the link please post it up. The grows of HID vs LED I've seen show the LED taking usually 2 weeks longer and yeilding less, but the one comparison showed more grams per kilowatt hr. or something like that. Here is the link, it's the same LED I'm using. 2 more years they will be cheaper and probably even better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CtROw3uiVg
 

purpdaddy

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:joint:
Cool, if you find the link please post it up. The grows of HID vs LED I've seen show the LED taking usually 2 weeks longer and yeilding less, but the one comparison showed more grams per kilowatt hr. or something like that. Here is the link, it's the same LED I'm using. 2 more years they will be cheaper and probably even better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CtROw3uiVg
yea they really startin to upgrade these grow leds.I beleive they will be the future choice of lighting for growers!!:joint:
 

BlazingWombat

Active Member
Ok guys... I read that each AG bulb is 4,200 lumens... so thats 8,400... i just added two 150 watt CFL at 2800 lumens a pop (5600 total)... bringing the grand total to 14000 lumens...
Is that right?? If so... here we go! The time i've been waiting for! 12/12!
 

purpdaddy

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Ok guys... I read that each AG bulb is 4,200 lumens... so thats 8,400... i just added two 150 watt CFL at 2800 lumens a pop (5600 total)... bringing the grand total to 14000 lumens...
Is that right?? If so... here we go! The time i've been waiting for! 12/12!
not to piss on ur parade,but LUMENS/LUX ,dont add. what does add is the intensity of the light such as HID lighting,but you can add enough cfls
to get nice size colas! this just an example.and these lights are necessary
 

BlazingWombat

Active Member
Ok... damn... ummm... so what exactly are those?? they look exactly like mine... I have two for one plant... it looks like there are 9 i can see in that picture for what... 5 plants?? so thats roughly two per plant... which is what I have...

Does this mean i need bulbs that emit 10,000 lumens a piece? if not, what does they don't "add" mean? Sorry... I guess I just don't get it... lighting has never been my thing.
 

purpdaddy

Well-Known Member
Ok... damn... ummm... so what exactly are those?? they look exactly like mine... I have two for one plant... it looks like there are 9 i can see in that picture for what... 5 plants?? so thats roughly two per plant... which is what I have...

Does this mean i need bulbs that emit 10,000 lumens a piece? if not, what does they don't "add" mean? Sorry... I guess I just don't get it... lighting has never been my thing.
meaning,you can add as many cfls as you want. the lumen OUTPUT is say 4600-4900 for the 150w. replacements.I can add as many bulbs as i want they only put out a certain amount of lumens and thats there discharge and the lumens wont add,You have to have a bulb with a strong enough LUMEN OUTPUT to ADD lumens. here......

Lumens Per Square Foot
To determine how many lumens per square foot you have, find out the square footage of your space by multiplying the width and depth. Divide the lumens available by your square footage. This will give you lumens per square foot. For example, say your space is 3 feet deep by 4 feet wide, for a total of 12 square feet. The total lumens available from your light(s) is 45,000 lumens, which means you have 3,750 lumens per square foot.
Light Do I Need?
Technology has advanced so much in the last 15 years that we are constantly refining the process and updating what we know works best for growing. Current theory holds that the minimum amount of lighting needed to sustain growth is around 2,000 lumens per square foot. Mid range is around 5,000 lumens per square foot. Optimal is 7,000 to 7,500 or higher lumens per square foot.
 
How much light is needed for growing?

The answer depends on if you are growing small plants, in a small space, or large plants, and have a larger space to grow in. I'll try to answer this "in general" instead of being specific to one size plant.
Light seen and perceived with the human eye is measured in Lumens. There is an ideal amount of lumens for growing and a minimum amount of lumens. The very minimum amount of light required for smaller sized plants grown in the SH System is around 3000 lumens per square foot. Let me put emphasis on "minimum amount" of light. However, that's not 100% exactly accurate, since although you may have a 10,000 lumen light, the amount of light that reaches the plant varies with the distance between the light and plants, and the reflectivity of the grow area. The ideal amount is somewhere around 7000-10,000 lumens per square foot for average sized plants. As long as the plants do not show burn, as much light can be used as you want to use. (Note, the sun produces about 10,000 lumens per square foot, on a sunny mid summer day).

Determining lumens for your grow area:
First determine the square footage of your area (example in a 4 foot by 4 foot area, there is 16 square feet) If you have a 1000 Watt High Pressure Sodium Light Bulb, that produces approximately 107,000 lumens. Divide this by 16 (your square footage) 107,000 divided by 16 = 6687 lumens per square foot. So just divide the total amount of Lumens, by the total amount of square feet, and that's your lumens per square foot.

How far away from my plants do the lights go?
The lights in your grow room should be as close as possible to the plants without burning them. There is no such thing as too much light, unless there is overly sufficient heat to dry out and burn the leaves. A good rule is to put your hand under the light, if its too hot for your hand, chances are that the plants will be too hot too, so move the light up until your hand feels more comfortable. For seedlings or sprouts, I keep them a little further away from the light, because they are very susceptible to burning and drying out, at these young stages.

How do I decide which lights to use?
Efficiency is very important when choosing a type of light. The wattage is not the most important thing, different types of light produce different amounts of lumens per watt. For example, a 300 watt incandescent will produce about 5100 lumens. (not that you can grow with incandescent bulbs) While a 300 watt Metal Halide (just an example, they do not come in 300 watts), will produce 27,000 lumens. Obviously far more efficient for growing, while still using the same amount of electricity.

Approximate light production:
Incandescents: 17 lumens/watt
Mercury vapor: 45-50 lumens/watt
Fluorescents: 60-70 lumens/watt
Metal halide: 90 lumens/watt
High pressure sodium: 107 lumens/watt


Incandescent lights: Incandescent bulbs are the most popular type of lights in the world. They may come advertised as incandescent, tungsten, quartz, halogen, or simply standard. The important thing about incandescent bulbs when it come to growing is simply this: they suck. Using incandescent bulbs to grow plants is like trying to flag down the Space Challenger with a burnt out match! You can do it, but it won't work. There are some incandescents which are sold as "grow lights." They usually have a blue coating and usually come in 60W and 120W sizes. While they may seem like a good choice to new growers, they are next to useless; they produce some light at a usable spectrum, but only have about a 5% efficiency and generate more heat than usable light. Most of us have these in our homes right now. Don't use them for growing, instead opt for a Compact Fluorescent as a cheaper but more efficient alternative.

Fluorescent lights: Fluorescents are far more useful than incandescents. They are efficient enough, and much less expensive than HID (High Intensity Discharge) lights. Compact fluorescent tubes, (commonly called CFLs) are popular with growers because of their good output to size ratio. Compared to standard 4 foot tubes, CFLs are smaller, more easily moved, and more can fit into a smaller given area. CFLs are good for small grows on a tight budget, and for novice growers, since they do not require any special sort of wiring or understanding of the necessary bulbs for a given fixture, and the small wattage ones (23, 42 and 65) are very widely available. Fluorescent lights come in many different Kelvin (spectrum or color) ratings; often the spectrums are labeled on packaging as being 'cool white' or 'warm white.' Cool white is more blue, and is good for the vegetative stages of growth. The bulbs are ultra white. Warm white light is more reddish in spectrum, and is best for the flowering stage. The bulbs are almost cream colored.

Color rating - Measured in Kelvin (K). The higher the number, the more bluish the light. 4000K-7000K is mostly on the blue side of the spectrum for Vegging or GROWING, while 3000K and under goes from a white spectrum, to a redder spectrum and is best for BLOOMING or FLOWERING.


High Intensity Discharge (HID) Lighting Systems:

Mercury Vapor (MV)
Mercury vapor lights are not the most efficient light for growing. They are very bright, and relatively cheap. They do emit light at the wavelengths necessary to support your plants growth, but not nearly as good as a MH or HPS light. Much of the light emitted by MV lights is bluish-white. Street lighting is what most MV lighting is used for.

Metal Halide (MH)
Metal halide lighting systems are optimal for use in the vegetative phase of growing. They emit mostly blue light, which encourages vigorous growth of foliage. They are very efficient, but can get rather expensive to start with; fluorescents may seem more appealing because of their lower price, and they are not much different when compared on a lumen-to-lumen cost level. These lights can be used through-out the grow, but leave a lot to be desired in the BLOOM stage.

High Pressure Sodium (HPS)
High pressure sodium lights emit mostly orange, yellow, and red spectrum light, which is perfect for the flowering stage of the plants growth. They are (in my opinion) the most efficient type of light available for any application if you are not on a budget and can vent the grow area for heat. HPS lights can be used through-out the entire grow. They produce more dense and usually larger flowers or fruit than any other light. HPS lights are generally a little more expensive than MH systems of similar wattage. They are more commonly used by experienced commercial growers because of their ability to produce tighter denser flowers, higher lumen-output-per-watt, and will produce from start to finish.

Just like everything else, available grow lights are evolving. Remember how the sun produces 10,000 lumens per square foot in the mid-summer. Well, today 3 105 watt CFLs in a good reflector can actually duplicate those lumens with CFLs. If you can not grow under the sun, then bring the sun inside. Yes, you can have 20,000 lumens covering the entire grow space of one of the SH systems now with their new 105 watt per bulb CFLs. Three of these bulbs in the proper reflector actually yields 20,000 lumens.
Comparing prices to lumens, and sticking to CFLS, you can not do any better.
I always want to repeat that HID lights are much much better for growing, but they cost more and produce much more heat. CFLs are good for small grows on a tight budget, and for novice growers, since they do not require any special sort of wiring or understanding of the necessary bulbs for a given fixture, and the small wattage ones (23, 42 and 65) are very widely available, even at Walley World, Lows and Home Depot.
You can run
hps light through both stages of growth (ok).
mh light through both stages of growth (ok).
run a mh light through the veg phase of growth followed by hps light through flowering (very good).
run both mh and hps light through both stages of growth (best).
When given the choice of only one light, most marijuana growers will choose an hps grow light over mh, because hps lights are more efficient (larger harvest).
You can't use a standard high pressure sodium bulb in a metal halide fixture, but you can use a metal halide bulb in a high pressure sodium fixture of the same wattage.
There are special hps bulbs that can be used in a mh fixture and vice-versa. But these conversion bulbs cost about double the price of a standard bulb.
A 250 watt fixture will supply enough light to cover a 2.5 foot by 2.5 foot grow area. (6 plants or less)
A 400 watt fixture will supply enough light to cover a 4 foot by 4 foot grow area. (12 plants or less)
A 600 watt fixture will supply enough light to cover a 5 foot by 5 foot grow area. (18 plants or less)
A 1000 watt fixture will supply enough light to cover a 6.5 foot by 6.5 foot grow area. (30 plants or less)
In order for the heat produced by a light system not to harm the plant, a 250 watt light system should be started 18 to 30 inches above the tops of the plants, a 400 watt light system should be started 3 to 4 feet above the tops of the plants
Whatever your light source, replace bulbs after 6 to 12 months of use. If the light is on 24 hours a day replace it after 6 months. If the light is on 18 hours a day replace it after 9 months. If the light is on 12 hours a day replace it after 12 months.
The hydroponic system is working and the plants have two or more sets of leaves. Remove the fluorescent lighting then install and adjust the height of your metal halide or high pressure sodium fixture.
When you first start the metal halide or high pressure sodium light the distance from the top of the plants to the light source should be started at the following height and lowered daily until you find an optimal distance:
18 to 30 inches for 250 watt light
3 to 4 feet for 400 watt light
4 to 5 feet for 600 watt light
5 to 6 feet for 1000 watt light
 
 
 
what you want to do is wait for the pistils to get at least 70% color change...then hit up the local radioshack where u can purchase a microscope for about 11 dollars...take this back home pick off a mature bud...put it under the microscope when 90% of the trichs are cloudy you should harvest...at least tahts what i do...and at 90% you are most likely going to get a couchlock (dosent matter how you write it)
 

"SICC"

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Yea are they 150 actual watts or are they the equivalents, even if, they should be at least 100 watts, 2 of those for one plant with some side lights should be chill, i dont see why not
 
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