I Think I have a magnesium any ideas?

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Beachwalker

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I understand. I'd recommend a simple two or three part newt regiment, I use three-part GH Flora with great success. My point is particularly when your starting out best to not worry too much, keep things as simple as possible and go forward from there. I've been back growing about three years and I'm still changing things all the time, learning and adapting

.. one last thing and I know I'll catch hell for it, (but it's not a cause I give a damn about one way or the other) but I think Coco coir is about the last medium I would ever use.

I see people, particularly newbies having pretty much exactly the same or a similar problem as you are with it. I don't know why anybody would want to use a medium that causes such unnecessary issues but apparently it's very popular, jmo
 
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Lennut

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Beachwalker said:
I understand. I'd recommend a simple two or three part newt regiment, I use three-part GH Flora with great success. My point is particularly when your starting out best to not worry too much, keep things as simple as possible and go forward from there. I've been back growing about three years and I'm still changing things all the time, learning and adapting
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It seems the amount and style of nuts are like butt holes. Everyone has one and they are all different which has left me completely confused and afraid to do either. I want this to work and I want to understand without killing any plants. Ive sure killed a lot of fish over the years learning how to care for them and spot a issue before its a issue. I really appreciate y'alls help and input.
 
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Lennut

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Beachwalker said:
I understand. I'd recommend a simple two or three part newt regiment, I use three-part GH Flora with great success. My point is particularly when your starting out best to not worry too much, keep things as simple as possible and go forward from there. I've been back growing about three years and I'm still changing things all the time, learning and adapting

.. one last thing and I know I'll catch hell for it, (but it's not a cause I give a damn about one way or the other) but I think Coco coir is about the last medium I would ever use.

I see people, particularly newbies having pretty much exactly the same or a similar problem as you are with it. I don't know why anybody would want to use a medium that causes such unnecessary issues but apparently it's very popular, jmo
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As for the coco its just the first thing I seen. How my friend grows and I have already started think soil may be a better choice for me. I am completely new. This is my first grow of anything outside a fish tank
 
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Stink Bug

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The plant in the picture started out life a bit calcium deficient. My guess is you are using unbuffered coco. The new growth looks good.
Drop or lower your CalMag and problems will reappear. I'm not sure why a certain member thinks it is not needed. But he is incredibly wrong in his understanding of how coco works.
 
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Tim1987

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Stink Bug said:
The plant in the picture started out life a bit calcium deficient. My guess is you are using unbuffered coco. The new growth looks good.
Drop or lower your CalMag and problems will reappear. I'm not sure why a certain member thinks it is not needed. But he is incredibly wrong in his understanding of how coco works.
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Go ahead and try it yourself.
Try to prove me wrong!!!!!
Happy grow Lennut!!!
Tim
 
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Tim1987

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Lennut said:
I did the flush and she looks much better. I was building nuts for sure. But where to go from here? Slow and easy does it
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Thats good news,
Just check your 6-4-4 for both cal and mag. If its a quality nutrient it should have both in some form.
Did you check your runoff again, today?
What were the readings?
 
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Beachwalker

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Lennut said:
No worries brother. I learned more in here and my plant is looking much better. I was just confused what to do next and who do you listen to
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I've used leca, volcano Stone, styrofoam (guess that's about it) as inert mediums in Hydroponics


.. the last medium I would use was something that was not inert, like coco

That doesn't help you where you are now, but possibly it might in your next run. I like soil because I'm old and lazy now and it's by far the easiest medium hands down!

As far as who to listen to: I suggest trust prevailing wisdom (who sounds more in-line with everything you've read?) would be my suggestion. Beyond this I can't help you, I have no experience with Coco coir
-best wishes
 
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Tim1987

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Tim1987 said:
Thats good news,
Just check your 6-4-4 for both cal and mag. If its a quality nutrient it should have both in some form.
Did you check your runoff again, today?
What were the readings?
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Thats all id do, from here on out. Just make sure you have a quality, nicely buffered nutrient.
Thats all ive ever needed.
If my ph is too low i know i have too much magnesium in my media.
If its too high. Then its too much calcium.
Calcium and magnesium are main antagonists for nitrogen. I always wait for nitrogen fade, before i feed extra.
If you have calcium and magnesium deficiency happening at the same time, its gotta be locking out.
Unless there's really none in my bottle of 6-4-4.
 
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Stink Bug

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Lennut said:
Great read. I have never heard of buffered coco until now. What would you do? These spot showed on bottom leaves but over all I think she has gone good.
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Like I said earlier the plant started off life a bit calcium deficient. That's the rust spots on the first true leaves. The new growth looks good.
Take your RO water to 150-200 ppm with CalMag, then add your GB. There is absolutely no need to be continually flushing the plant at this point. You do not have lockout. You never did. Tim simply does not know what he is talking about. He started spouting all of that nonsense before even seeing a picture. Then when he asked you to test RO water for hardness I figured he didn't have a clue. His thoughts on calcium, magnesium and pH are quite funny though. Little validly but still funny. Antidotal BS at its best!
 
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Tim1987

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Stink Bug said:
Like I said earlier the plant started off life a bit calcium deficient. That's the rust spots on the first true leaves. The new growth looks good.
Take your RO water to 150-200 ppm with CalMag, then add your GB. There is absolutely no need to be continually flushing the plant at this point.
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Sorry mate. But i reckon your plant would be od'd
Are they really dark green?
Have you got crows claw and twisting?
Ever wondered why you cant shake it??
I know what yours look like. Even without a pic!
Peace
Tim

Cation exchange capacity is in ALL media!!!
What do you reckon dirt does? Its like a sponge :wink:
 
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Lennut

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Stink Bug said:
Like I said earlier the plant started off life a bit calcium deficient. That's the rust spots on the first true leaves. The new growth looks good.
Take your RO water to 150-200 ppm with CalMag, then add your GB. There is absolutely no need to be continually flushing the plant at this point. You do not have lockout. You never did. Tim simply does not know what he is talking about. He started spouting all of that nonsense before even seeing a picture. Then when he asked you to test RO water for hardness I figured he didn't have a clue. His thoughts on calcium, magnesium and pH are quite funny though. Little validly but still funny. Antidotal BS at its best!
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Up to this point I was feeding her day 1-7. 1ml of Foxfarm grow big and 2ml Cali magic day 8 - 14 3ml ff and 2ml of Cali mag.
 
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