I think I should start over.
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rob333
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honest its like som1 took a dirty big shit in ya room on the plants in the rez just fucken everywere lol
Distortionist
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It did look like that, but while treating it I grew new white roots, but I could never get that clump green. I used a different enzyme product it wasnt helping. There aren't much additives I was adding, the only extra thing I added was golden tree and I stopped. The rest is part of their main line. The only other thing I added was piranha, tarantula and voodoo. I only added them after. They are benicicial bacteria fungus and microbes. The are specifically for root health. I was trying white shark too since that was not helping. I am pretty sure the problem was more rot in the hydroton. They were curling leaves and I can smell it. My water was turning to slime. It hadn't done that since I think I cured the rot.
My timer is now on 12 hours. I took a real close look at my leaves to learn the signs of nitrogen deficiency. I think I see what you all are talking about that theres yellow tint. So instead of adding the food I mixed, i added 15 ml of IJ grow into a gallon and topped up with that, this is ontop of what I added yesterday of IJ grow. Then plant has no clue today is first day of flower and I am hoping this 12 hours is enough for it to suck up nitrogen. I will do all my top ups from that water today. When lights go out I'll dump the res and throw in what I mixed with has 1/2 grow and 1/2 bloom to continue to help with the nitrogen and I'll top up with bloom food. My co2 tank ran out lol. Ill fill it up again and use it for flower at a slower rate. I'll finish my "air lock" and patch up some vents to leak less out of the tent and finish sealing around the door. That way less escapes I hope. I'll try again. Tank is only 5lb may have to upgrade to a 20lb but I want to see first if I can slow down the leaks otherwise i ain't gonna bother. If I don't quadruple the time it lasts I'll give up co2 this round till I seal the tent better wrapping it in vapor barrier and getting a bigger tank. The tent is in a corner so I can seal the barrier from floor to wall and only leave the front of the tent. That should plug everything except one face around zipper holes and thread holes. I can ever address the thread holes hit not the main zipper. What escapes should stay in the closet, but I feel like I'll end up giving up on co2. Which is ok it would run me less power cooling the room with AC rather than a vent. Since I don't vent the AC runs alot costing me money. Itll run alot less in I am expelling the heat. Experiments experiments! This is the purpose of this grow. Figure out what works and what doesnt. I also want to move the ac out. I want to cut a hole in the tent and tape the face of the ac where it recirculated and cools the tent air to the hole on the tent. That way it will stop taking room in the tent. I'm moving the co2 out too and just send tubes in. I'll be able to put 4 plants in there for shorter veg and faster turnover.
I think I am going to have a busy day.
Distortionist
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Oh and a pic before I forget. The brown spots are from droplets of foliar spray? I'm not sure. Do my leaves look that bad? I am scared to add anymore food before waiting for results. Lol
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Distortionist
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Think this is ok to add for a pure nitrogen boost to the res or foilar spray?
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MrGreenFingers99
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More products lol, dude you gotta stop listening to the salesmen in the hydro store!
MrGreenFingers99
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Just fix your PH and EC, with the PH at 5.2 your locking out elements.
Distortionist
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Man I don't even have a hydro store. This is plant food for my fish tank. I have all the different elements in bottles. This one only adds nitrogen. I'm trying to add just nitrogen without overfeeding other stuff. Just trying to address my deficiency you guys pointed out. I'm scared to mix in more food.
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MrGreenFingers99
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Your nutrients be it GH or AN whatever your using will have enough of each element, you should be more concerned about trying to find the correct EC of what your plant wants at this point, once you have PH and EC stable the plant will green up.
Distortionist
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The 5.2 is the new mix. I'm letting it stabilize before adjusting its PH. Itll be 5.8 when I add it. I just didnt adjust it yesterday. I wanted to see where it ends up without touching it and then before adding it will be bang on.
I cant use PPM right now with organic food. There is way more stuff in there than GH and yet my ppm shows in the low 500s in this mix. It's harder to judge food. I just wanted to address the nitrogen problem by providing a bit extra.
Distortionist
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Alright. I guess I just have to be patient and see what I did helps.
Distortionist
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That plant food is for this lol.
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MrGreenFingers99
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Hehe I think I'm going to stop posting now and just continue to follow the thread as it seems like it doesnt matter what people say you are still going to do what you want which is cool because it's your plant and your prerogative.
I will just give my last comment - ditch the AN and organic stuff, use GH and peroxide to get through to harvest and then try AN again with the knowledge you think you've gained from this experience.
I will just give my last comment - ditch the AN and organic stuff, use GH and peroxide to get through to harvest and then try AN again with the knowledge you think you've gained from this experience.
Distortionist
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Asside from the deficiency I think I'll get ahold of, it seems you guys helped me catch it early, the plant is incredibly happy compared to lady week. Here's an overhead from the cam compared to when it was not very happy. May 24th was the crappy pic lol.
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Distortionist
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What am I not listening to? I didn't add that stuff I was asking if it was a good idea. I've done everything people told me to do, the only thing I'm being stubborn about is the AN stuff. I may as well keep fucking this plant up learning rather than my next grow which will be 2 plants or more. I gotta admit all the stuff that goes into their bloom mix is scary! I ditched anything extra I was putting like golden tree and superthrive. That's the only stuff out of line. The rest is their recommended blend. Superthrive is a plant recovery agent. I got it instead of buying AN rescue stuff. It's mostly vitamins.
MrGreenFingers99
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Good luck buddy I'm rooting for you for sure, you deserve huge, chrystally buds for your perseverance alone
MrGreenFingers99
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Everybody who has commented on this thread has told you to stop using so many additives, all you need is calmag, base nutes and either a bennie or a sterilising agent, only things I would possibly add is Silica and a PK booster in mid flower if needed.
Distortionist
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Haha thanks man and I appreciate the help. I hope I don't seem too crazy. My problem is I've read so much stuff and most of it contradicts so I ask lots of questions trying to wrap my head around everything and make well informed decisions. I'm sorry if I am driving people nuts I'm just trying to learn everything all at once lol. I really am not going crazy adding weird shit in there. I'm being super careful and cautious lol. I think anyway. Lol.Good luck buddy I'm rooting for you for sure, you deserve huge, chrystally buds for your perseverance alone
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My grow consists of only Iguana juice which is the main nutrient, ancient earth wish is a bunch of micronutrients, sensyzyme which is enzymes to bread down dead or decaying matters and benificials... what am I added that's weird?
The bloom has lots of stuff but I didn't even use it yet. I cut out anything extra I was putting in, which was only golden tree and superthrive which i only used on Monday to aid its recovery. I even majorly underused it at only 4 drops. It calls for a lot more.
The bloom has lots of stuff but I didn't even use it yet. I cut out anything extra I was putting in, which was only golden tree and superthrive which i only used on Monday to aid its recovery. I even majorly underused it at only 4 drops. It calls for a lot more.
MrGreenFingers99
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Come on now, stop kidding yourself, you know your going to add piranha, terantialla, voodoo juice, beetle piss and snake oil into the res at some point, then I bet you've got big bud, overdrive, bud ignitor, bud candy and other concoctions to add later!
All good though bro it's your plant so do what you want, I just want to see some full jars at the end of this!
All good though bro it's your plant so do what you want, I just want to see some full jars at the end of this!