Ideal Temperature and Humidity : Mel Frank & Ed Rosenthal style

silentmercy

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This should be helpful for those researching optimal temperature and humidity ( as I currently am doing) This is from " The Marijuana Grower's Guide - Mel Frank & Ed Rosenthal.

Humidity
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Marijuana flourishes through a wide range of relative humidity. It can grow in an atmosphere as dry as a desert or as moist as a jungle. Under ordinary household conditions, the humidity will rarely be too extreme for healthy growth. The effects of the humidity on plant growth are closely tied to temperature, win speed, and the moisture of the soil.

The relative humidity affects the rate of the plant's transpiration. With high humidity, water evaporates from the leaves more slowly; transpiration slows, and growth slows also. With low humidity, water evaporates rapidly; the plant may not be able to absorb water fast enough to maintain an equilibrium and will protect itself from dehydration by closing its stomata. This slows the transpiration rate and growth also slows. There is a noticeable slowing of growth because of humidity only when the humidity stays at an extreme (less then 20 percent or over 90 percent).

Cannabis seems to respond best through a range of 40 to 80 percent relative humidity. You should protect the plants from the direct outflow of a heater or air conditioner, both of which give off very dry air. During the first few weeks of growth, the plants are especially susceptible to a dry atmosphere. If this is a problem, loosely enclose the garden with aluminum foil, white sheet plastic, or other materials. This will trap some of the transpired moisture and raise the humidity in the garden. Once the seedlings are growing well, the drier household atmosphere is preferred.

Where the humidity is consistently over 80 percent, the plants may develop stem rot or grow more slowly. Good air circulation from open windows or a small fan is the best solution.

As long as the air is freely circulating, the plants will grow well at a higher humidity. Dehumidifiers are expensive (over $100) and an extravagance.

Humidity and Potency

As far as we know, there has been little work done correlating the relative humidity with potency. In the two related cases we've seen, 85, 117 neither study was intended to examine the effects of relative humidity and potency. However, a lower humidity (50 to 70 percent) produced slightly more potent plants than a higher relative humidity (80 percent and over).

A dry atmosphere seems to produce more potent plants. When the humidity is about 50 percent or less, plant development is more compact, and the leaves have thinner blades. When the atmosphere is humid, growth is taller and the leaves luxuriant with wider blades. The advantage to the plant is that wider blades have more surface and hence can transpire more water. The converse is that thinner blades help conserve water. Higher potency may simply be due to less leaf tissue for a given amount of cannabinoids and resin glands.

The temperature also influences the form and size of the leaves. At higher temperatures, the leaves grow closer together; under a cool regime, the leaves are larger, have wider blades, and are spaced farther apart 77. Possibly, cool temperatures yield slightly lower potency for much the same reason that a moist atmosphere does.

However, differences in potency caused by any of the growth factors (light nutrients, water, temperature, humidity, etc.) are small compared to differences caused by the variety (heredity) and full maturation (expression of heredity). For example, the humidity in Jamaica, Colombia, Thailand, and many other countries associated with fine marijuana is relatively high and averages about 80 percent.

However, try to keep the atmosphere dry. The atmosphere in heated or air-conditioned homes is already dry (usually 15 to 40 percent). For this reason, many growers sow so that the plants mature during the winter if the home is heated or in mid-summer if it is air-conditioned. As we mentioned, there should be no need to use dehumidifiers. Good air circulation and raising the temperature to 75 to 80F are the simplest means of dealing with high humidity.
I pulled some excerpts for quick consumption for those with short term memory loss :shock:

Will high humidity slow my growth?
There is a noticeable slowing of growth because of humidity only when the humidity stays at an extreme (less then 20 percent or over 90 percent).
What is the best range of humidity?
Cannabis seems to respond best through a range of 40 to 80 percent relative humidity.
Humidity and bud formation..
A dry atmosphere seems to produce more potent plants. When the humidity is about 50 percent or less, plant development is more compact, and the leaves have thinner blades
Dehumidifier, do I need one?
As we mentioned, there should be no need to use dehumidifiers. Good air circulation and raising the temperature to 75 to 80F are the simplest means of dealing with high humidity.
Hope this helps someone.

You can download the entire book here The Marijuana Grower's Guide - Mel Frank & Ed Rosenthal.
 

Bwpz

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They say in that last excerpt that if you have a high humidity then you should increase the temperature?
 

lostNug

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I think this has been posted here before, but good lookin anyways. Got my temp stayin between 75-80 n rh is 40-55
 

silentmercy

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increase to 75-80 degrees Fahrenheit. What I got out of it is this :
There is a noticeable slowing of growth because of humidity only when the humidity stays at an extreme (less then 20 percent or over 90 percent).
 

Bwpz

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An air conditioner is basically a de-humidifer
I was just wonderin how that made sense. If your humidity is high, why would you increase the temperature? The higher the temperature, the more moisture the air can hold, meaning the higher the humidity...
 

silentmercy

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Again I get this from reading it:
There is a noticeable slowing of growth because of humidity only when the humidity stays at an extreme (less then 20 percent or over 90 percent)., but denser bud formation if humidity is around 50%.
I am no humidity expert but I found one:

Humidity is expressed as a relative value...
to be specific, the percentage of the maximum amount of water that the atmosphere can hold suspended.

or in other terms, how close you are to forming condensation.

for example, if the air can hold 1 part per million water vapor, and there is only ½ part per million water, you are at 50% humidity. if you warm the air so it can hold 2 parts per million, without adding water, you are at 25% humidity. conversely, if you introduce a cold glass of soda into the environment, and it cools the air immediately around the glass so it can only hold ¼ part per million, the air immediately around the glass has 200% humidity, and the water condenses out of the air and beads up on the sides of the glass.

on your bathroom mirror, the opposite happens: as you take a hot bath or shower, the hot water vaporizes into the air, increasing the humidity, until the air cannot hold all the water and it condenses onto the slightly-cooler-than-the-walls glass mirror. if you continue to pump water vapor into the room, it will also condense onto the walls.

a dehumidifier works by refrigerating condensing surface, so that air drawn through the dehumidifier exceeds 100% humidity, and water condenses out of the air onto the condensing surface. the dehumidifier then reheats the air, before releasing it back into the room. the most common dehumidifiers are basically heat pumps with both the cooling and warming coils in the same box.

to answer your question concisely, with a temperature increase, relative humidity will decrease, unless more water vapor is also introduced.
 

Bwpz

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So I see the ideal range is 40-80, but it's supposed to be higher in Veg than in Flower. What would you say the best ones for each, like 70 for Veg and 50 for Flower?
 

sheapdog420

Active Member
Again I get this from reading it:


I am no humidity expert but I found one:
Relative humidity in winter is also why people up north need humidifiers in winter. The humidity levels outside will be similar to summer, but when you heat that air from 20 degrees to 75 degrees, your relative humidity drops to near 2%. So when you add the humidifiers in winter, it will feel a little warmer even though your temps haven't changed, plus its better for the lungs.
 

BeaverHuntr

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So I see the ideal range is 40-80, but it's supposed to be higher in Veg than in Flower. What would you say the best ones for each, like 70 for Veg and 50 for Flower?
Yeah 70% veg and 40% in flower. It all depends on your climate my plants are vegging in the desert and I have them at 40%. Once they get past the seedling / cutting stage the humidity levels dont play such a big factor untill you get into flower. Keep the humidity under 50% for flower so you dont get bud rot. Bud Rot = harvest being no good.
 

silentmercy

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Thanks for that information, completely makes sense and you taught me something :)
We both were taught something.... collective shared knowledge is the best kind because it draws upon many resources! Oh yeah and Google helps too.. LMAO
 
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