If Corporations are people...
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Psychedelic Breakfast
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Only brown ones
AltarNation
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They're not.
AltarNation
Well-Known Member
Corporations are not people.
Listen to yourselves.
Do you buy into their rhetoric so heavily that you literally believe that what they say is fact? God.
Listen to yourselves.
Do you buy into their rhetoric so heavily that you literally believe that what they say is fact? God.
AltarNation
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Well, the language applied has a lot to do with defining one's beliefs. If you want to reinforce their rhetoric, keep using phrases like "the day corporations became people" ...if you want to defeat it, use words like "the day the morons declared corporations people..."
just my 2 cents.
just my 2 cents.
sso
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good point, but im rather of the opinion that this hilarious fart in the wind will fall apart anyway.
the people that want a corporation owned world are a minority and more and more so.
most people dont really feel that fine about living in a beehive where only one person is important, when that "person" isnt even a real live living being, well, as i said, it just becomes a farcical joke, only able to continue so far because of the lackluster state of brains back then and somewhat now.
stupidity gets erased, sooner or later.
and this
is
sheer stupidity.
the people that want a corporation owned world are a minority and more and more so.
most people dont really feel that fine about living in a beehive where only one person is important, when that "person" isnt even a real live living being, well, as i said, it just becomes a farcical joke, only able to continue so far because of the lackluster state of brains back then and somewhat now.
stupidity gets erased, sooner or later.
and this
is
sheer stupidity.
unohu69
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person and people are two totally different words, come on this is law 101. stop looking up words with websters or you will never learn anything.
You must have a Blacks, or Bouvier law dictionary. This is pretty basic shit. A Person is a corporate legal fiction. you are not a Person unless you accept that definition and live it.
Seriously, im not even interested in carrying on a dialog about this. Im to tired of trying to explain this stuff to people. if your interested, look it all up. thats the only way youll believe it anyways.
http://famguardian.org/index.htm
http://usavsus.info/
http://www.energeticforum.com/general-discussion/2504-common-law-ucc-1-308-a.html
http://www.barefootsworld.net/
http://www.freedom-school.com/history/usa.html
Just to get you started....
You must have a Blacks, or Bouvier law dictionary. This is pretty basic shit. A Person is a corporate legal fiction. you are not a Person unless you accept that definition and live it.
Seriously, im not even interested in carrying on a dialog about this. Im to tired of trying to explain this stuff to people. if your interested, look it all up. thats the only way youll believe it anyways.
http://famguardian.org/index.htm
http://usavsus.info/
http://www.energeticforum.com/general-discussion/2504-common-law-ucc-1-308-a.html
http://www.barefootsworld.net/
http://www.freedom-school.com/history/usa.html
Just to get you started....
eye exaggerate
Well-Known Member
...legally accountable as a person would be. But, where's the nuts? I'd give 'em a good kick if I could 
azman
Active Member
ive heard lots about this,
a person is a legal fiction, as in your birth certificate is a person.
im not sure how it works over the pond but here its all about common law.
Finshaggy
Well-Known Member
We live in a world where it is a possibility.
Questioning these things is necessity.
Otherwise we get enslaved ignorantly.
It is all VERY close to possible though...
So it's not ridiculous...
I've never heard this...
That's crazy...
Our birth certificate is a person?
Finshaggy
Well-Known Member
I don't like any of it though...
The fact that one day Corporations could adopt children...
And get married...
And "peruse happiness"...
What does all that look like as a legal organization???
Like...Legal gangs almost?
But more power, and ability in the world...
That would suck...
The fact that one day Corporations could adopt children...
And get married...
And "peruse happiness"...
What does all that look like as a legal organization???
Like...Legal gangs almost?
But more power, and ability in the world...
That would suck...
unohu69
Well-Known Member
You MUST understand proper grammar, and punctuation, in order to understand the way laws are written, then to understand the difference between a statute and a law.
You almost have to be a English major to understand how these things affect the contracts that bind you to your life. understand what a proper noun is and why ONLY the first letter is capitalized. Why a corporation is ALL capital letters. what it designates in the contract.
discover why marriage licenses were instituted. When birth certificates were created. why you ask permission for things like traveling in your own property (your horseless cariage), carrying a firearm for personal defense.
All very valid questions. when you can answer them, you will have a slight clue, until then, may as well be in a pen, bhaahaing like the sheep you truly are (their view of you, not mine).....
You almost have to be a English major to understand how these things affect the contracts that bind you to your life. understand what a proper noun is and why ONLY the first letter is capitalized. Why a corporation is ALL capital letters. what it designates in the contract.
discover why marriage licenses were instituted. When birth certificates were created. why you ask permission for things like traveling in your own property (your horseless cariage), carrying a firearm for personal defense.
All very valid questions. when you can answer them, you will have a slight clue, until then, may as well be in a pen, bhaahaing like the sheep you truly are (their view of you, not mine).....
Finshaggy
Well-Known Member
Everything you said implies this IS your view...
I do not have to understand SHIT, you say I need to understand grammar and punctuation to understand how the contracts bind me...
Legal documents are bullshit...
I have one that says I am to be at court...
One that says I am to be in jail...
I believe neither to be true...
Maybe one day I'll pay the $1000 to make it go away...
But I'll probably just do what I do, and go to my state when I need to, and when it's time, and STILL not give a fuck about their grammar, or punctuation
I'd love to go to court with them (in 10 years) and fight this case, and what I'm "bound" to...
I'd also love to topple that shit, and make a whole new set of rules, and grammunctuations
Each is just as likely as the other, or may even go hand in hand
unohu69
Well-Known Member
yes it is my view, just as the current debacle we deal with is the results of someone else's view. all anything is is a idea. the whole United States is just an idea. One in which I had no say in creating, why would you be subject to someone else's idea? Only if you agreed to it, or belong to them. if you walk into Walmart, you are not subject to their dress code, you dont work for them, you never agreed to it.
if neither were true, then you would do as you please. thats all im saying. Did you sign your drivers license? you entered into a contract. anything you sign for paper work is a contract, the way it is setup is how it gains control over you. Yes, you absolutely can go about ignoring these facts, doesnt matter to me what you do.
Chances are, that whatever you are being charged with, is not even a crime as far as the founding fathers were concerned. you probably violated a statute that doesnt actually apply to you as a human, and if you knew, and can prove it, then you wouldnt have to pay anything to anybody....
The Constitution isnt even for you, its the foundation for the government and the rules it must follow. if people understood this, we wouldnt have the civil rights violations we have today.
* side note, just found this site, pretty good shit right here also:
http://home.myfairpoint.net/vzeo1z2a/LiveFree.html
Any ways, just want to bring a couple points up that people need to consider, when thinking in terms of being governed. I am only showing information for those who wish to educate themselves, matters not to me.. I do my own thing, everybody else is free to theirs.....
if neither were true, then you would do as you please. thats all im saying. Did you sign your drivers license? you entered into a contract. anything you sign for paper work is a contract, the way it is setup is how it gains control over you. Yes, you absolutely can go about ignoring these facts, doesnt matter to me what you do.
Chances are, that whatever you are being charged with, is not even a crime as far as the founding fathers were concerned. you probably violated a statute that doesnt actually apply to you as a human, and if you knew, and can prove it, then you wouldnt have to pay anything to anybody....
The Constitution isnt even for you, its the foundation for the government and the rules it must follow. if people understood this, we wouldnt have the civil rights violations we have today.
* side note, just found this site, pretty good shit right here also:
http://home.myfairpoint.net/vzeo1z2a/LiveFree.html
Any ways, just want to bring a couple points up that people need to consider, when thinking in terms of being governed. I am only showing information for those who wish to educate themselves, matters not to me.. I do my own thing, everybody else is free to theirs.....
j4droopy
Active Member
All under the impression this is mere rhetoric are severly mis-informed. Congress recently proposed a bill giving corporations the rights of a citizen. This is a serious issue. The fact that about 90% of people dont know about this political move is a sign. A sign from the government and a sign of the disease of complacency imposed on the american people. If you think im full of shit, do your research. I believe the "Koch Brothers" is a good place to start.
Finshaggy
Well-Known Member
You're underestimating people...
Many America pot smokers understand their rights are being violated.
Thousands of people in jail for joints (and myself) would have TONS to say about how it is not what our founding fathers wanted, it is against human nature to deny us these things, and it is against the pursuit of happiness...
MANY MANY of us understand this.
Many GANGS in America have constitutions reflecting that they ALSO recognize this...
So you are underestimating our knowledge, along with underestimating the length the pigs will go to ignore the constitution, and the civilians they arrest...