Illinois medical marijuana???
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VictorVIcious
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Michigan Coalition for Compassionate Care Here is the website for our group in Michigan. We have a new director of grass roots effort. The feeling is that no news is good news, means our enemies aren't attacking, in October we will run advertising. What we need to do now is educate our friends and neighbors, and ourselves. The full text is available here, its like two legal pages. I had folks that read the whole thing and then signed it. Their comment was we had included extra penelties for folks that try to use it fraudulently. There are specific illnesses listed and provision for adding more as research says it helps. Doctor will be giving you a recommendation, you apply for the card. Lots of folks have worked very hard to make this happen, we will be around to make sure it gets implimented. Hang nails will not qualify. VV
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Stoney McFried
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VictorVIcious
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Stoney, love ya girl, that takes guts, lmfao. Equidor is kicking the US drug operation out of their country, the whole world is telling US we have to change. Just posted it in news you can use, this is historic, we need reaction from the presidential candidates on this development, coupled with the UN telling us the same thing.
Put an artistic Marijuana leaf and the slogan, Whats in you closet?? or ITS TIME TO COME OUT OF THE CLOSET. Million seller!!!! VV
Put an artistic Marijuana leaf and the slogan, Whats in you closet?? or ITS TIME TO COME OUT OF THE CLOSET. Million seller!!!! VV
Stoney McFried
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I did a lot of petition signing last night...and HEY!!!I got a letter back from one of my congresspersons, Dave Loebsack, on the letter I sent regarding medical marijuana.
VictorVIcious
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Hare gets religious support for medical marijuana
Bill would bar feds from interfering in state laws
7/19/08|The Register-Mail| by Stephen Geinosky - The Register-Mail
Congressman Phil Hare, D-Rock Island, will vote in favor of legalizing medical marijuana for the second straight year.
Congressman Phil Hare, D-Rock Island
Photo courtesy of The Register-Mail
This time, however, he has the support of seven religious leaders in the 17th district. Clergy from the Disciples of Christ and United Church of Christ are standing by Hare in the push to legalize the Schedule I drug.
“Medical marijuana is an issue of mercy and compassion,” said the Rev. William Pyatt, Carthage United Methodist Church, in a news release. “Being seriously ill is stressful enough already without living in fear of arrest for taking doctor-recommended medicine.”
An additional 55 religion leaders throughout Illinois have added their support to the legislation.
Hare agrees that a patient comfort should come first.
“We want to give patients the best quality of life,” Hare said. “As long as it is done within the consultation of a doctor.”
The legislation would prevent the federal government from interfering in state medical marijuana laws. Currently 12 states allow the use of medical marijuana. It is often used for patients with cancer, AIDS and multiple sclerosis.
Not all doctors agree with legalizing medicinal marijuana though. Galesburg oncologist Dr. John McClean said doctors should focus on more powerful medications already on the market.
“People who are for it want to go, more or less, against conventional wisdom and think this is a great drug choice,” McClean said. “It’s not. When the medical community sees these big pushes for medical marijuana it’s kind of a joke.”
Marinol, a prescription drug for cancer patients with nausea or vomiting, is an FDA-approved drug that uses synthetic THC — tetrahydrocannabinol — the main psychoactive substance found in the cannabis plant. However, McClean said he does not believe Marinol is as powerful as other prescription drugs on the market.
Hare noted his time spent as a hospice volunteer as an influence on his position, commenting on how he was humbled by several of the patients. One specific patient with lung cancer stands out as one of his most memorable. The patient, an older man, confided in Hare his last wishes were to sit with his cat, drink a beer and have a conversation with someone.
So Hare brought the man a six-pack of Bud Light and his cat. The two sat and talked for hours, sipping beer.
Two weeks later, after the man died, his wife approached Hare, telling him how much the gesture meant to her husband.
Hare became a hospice volunteer after the death of his mother.
The story reflects Hare’s position on medical marijuana.
“We need to do whatever that patient needs or wants, and give them a chance to go out with dignity,” Hare said. “And if I had a chance to (bring the man his cat and beer) again, I would.”
McClean agreed that the patient’s personal well-being should come first.
“If somebody said, ‘I want a joint to smoke before I pass on,’ I’d be the last person to stop them,” McClean said. “But to use marijuana for medical reasons, it’s questionable.”
Advocates for the use of medical marijuana are for the euphoria created from smoking marijuana, McClean said. By creating a sense of euphoria, he said the patient may escape pain.
Hare said medical marijuana is not given for patients to get high, but to make them comfortable.
Morphine and fentanyl are more efficient medications for pain relief McClean said. The two can also be given multiple ways — by patch, mouth or even as a suppository — making it easier for the patient. While both Schedule II medications are heavily addictive, according to the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration, McClean said patients can be weaned off them. He also said addiction is not an issue for terminally ill patients because “when they have two weeks to live, we don’t worry about addiction.”
McClean said some researchers and doctors think marijuana is addictive.
Hare said while he is for the legalization for medical marijuana, he does not support legalizing the drug for recreational use.
“We need to draw a line and say there is a huge difference,” Hare said.
Budda_Luva
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goos shit can somsone point me in a direction to where illinois MM is so i can go bitch lolIL : Hare gets religious support for medical marijuana
Hare gets religious support for medical marijuana
Bill would bar feds from interfering in state laws
7/19/08|The Register-Mail| by Stephen Geinosky - The Register-Mail
Congressman Phil Hare, D-Rock Island, will vote in favor of legalizing medical marijuana for the second straight year.
Congressman Phil Hare, D-Rock Island
Photo courtesy of The Register-Mail
This time, however, he has the support of seven religious leaders in the 17th district. Clergy from the Disciples of Christ and United Church of Christ are standing by Hare in the push to legalize the Schedule I drug.
Medical marijuana is an issue of mercy and compassion, said the Rev. William Pyatt, Carthage United Methodist Church, in a news release. Being seriously ill is stressful enough already without living in fear of arrest for taking doctor-recommended medicine.
An additional 55 religion leaders throughout Illinois have added their support to the legislation.
Hare agrees that a patient comfort should come first.
We want to give patients the best quality of life, Hare said. As long as it is done within the consultation of a doctor.
The legislation would prevent the federal government from interfering in state medical marijuana laws. Currently 12 states allow the use of medical marijuana. It is often used for patients with cancer, AIDS and multiple sclerosis.
Not all doctors agree with legalizing medicinal marijuana though. Galesburg oncologist Dr. John McClean said doctors should focus on more powerful medications already on the market.
People who are for it want to go, more or less, against conventional wisdom and think this is a great drug choice, McClean said. Its not. When the medical community sees these big pushes for medical marijuana its kind of a joke.
Marinol, a prescription drug for cancer patients with nausea or vomiting, is an FDA-approved drug that uses synthetic THC tetrahydrocannabinol the main psychoactive substance found in the cannabis plant. However, McClean said he does not believe Marinol is as powerful as other prescription drugs on the market.
Hare noted his time spent as a hospice volunteer as an influence on his position, commenting on how he was humbled by several of the patients. One specific patient with lung cancer stands out as one of his most memorable. The patient, an older man, confided in Hare his last wishes were to sit with his cat, drink a beer and have a conversation with someone.
So Hare brought the man a six-pack of Bud Light and his cat. The two sat and talked for hours, sipping beer.
Two weeks later, after the man died, his wife approached Hare, telling him how much the gesture meant to her husband.
Hare became a hospice volunteer after the death of his mother.
The story reflects Hares position on medical marijuana.
We need to do whatever that patient needs or wants, and give them a chance to go out with dignity, Hare said. And if I had a chance to (bring the man his cat and beer) again, I would.
McClean agreed that the patients personal well-being should come first.
If somebody said, I want a joint to smoke before I pass on, Id be the last person to stop them, McClean said. But to use marijuana for medical reasons, its questionable.
Advocates for the use of medical marijuana are for the euphoria created from smoking marijuana, McClean said. By creating a sense of euphoria, he said the patient may escape pain.
Hare said medical marijuana is not given for patients to get high, but to make them comfortable.
Morphine and fentanyl are more efficient medications for pain relief McClean said. The two can also be given multiple ways by patch, mouth or even as a suppository making it easier for the patient. While both Schedule II medications are heavily addictive, according to the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration, McClean said patients can be weaned off them. He also said addiction is not an issue for terminally ill patients because when they have two weeks to live, we dont worry about addiction.
McClean said some researchers and doctors think marijuana is addictive.
Hare said while he is for the legalization for medical marijuana, he does not support legalizing the drug for recreational use.
We need to draw a line and say there is a huge difference, Hare said.
VictorVIcious
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What you would want to do is some research. All of the negative bullshit adds, there is one being run in our state, show a bunch of folks blowing smoke and says smoked marijuna so often, it makes me puke. Do a search on Dr. Tashkin, you will find he was asked about smoked marijuana and based on the chemicals in the smoke, he agreed it must be harmful. So the NIDA people provide the funds for him to do some actual research about smoked marijuana, really nail us to the wall type of study, some science, not just rhetoric. Have you seen the results of that study?? Wonder why? DO the research, don't bitch, prepare, like its a war. VV
Budda_Luva
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thans its war imma start doin research on thc and the components contained in THC and probably look foward to becoming a MM activast
VictorVIcious
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I think it will be the same as i is right now except for the patients won't get arrested. VV
Budda_Luva
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hell yea juss offer the person over the counter some extra money and i BET they will give it u
VictorVIcious
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There isn't any counter, the patients can grow their own or have a caregiver authorized to grow it for them. Reason is simple, we want it to be just about medical. It fits the big scheme of things, Michigan can be the turning point for Medical MJ, get the patients off the battlefield. VV
donWonton
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yeah my concerns are about who they will prescribe it to and for what reasons...i hope mm docs in mi will prescribe it for simple anxiety and other "problems"..ya know what im saying? They may regulate the system and only prescribe to AID, glaucoma, and multiple sclerosis patients...
VictorVIcious
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We, the folks that worked to get this on the ballot will be doing two things, first to get illnesses added to the list, second to compile lists of Doctor that we know will be positive about recommending it. I know it sounds like California is nervana, it causes problems too. If you don't understand it you probably don't know anyone that really needs it. I am talking anout folks for whom a good day is one were they have their medicine and can wash the dishes that day, a big accomplishment if you are normally in a wheel chair because of the ms shakes. I stopped petioning with folks that said its to legalize medical marijuna, because it doesn't, that will require a change to federal law, and that is being worked on. One of the arguments used against us is that they think we just want to legalize marijuana, and believe me I do, not at the expense of folks that can get relief from constant pain by being able to use the medical marijuna they grow or that is grown for them. Give it a year and other States in this area will follow suit and the whole deck will be in play, I'll be in the front of the line for a growers license. VV
Stoney McFried
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Well, I'll move there.I have severe depression.AND TWO HANGNAILS.
misshestermoffitt
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I've been depressed my whole life. In fact I've been depressed so long it took me forever to figure out I was depressed because I never knew any other way.
Not to mention when I'm out of weed everyones head looks like an invitation to batting practice.
Never had much trouble with hangnails though.......
Not to mention when I'm out of weed everyones head looks like an invitation to batting practice.
Never had much trouble with hangnails though.......