Soo... the old man has a few trick for his 'J's. Take a few buds and put them in the hopper, throw out those big stems or don't. Put the top on, and hit the button, and...get out 'your tray', you do have one right? Remember I am old, some may think it's cheating, its not, your allowed this anytime after 18. Pack it full, close it, turn it around a few times, insert you favorite 1 1/4, I like the Elements, Lick it before its all the way turned, you can see the shape on the end too, and... a 'J' the old mans way. NOW LIGHT THAT PUPPY AND GO POST SOME PICTURES. vv

I will roll another, just be patient, this is hard work.
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Sorry I uess the thumbs don't come with it, they are in the blues journal. VV