Inda-gro Induction...
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Splifferous
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actually... i can't wait to make BHO... lol... but ya, i'll no doubt burn a few nugs of her in the process. 
Splifferous
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more fresh pics from the 420PAR side of the tent. here's the Obama and the Grand Daddy Purp. i think i'm gonna bring them down tomorrow... i just finished bleach-douching the room that i'm gonna be hanging them in...
Grand Daddy Purp:
Obama Kush:
Grand Daddy Purp:
Obama Kush:
Splifferous
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ya i think so... mebbe... it's been a minute since either popped a significant amount of fresh pistils, and the trichs as getting this really sweet haze to them... we'll see what they look like when the light comes back on tomorrow... they've been on the molasses/fresh water thing for a couple feedings now, so at this point it could go either way...
Buck123
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what induction might do alright after all?
Splifferous
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hey all, just touching base real quick...
so the GDP and OK are still rockin about half a gallon in soil, and they are WAY more crystally than they were yesterday. the OK is also showing some slight purple coloring. so i have decided to let them ride out another day or 2, so far...
the PDP is still beasting it out. im dropping her N a bit more tonight, but still pushing her on everything else.
the PK is getting really close... more crystally than yesterday, but it looks like she had a bit of a fresh calyx/pistil revival over night so im hitting her with another round of flushing.
the WF really nutted up over night too. a noticable bit of swelling and more trich loading... she's catching another round of flushing tonight too, and might be ready to come down with the PK, when they go dry again, which should be in 4 days.
i tried to take pics while i was in there, but the differences that i am seeing are pretty subtle to show up on my phone camera... i'll post updated pics tomorrow -=o)
be well everyone!
so the GDP and OK are still rockin about half a gallon in soil, and they are WAY more crystally than they were yesterday. the OK is also showing some slight purple coloring. so i have decided to let them ride out another day or 2, so far...
the PDP is still beasting it out. im dropping her N a bit more tonight, but still pushing her on everything else.
the PK is getting really close... more crystally than yesterday, but it looks like she had a bit of a fresh calyx/pistil revival over night so im hitting her with another round of flushing.
the WF really nutted up over night too. a noticable bit of swelling and more trich loading... she's catching another round of flushing tonight too, and might be ready to come down with the PK, when they go dry again, which should be in 4 days.
i tried to take pics while i was in there, but the differences that i am seeing are pretty subtle to show up on my phone camera... i'll post updated pics tomorrow -=o)
be well everyone!
PetFlora
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As good as it looks, I would supplement light with 650-740 from mid-flower to harvest
THEHAKUSURU
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Well I'm fairly happy with the pro par 420 so far. Not as cool as the make it out to be. Was under about 460W of CFL before. It's now hotter in the room than it was. So the "client" in those videos of the DWC in the 4X6 tent he wait for it... works there. Called with some questions recognized his voice and called him on it. He got weird for a min but was polite. I have noticed a positive difference so far but haven't finished full flower cycle yet. But then i went from CFL not HID. Not sure if I would have more heat issues with a 600W HPS as they are designed to be vented. Part of the reason I went this route is heat so I'm not going around telling anyone its the greatest thing ever. For what it's worth it is working better than about the same watts in CFL.
brotherjericho
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All of what you state makes complete sense, except maybe the heat issue. Induction is roughly 80-85 lumens/watt while CFLs can range from 55-70 lumens/watt (the higher the wattage the worse). So if you had say 10 46w CFLs you were probably putting out around 30800 lumens (initial) while the 420w induction would put out 33600 lumens or better. Plus, being higher wattage for one lamp means more intensity (typically), vs the combined weaker intensity of the lower wattage lights. That is, the effective distance from plant to light should be improved. Finally, you likely have a better reflector on the induction than you did on the CFLs.
Maybe if the ballast/driver for the induction lamp was remote, you'd have better heat control and would have less heat than the CFLS since they are all self-ballasted.
Splifferous
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what's your day temp? i aim for a steady 85F during the light-on part of the cycle whether veg(50-70RH) or bloom(40RH). 85F provides plants with the best temperature for the highest metabolism and the fastest growth rates. i can see a clear difference in the rate of biomass accumulation if i increase exhaust to drop the temp to the mid-70s.
i will admit that sometimes the rooms still get rather balmy, but we have to remember that plants LOVE 85F. the point for me is that i do not have to run an air conditioner to achieve my target temp. i use only a dehumidifier and a 8" inline running at about half speed for exhaust.
CharlieBud
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I would love to hear a real comparison of the PAR-420 vs 600W MH for vegging.
brotherjericho
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This is actually where I would expect induction to shine, particularly if the PAR-420 was mostly 5000-6500k. Most of the incomplete reviews do show that induction is pretty darn good for vegging, its flowering where they start to show weakness.
Splifferous
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i'd love to help on that, but i'm reluctant to waste money on a MH at this time. my veg is currently running on a single Pro-200-PAR and a 200w EFDL from a different manufacturer, and i laugh at the fact that i have all the plants that i have under just 400 watts. my bloom is wrapping up soon, tho, and so i'll be putting my Pro-420-PAR into veg duty for a bit. the great thing is that once the plants are used to that light in veg, the shift to bloom is seamless. no metabolic lag from the shock of the spectrum changing all of a sudden. i'll be able to post pics of that soon enough. also, i just took a brief peek in veg, it looks like update pics and a vid might be due. but i also have a large run of BHO that i need to tend to tonight as well, so we'll see what i end up having time to get done.
ttfn.
CharlieBud
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I can put 1200 plants under 1W, # of plants under a given wattage is meaningless. The color temp outdoors changes throughout the day hour by hour, so I don't know how big a factor "metabolic lag from the shock of the spectrum changing" is.
Splifferous
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what i meant with that statement is the situation that occurs when you take a plant from the traditional MH veg spectrum and toss it under the HPS for bloom. the metabolic lag is what happens for the first 2 or so weeks as the plant is still in mostly veg mode but under a more red/orange spectrum. plants make an analog shift from veg to bloom, but that previously described change in light source is what would be called a binary change.
perhaps with that better clarification on my part, you now know what i was referring to.
CharlieBud
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So you are saying the "lag" is due to spectrum and not dark cycle change?