Indoor Gardeners and Gardener Questions

I might buy a couple LED lights (Bulbs) to test them out my self. If they don't work out oh well just meens I have a lower wattage light I can use in my house. =P

When using the UVB 2.0 lights when do you turn them on during the 12/12 cycle and how long do they stay on for?



Anyone know how big the root system of lettuce and onions can get?

i would assume you would use the uvb in flower and just have it on the whole 12 hours but im not sure. im actually one of those guys who really dislikes led, but thats just me.

and the roots on my lettuce reach down about 16 inches and are thick, onions are a bit smaller on mine. but they can be grown in smaller places and do fine, mine are so big because they have to the room to. could probably get by with 4 heads of lettuce in a 2-3 gal pot

If the LED lights perform very well then I would prefer to use them over CFLs. No the UVB is CFL light.

Wat pot size can I get away with at the smallest growing onions and lettuce?

well with lettuce, if head lettuce i would plant one for every gallon of soil. for leaf lettuce i would think 2 plants per gallon of soil would be fine, as for onions well it also depends on the type of onion, some need space to form bulbs some you just harvest the tops and some are bunching onions. just remember the more soil the better.

mcpurple said:

well with lettuce, if head lettuce i would plant one for every gallon of soil. for leaf lettuce i would think 2 plants per gallon of soil would be fine, as for onions well it also depends on the type of onion, some need space to form bulbs some you just harvest the tops and some are bunching onions. just remember the more soil the better.

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Cool thanks. The onions that I bought are red onion sets, the lettuce is the leaf kind (Grand Rapids). I'm thinking of possibly growing some red onions and lettuce to seed to harvest.

Anyone know if lawn grass seeds can be growen out and harvested once they produced seeds to make flower with?

Also the lettuce seeds that I'm looking at says 45 days but my question is how many days from seed will it take for it to produce seeds roughly?

sorry i cant really be of a help on this one, im going to let some of mine go to seed this year, i dont know how long it takes but im sur eit will happen

mcpurple said:

sorry i cant really be of a help on this one, im going to let some of mine go to seed this year, i dont know how long it takes but im sur eit will happen

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Bummer. All I know is that mine will take about 45 days from seed to harvest but no idea how long after that for it to seed. You have any idea what number of plant food that they love? like 20-20-20 or w/e?

CarbonX said:

Bummer. All I know is that mine will take about 45 days from seed to harvest but no idea how long after that for it to seed. You have any idea what number of plant food that they love? like 20-20-20 or w/e?

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you might just have to grow them till the end of summer to get mature seeds. and not sure on the plant food either, i dont really feed my plants i make my soil very rich for them and um not sure of the nute levels. i need a soil test kit to see where its at. but a 20-20-20 plant food should be fine for them as it is balanced.

sorry i cant be much of help right now man.

maybe some one else can chime in. i feel like its only me and carbon here. we can make this thread very usefull.

mcpurple said:

you might just have to grow them till the end of summer to get mature seeds. and not sure on the plant food either, i dont really feed my plants i make my soil very rich for them and um not sure of the nute levels. i need a soil test kit to see where its at. but a 20-20-20 plant food should be fine for them as it is balanced.

sorry i cant be much of help right now man.

maybe some one else can chime in. i feel like its only me and carbon here. we can make this thread very usefull.

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I'm gonna grow it out and make a log of it and depending how well it goes I might make an ebook and a thread on plants that are grown in pots and what not.

the 45 days is from date of transplant not germination. the seed will take a while, they will bolt n then seed. takes a while for sure. you dont need many plants to have a ship load of seed. cut when they yellow n put in paper bag n forget them. when you look a cpl mo later they will have opened and dried, ready to plant. i keep my lettace seed for yrs so no need to grow out too often.

4tatude said:

the 45 days is from date of transplant not germination. the seed will take a while, they will bolt n then seed. takes a while for sure. you dont need many plants to have a ship load of seed. cut when they yellow n put in paper bag n forget them. when you look a cpl mo later they will have opened and dried, ready to plant. i keep my lettuce seed for yrs so no need to grow out too often.

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Transplant? I'd just put it into a pot and grow it from there no transplanting

CarbonX said:

Transplant? I'd just put it into a pot and grow it from there no transplanting

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that was just rule of thumb... you can harvest lettace several ways depending on type. cut n come again, ind leaves, or whole plant. imo the maturity date is all speculation as dif environments grow different. its ready when its ready

Hey all. Ok so I sent a message to the company that the lettuce seeds that I bought came from and here's what they said

Lettuce Grand Rapids is a more heat tolerant lettuce variety and is
slower to bolt than other varieties.

Bolting usually occurs in lettuce during periods of high temperatures,
longer days (hours of light) and lower moisture levels due to the higher
heat. There really isn't a set number of days to bolting. Many
gardeners prefer to plant smaller amounts about every 2 weeks for
successive harvests which allows for regular harvesting throughout the
season instead of it all at once.

Lettuce can grow well in areas of partial shade which can give it some
relief from hotter temps - they will grow more slowly but will be slower
to bold in the heat of the summer. Some gardeners provide a shade
screen for lettuce from hot afternoon sun too.


I don't remember where I saw it but I saw a thing that you can grow tobacco you take some of it put it in water with a couple other things for a natural pesticide.

i am growing grand rapids as well, im letting one of them go to seed. did they say if they are self pollinating?

and also about your tobacco pesticide, i have read a few things on it and have tried it a few times, but i think neem and pyethrim ( or how ever it is spelled) is better.

when i did make mine i used tobacco, garlic, Cayenne pepper, and onion i diced them all up really small and then boils them for about and hour and then screened it and sprayed

mcpurple said:

I am growing grand rapids as well, im letting one of them go to seed. did they say if they are self pollinating?

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They never said any thing of that. They might be though. I found a Lettuce e-book and it says that they can but I never had first hand so I'm not able to say if its true or not.

mcpurple said:

Also about your tobacco pesticide, i have read a few things on it and have tried it a few times, but i think neem and pyethrim ( or how ever it is spelled) is better.

when i did make mine i used tobacco, garlic, Cayenne pepper, and onion i diced them all up really small and then boils them for about and hour and then screened it and sprayed

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Well I have used the garlic water and it works good my friend tried the tobacco and he said it works. I'd rather grow my own natural pesticide instead of buying some.

CarbonX said:

Well I have used the garlic water and it works good my friend tried the tobacco and he said it works. I'd rather grow my own natural pesticide instead of buying some.

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well if they both work, maybe mix them and it should work real good.

Is it possible to clone pepper plants and keep them growing indoors and get a bunch of harvests from the clones?

im sure it is possible, almost any thing is cloneable, just some things are harder to get to root. i dont know ho well they produce indoors out how much light they need

i over winter some select peppers. the smaller types i just move the pot inside n let them grow n finish out all the fruit they have set. i usually dont have any new fruit set aftere that but im using natural light n its shorter slowing the plant down. some i pollard the plant, cut 1/3 to 1/2 the root mass n re pot. the 2nd method allows the plant a head start the next yr. oh i dig them from the garden not in pots but pots can do same thing.