Insomnia help?

StevieStoner

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chewberto, is your friend smoking only out of pipes, bongs even papers? if so then me and your friend have the same problem. for the longest time i couldnt fall asleep at night even though i just smoked 5 bowls. i would try and fall asleep and would end up feeling like i just ran up the stairs or something with my heart racing so much. to make a long story short, before bed now i smoke a dutch master cigar (rolled with weed of course) to myself and about 20min after the smoke clears im basically cooked well done. hope if he hasnt tried it it works out for him.
 

chef c

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If I smoke a bunch (even indica like my cut of alien tech) I still have to peak out before I get tired on the come down. Have him try smoking a couple of bowls, like three hours before bed. Bhang (an Indian tea, milk and cannabis drink served hot) works very to keep the deep sleep cycle going after the initial stone from the bud wears off. I have extremely intense dreams that not even ambien helps with. This defiantly helps. If u need the bhang recipe I'd b glad to help, though I'm sure you've made this before for fun.
 

chewberto

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Yeah regular devices! I'm gonna ultra dab him tomorrow some 100%indica wax and see if it helps him thru it
chewberto, is your friend smoking only out of pipes, bongs even papers? if so then me and your friend have the same problem. for the longest time i couldnt fall asleep at night even though i just smoked 5 bowls. i would try and fall asleep and would end up feeling like i just ran up the stairs or something with my heart racing so much. to make a long story short, before bed now i smoke a dutch master cigar (rolled with weed of course) to myself and about 20min after the smoke clears im basically cooked well done. hope if he hasnt tried it it works out for him.
 

chewberto

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I fucked up and have him some ghost og and I just realized how much of a sativa it is when I dabbed some of its hash tonight! I may have over done it though myself!
 

lvtokerr

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I also vote for the bhangs. I like to drop a 100 mg caramel into my hot tea or cocoa. Then its sweet dreams. The heat really helps edis kick in faster.
 

chef c

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I would love a recipe from da chef bradah!
Bhang is a drink consumed on the Indian sub continent during the festival of Holi. Some preparations include alcohol however I believe the more traditional recipe will be better for this application.

heres what he'll need:

4oz half n half (for those w a dairy allergy, almond milk will work beautifully)
2oz purified water
1 tsp ghee (clarified butter - no milk solids) or unsalted butter
1-3 grams of sugar leaf
1 Tbsp honey (I like forrest, orange, raspberry or lavender although the more available clover or wildflower will also work.)
His favorite type of tea (sleey time may be a good choice)
muslin or cheese cloth

Prep: Start by adding the half n half and ghee (see technique below) to a tea kettle and bring to a simmer. Add sugar leaf and tea (a bag will work best but a tea ball or free leaf will also work) and simmer (about 180*) for 3-5 minuets. Longer will produce a very peppery flavor. You can drop the heat to 160* and poach the leaves for slightly longer for a slower extraction of cannaboinoids. Strain thru muslin and add water and honey (honey has been shown to increase length of peaceful sleep, no white or brown sugar please!!) and enjoy. Effects can be felt in as little as 15 minuets and last for up to 8 hours.

Ghee (clarified butter)

1 stick unsalted butter

Prep: warm butter in small pan over low heat until melted. Use a smell spoon to skim off milk solids that have formed on top of the liquid. Pour into a container and chill.

At this point I feel compelled to suggest that your friend pick up a book on meditation (or as it is often called, sitting). Here is a short excercize that can help to clear the mind in preparation for sleep.
Begin by sitting in seyza (feet underneath you toes pointing backwards. Placing a pillow in between your legs and thighs may allieavate some of the pain felt in the ankles and knees, although u don't want to be so comfortable that you drift... Some discomfort is the goal and helps the mind focus on releasing pain from the body) find a point between the floor and your nose, look at this point and release the gaze. Be mindful of your surroundings but do not focus on anything. Do not close your eyes. Push the toung to the roof of your mouth to activate your chi. Breath through your nose to your tan tien (a point two inches below your belly button also a point of chi). See your breath as white smoke swirling in through your nose and filling your core. Exhale the smoke back out from your core first, ending in your head. Inhale on a four count, exhale on a four count. Follow the breath. Don't think, don't try not to think, just sit. At your halfway point open the eyes and raise the gaze to a level plain. Breath in through the nose and exhale through the mouth, just sit. To finish sharpen the gaze to a point of clarity and rise from your sitting position.
This is an excerpt from an acient Chinese meditation used to focus the mind. You can sit for longer and longer periods of time. I suggest at least 15 mins before bed to calm the body and 15 mins in the morning to focus the mind. But starting w 4-5 minuet sessions will get the mind and body used to the practice.

Any questions, feel free to ask.
 

chewberto

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Great post thanks for everything! can i sub sugar leaf with hash? think he needs a lot!
Bhang is a drink consumed on the Indian sub continent during the festival of Holi. Some preparations include alcohol however I believe the more traditional recipe will be better for this application.

heres what he'll need:

4oz half n half (for those w a dairy allergy, almond milk will work beautifully)
2oz purified water
1 tsp ghee (clarified butter - no milk solids) or unsalted butter
1-3 grams of sugar leaf
1 Tbsp honey (I like forrest, orange, raspberry or lavender although the more available clover or wildflower will also work.)
His favorite type of tea (sleey time may be a good choice)
muslin or cheese cloth

Prep: Start by adding the half n half and ghee (see technique below) to a tea kettle and bring to a simmer. Add sugar leaf and tea (a bag will work best but a tea ball or free leaf will also work) and simmer (about 180*) for 3-5 minuets. Longer will produce a very peppery flavor. You can drop the heat to 160* and poach the leaves for slightly longer for a slower extraction of cannaboinoids. Strain thru muslin and add water and honey (honey has been shown to increase length of peaceful sleep, no white or brown sugar please!!) and enjoy. Effects can be felt in as little as 15 minuets and last for up to 8 hours.

Ghee (clarified butter)

1 stick unsalted butter

Prep: warm butter in small pan over low heat until melted. Use a smell spoon to skim off milk solids that have formed on top of the liquid. Pour into a container and chill.

At this point I feel compelled to suggest that your friend pick up a book on meditation (or as it is often called, sitting). Here is a short excercize that can help to clear the mind in preparation for sleep.
Begin by sitting in seyza (feet underneath you toes pointing backwards. Placing a pillow in between your legs and thighs may allieavate some of the pain felt in the ankles and knees, although u don't want to be so comfortable that you drift... Some discomfort is the goal and helps the mind focus on releasing pain from the body) find a point between the floor and your nose, look at this point and release the gaze. Be mindful of your surroundings but do not focus on anything. Do not close your eyes. Push the toung to the roof of your mouth to activate your chi. Breath through your nose to your tan tien (a point two inches below your belly button also a point of chi). See your breath as white smoke swirling in through your nose and filling your core. Exhale the smoke back out from your core first, ending in your head. Inhale on a four count, exhale on a four count. Follow the breath. Don't think, don't try not to think, just sit. At your halfway point open the eyes and raise the gaze to a level plain. Breath in through the nose and exhale through the mouth, just sit. To finish sharpen the gaze to a point of clarity and rise from your sitting position.
This is an excerpt from an acient Chinese meditation used to focus the mind. You can sit for longer and longer periods of time. I suggest at least 15 mins before bed to calm the body and 15 mins in the morning to focus the mind. But starting w 4-5 minuet sessions will get the mind and body used to the practice.

Any questions, feel free to ask.
 

chef c

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Maybe, ya... I'm kot sure how the hash will disolve tho.... try it and let us know. The great thing about this recipe is that a little goes a long way. I used to smoke a lot of hash and found my that my tolerence had gotten really high (no pun intended) from all the bho but the bhang recipie always was a knockout! That btw is my only complaint about the SEX WAX, its so potent that flowers simply didn't work as intensely as the did before. I kinda didn't really like that. I've always loved the plant so much and praised it so highly in an untreated form and then kinda fell into the "wax is so good I wanna smoke it all the time" that my beloved flowers had sort of lost their usefulness. Ill never let that happen again.
 

polyarcturus

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start making hash oil.(BHO) indica strain material would be best.

not that i call it a cure but it works when you need to sleep. i wouldn't want to "cure" my insomnia anyways.


anyway a joint slathered in oil. or a hot knife hit will easily send you to lala land if you lay down right after. some good brownies once a month will do right, eat a tray sleep for about 4 days.
 

chewberto

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Update... He said he already tried melatonin so that's out! I gave him a few grams of bho, I made 4 grams, after testing he got the remainder! I loaded him a huge dab of some other wax from the dispensary a few minutes ago, and his eyes turned purple and face turned pale! He wasn't sick looking but very sleepy, I wish I had some edibles on hand to give him! we will see how the Dab works! Apparently he took off a month from work to try and get his sleeping together! Wish him luck!
 

dbkick

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matter of fact I've been thinking about growing some valerian myself, wondering if I can butane extract.
 

dbkick

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I likes my benzos and that's the only reason I want to give it a go. because those uppity fuck doctors are tight with the xans!
 
It ain't a type of weed but try Melatonin. It's a natural hormone found in your body so it's good for you. I have 10 mg pills every night and it knocks me right out!
 

420circuit

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This patient tried melatonin already, not effective. I equate it to a soft blanket around your brain that helps you drift off to sleep. If there is something keeping you up it would be best to resolve what it is. If you can figure out what is troubling the patient, and get a resolution, maybe the remedies would work like they normally do.

A shrink might be able to help. I think they would start by asking the patient to write down the top 5 things that he is worried about. Next step is to get the facts on those items. Find out exactly what the details are so he can get them out of his frontal lobe. Just identifying what the problems are might help. The solutions come later, just writing stuff out gets it out of the front of the brain and stops the buzzing.
 
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