Is it time to harvest? Cloudy trichomes

NanoGadget said:

Flush if it makes you happy, but once a 'chemical' has made it's way into your plants no amount of water is going to do take any of it out.. that simply not how plant biology works. 'Flushes' and 'fades' simply exist to keep nute happy growers from burning their plants during the end of flowering when a plants energy needs typically start falling. Again, you seem like a very nice person and you should do what makes you happy, but if you're concerned about man made chemicals in your flowers then you should grow organic because whatever you feed a plant isn't going anywhere once the roots uptake it.

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Thank you for explaining it kindly. I know people get riled up about the wrongs and rights with this. To each their own though.
Yes I know and am aware of this view. I don’t know my plant biology but I also definitely don’t think it flushes everything you’ve fed it over the course of many months, there’s just no way. Once it’s in, it’s in. I chose not to do organic for my first grow but I may do it in the future. I’m not super like “omg manmade chemicals get this hippie outta here”.
My main reason for doing it is that I’ve smoked unflushed bud and I 100% tasted the difference in flavour. It also burned badly. So I do believe it rinses not all, but some nutrients after being fed clean water for the last couple weeks.

Once again, to each their own. This thread was to ask about cloudy trichomes, not what I’ve done throughout my plants life. It’s no one’s business. I understand if people just want to help but I’m not going to debate with them when I didn’t ask for it on this thread.

in every instance where i've smoked harsh bud with someone, they didn't dry and cure it right. a few quick questions confirm it.

Roger A. Shrubber said:

your leaves are fading because you've been flushing for a month and not feeding the plant....stop that.
if you MUST flush, a week is MORE than sufficient....no flushing at all is more than sufficient...but lets not go there.
the last month of a plants life is insanely important, and if you aren't feeding it, you're going to get midget buds.....

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You go on about not flushing because buds swell through having feed until harvest.
I've checked out your pics and your buds don't look no bigger than what I pull off.
What's your previous weights per plant and will see what your chattin.

if you start cutting back on food at the end of the plants life, they'll think they're starving, and put on a last ditch effort to grow a few more calyxes, so in reality, "flushing" or "fading" do the opposite of what people want, they force more nutrients into the buds....

auto1dwc said:

You go on about not flushing because buds swell through having feed until harvest.
I've checked out your pics and your buds don't look no bigger than what I pull off.
What's your previous weights per plant and will see what your chattin.

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depends on the strain, anywhere from 6 to 10 oz off a plant usually, in 10 gallon totes, under a 600

A little early is nicer than a little late.
I normally let mine go very late for sedation.

Roger A. Shrubber said:

no, plain water is not food...its water..if it was food, your plants wouldn't be starving

and i don't care about how many websites give bad advice, flushing is a total waste of time and effort, if you looked into the actual science of it, you'd know that, and quit wasting your time

and i'm honestly not trying to be a dick, i'm really trying to save you a bunch of wasted effort

people used to drive nails into the stalks of plants, split the stalks, do all kinds of shit, then they figured out those things were bullshit, and they quit doing them. the difference here is that manufacturers have started taking advantage of people who don't know any botany, and are selling useless bottles of shit to do a useless thing, so its in their best interest to keep this ridiculous shit going on.

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“Not trying to be a dick”. It’s already done so what are you expecting me to do? Give it some nutrients when it literally has a few days to go? What’s done is done.
Go debate it elsewhere. I asked if my trichomes were cloudy enough to harvest. That’s the only opinion I want from people on this thread.

100% get what you’re saying because I’ve seen people debate this before and I’m pretty much smack bang in the middle. But my decision was to flush and still is to flush. You can continue to not flush.
It’s not like I’m buying “use this before you flush” shit from manufacturers. It’s this extra thing I do that causes no one any harm. I’m happy doing it. The rest is no one’s business.

ANC said:

A little early is nicer than a little late.
I normally let mine go very late for sedation.

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Thanks
I also prefer some sedation and couchlock but I’ve been told Durban Poison won’t go amber so just harvest when most are cloudy.
I’ll give them maybe 2 more days.

DP goes redbeard if left long enough. Will put hair on your teeth.

I got 7oz dried from a auto Pineapple Express grow in 25ltr bucket dwc.
Using vitalink nutes.
Under 600w of cheapLEDs .
I flushed or fed plain water for 10 days before harvest and I noticed the buds where still growing and they where ROCK hard.
They also stayed rock hard after curing.
I'm not arguing, I'm just telling you what I'm experiencing ,so why would I change my ways.
I'm not saying your wrong either, but In the event of flushing or not,to me I don't see it as a waste of time in general either, as feeding plain water is quicker than watering and measuring your feed.
so if I flush for example with direct tap water which is around 250ppm, then I should add this instead of RO water as this still has nutes in it which means I'm not starving my plant.

ANC said:

DP goes redbeard if left long enough. Will put hair on your teeth.

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Haha yeah I’ve seen that. Tempted to leave the girls to mature even more but it’s winter now and getting extremely cold. If I plant her again it’ll be much earlier.

auto1dwc said:

I got 7oz dried from a auto Pineapple Express grow in 25ltr bucket dwc.
Using vitalink nutes.
Under 600w of cheapLEDs .
I flushed or fed plain water for 10 days before harvest and I noticed the buds where still growing and they where ROCK hard.
They also stayed rock hard after curing.
I'm not arguing, I'm just telling you what I'm experiencing ,so why would I change my ways.
I'm not saying your wrong either, but In the event of flushing or not,to me I don't see it as a waste of time in general either, as feeding plain water is quicker than watering and measuring your feed.
so if I flush for example with direct tap water which is around 250ppm, then I should add this instead of RO water as this still has nutes in it which means I'm not starving my plant.

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Exactly. I’m not saying he’s wrong either. Good on him for knowing plant biology and going off what he’s learned. But there’s a difference between advising people and telling them they need to stop what they’re doing.
My babies have grown loads this past month without nutrients. AND they’re not even getting good light. So if I’m experiencing a good outcome (especially where I’m situated) why would I change? It’s definitely not a waste of time either, like you said feeding nutrients takes more of my time and although I feel guilty being told I’m starving my plants, somehow I just don’t believe it. It’s water. Water is life itself.

P.S. I can’t believe you got 7oz from an auto flower, that’s awesome. I was looking into them but the yield they gave didn’t seem worth it in this country and its weather.

I'm glad you have agreed.
I'm not the only one that believes in growing the same way people have grown for years and years..
And then all of a sudden flush or not to flush is the debate.
If I see additional growth and swelling during flush period and I pull of similar yields to people that don't flush, they mention wasting time... As far as I can see you'll just be wasting your money adding nutes by continuously feeding till harvest goes to show you don't need too.

I wasn't aware you were running durban.... the last time i ran durban i ended up going 13 weeks of flower before i was happy with it. Durbans can run loooooong sometines.

NanoGadget said:

I wasn't aware you were running durban.... the last time i ran durban i ended up going 13 weeks of flower before i was happy with it. Durbans can run loooooong sometines.

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Daaaamn. There’s no way I can let them keep going for another 2 weeks, it’s too cold, so hopefully they feel ready within the next few days.
Thanks, if you have any other tips on Durban shoot them my way

KaylasKush said:

Sorry I should have specified because I knew I was going to get these questions. I say it every time in my other threads.
It’s an outdoor grow and the summer was terrible, so yes my buds are very small. I didn’t use any lighting as I brought them inside from outdoors as one bud was rotting and I had to chop it off. It’s been inside for the past month and a bit just by the window. It’s had no lighting besides that.
Personally I know people are telling me I’m being impatient but I’ve been as patient as a saint with this. Some of the bud is going darker in colour and I’ve read that’s when it’s past the harvest window.

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Their ready whenever i think, Letting her become more medicinal than psychoactive now,

KaylasKush said:

Exactly. I’m not saying he’s wrong either. Good on him for knowing plant biology and going off what he’s learned. But there’s a difference between advising people and telling them they need to stop what they’re doing.
My babies have grown loads this past month without nutrients. AND they’re not even getting good light. So if I’m experiencing a good outcome (especially where I’m situated) why would I change? It’s definitely not a waste of time either, like you said feeding nutrients takes more of my time and although I feel guilty being told I’m starving my plants, somehow I just don’t believe it. It’s water. Water is life itself.

P.S. I can’t believe you got 7oz from an auto flower, that’s awesome. I was looking into them but the yield they gave didn’t seem worth it in this country and its weather.

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I've done autos outside in 10ltr pots( not big at all )
They averaged about 60cm high and my highest yielder was 44g dry.
I watched a vid on YouTube about comparison between autos in coco or other mediums and deep water cultivation.
The result is awesome, have you heard of think different strain.
These are an auto that takes possible 2 weeks longer than normal autos but with massive results for the time scale.
This is what normal autos grow like in dwc. Massive.

auto1dwc said:

I've done autos outside in 10ltr pots( not big at all )
They averaged about 60cm high and my highest yielder was 44g dry.
I watched a vid on YouTube about comparison between autos in coco or other mediums and deep water cultivation.
The result is awesome, have you heard of think different strain.
These are an auto that takes possible 2 weeks longer than normal autos but with massive results for the time scale.
This is what normal autos grow like in dwc. Massive.

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Woooooah, those girls are insanely big. Very bushy, I would dread harvesting that hahahah. And to get that height and yield from a 10 litre pot is amazing. I’ll definitely look into the autos again.
What was the comparison? I use soil, haven’t tried other methods just yet.

Have I heard of think different strain? No I don’t think so. But I’ll look into it. So they’re basically auto’s with a better yield?

Ok, yea I’m not very acquainted with your grow. You don’t see a single amber crystal anywhere?

JohnDoeTho said:

Ok, yea I’m not very acquainted with your grow. You don’t see a single amber crystal anywhere?

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No I don’t. 2 people have told me I won’t see amber on a Durban as it’s almost fully sativa. Not sure about the accuracy of that.
I’ll look again tomorrow and see if any have gone past cloudy. Doubt it.