Is this a Herm? Also Pollination Questions

Hey Guys,

So I switched my plants over to flower on 8/24...4 out of the 6 plants are showing bud sites everywhere. These other two are at the very least slower developing and I'm questioning if they are maybe herms and that's why they are flowering so slowly. They are Reserva Privada OG Kush #18 feminized seeds and out of the three seeds I popped out of this bunch two of them I'm questioning. I was hoping some of you would be able to look at them and give me a second opinion. Also some additional questions would be....

-How soon after I switched the lights from 12/12 could my plants grow pollen sacs that could pollinate other plants in my tent?
-If these are herms and pollinated any of my plants that are female would the seeds be hermy seeds or feminized?

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Those all look female to me. Some phenos are a little quicker than others, boss. But, that doesn't necessarily mean that they are any less potent or anything. Patience is the name of the game. Probably going to have to give them a little more time than the others to finish out. Just watch your trichs.

If I'm running reg seeds, I will watch for balls during the first week. Males usually sex quicker. I just noticed you said you are running fem seeds, so, if you think you may have stressed them out enough to herm, you should be watching for nanners. These things:



Just one of those things can seed up a whole crop (which if left to grow out, would give you feminized seeds). Usually, if you are watching your temps, feeding properly, and not fucking with the photoperiod you should be fine. Just keep an eye on 'em.

Pinworm said:

Those all look female to me. Some phenos are a little quicker than others, boss. But, that doesn't necessarily mean that they are any less potent or anything. Patience is the name of the game. Probably going to have to give them a little more time than the others to finish out. Just watch your trichs.

If I'm running reg seeds, I will watch for balls during the first week. Males usually sex quicker. I just noticed you said you are running fem seeds, so, if you think you may have stressed them out enough to herm, you should be watching for nanners. These things:

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Just one of those things can seed up a whole crop (which if left to grow out, would give you feminized seeds). Usually, if you are watching your temps, feeding properly, and not fucking with the photoperiod you should be fine. Just keep an eye on 'em.

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Thanks a lot...They look like females to me too especially on the cola sites but the lower I look the weirder they look. Both of them are the ones that are directly in front of my oscillating fan...could that extra bit of air movement be enough to slow their flower time down or enough to stress them into herming. Other then that the plants are run between 70-75 degrees and humidity at 50-55%

SmokeMonster32 said:

Thanks a lot...They look like females to me too especially on the cola sites but the lower I look the weirder they look. Both of them are the ones that are directly in front of my oscillating fan...could that extra bit of air movement be enough to slow their flower time down or enough to stress them into herming. Other then that the plants are run between 70-75 degrees and humidity at 50-55%

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Nope, the only thing that fan is going to do is give you big strong stalks. Maybe a little stretchier, but thicker and stronger, too. In my tent, the corner that suffers the most fan wrath usually has the biggest colas. Your temps look killer, and RH is on point. Looking good, so far man.

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Nope, the only thing that fan is going to do is give you big strong stalks. Maybe a little stretchier, but thicker and stronger, too. In my tent, the corner that suffers the most fan wrath usually has the biggest colas. Your temps look killer, and RH is on point. Looking good, so far man.

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Thanks its good to hear from somebody with a lot more experience then mysel... it's only my second grow and i'm packing 3 different strains in a 4x2x5 tent they are all extremely close together so i'm just kind of being overly cautious. I have a feeling if any herm on me all 6 will be pollinated extremely quick but at the same time being in such a small tent makes me not want to pull them out prematurely and chop 1/3 of my crop by 10 days into flower.

How long if they do show any nanners forming will it be until they actually open? Will this give me a chance to try to cut off pollen sacs?

SmokeMonster32 said:

Thanks its good to hear from somebody with a lot more experience then mysel... it's only my second grow and i'm packing 3 different strains in a 4x2x5 tent they are all extremely close together so i'm just kind of being overly cautious. I have a feeling if any herm on me all 6 will be pollinated extremely quick but at the same time being in such a small tent makes me not want to pull them out prematurely and chop 1/3 of my crop by 10 days into flower.

How long if they do show any nanners forming will it be until they actually open? Will this give me a chance to try to cut off pollen sacs?

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Yea, with a small tent like that, it wouldn't take much to get a big crop of bastard seeds. Nanners can show up anywhere from week 3 through chop. Usually later in flower though. Sometimes from stress, sometimes from unstable genetics. If you spot one, pinch it off (jump in the shower after) and then just pay super close attention...by the time one gets spotted, there's usually more. Like I said, though, your temps, and RH look great, so that means you're paying attention, and aren't giving them a reason to throw dicks on you. Reserva's gear is decent stuff. Their headband is goodshit.

Pinworm said:

Yea, with a small tent like that, it wouldn't take much to get a big crop of bastard seeds. Nanners can show up anywhere from week 3 through chop. Usually later in flower though. Sometimes from stress, sometimes from unstable genetics. If you spot one, pinch it off (jump in the shower after) and then just pay super close attention...by the time one gets spotted, there's usually more. Like I said, though, your temps, and RH look great, so that means you're paying attention, and aren't giving them a reason to throw dicks on you. Reserva's gear is decent stuff. Their headband is goodshit.

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Cool I'll just keep a close eye on them and try to relax and hopefully get some og kush from them haha. The Critical Sensi Star from Delicious seeds as well as the Grapefruit by Female seeds is coming out amazing so far so maybe next run I won't plant as much of the og kush #18.

sorry but nanners/hermied plants don't make feminized seeds. they make seeds prone to being hermie plants. fem seeds are created by using collidial(sp) silver early in flower.

DemonTrich said:

sorry but nanners/hermied plants don't make feminized seeds. they make seeds prone to being hermie plants. fem seeds are created by using collidial(sp) silver early in flower.

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Yep. Technically they will still be female seeds, but they will have a propensity to herm out.

technically they are not truly female seeds. they are genetically hermie seeds (female/male = hermie).

DemonTrich said:

technically they are not truly female seeds. they are genetically hermie seeds (female/male = hermie).

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They are genetically herm even though they are crossed with a different strain that is from a female seed? I'm not talking about the hermie plants seeds... I'm talking about the seeds that come as a result from the pollen produced from the hermie plant to a strain that hasn't shown any hermie genetics.

Some strains sold are advertised to herm in late flower and some strains are made this way with pro breeders over the years.

Herms arent all that bad but depends on which side of the fence you sit on. I love em most hate them. In a small grow its managable but in a big grow it will severely make you vexed.

I never toss a seed that will grow bud herm or not but most growers arent such cheapskates like me...

DemonTrich said:

sorry but nanners/hermied plants don't make feminized seeds. they make seeds prone to being hermie plants. fem seeds are created by using collidial(sp) silver early in flower.

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sorry sir but you are wrong, feminized seeds are created by using collidal silver to make the plant hermie, then the pollen is used to fertilize the bud sites creating offspring with no male chromosone..no male chromosone means you cant have male offspring. so you are correct about the colidal silver but still wrong about hermie plants not making fem seeds, because they do. and yes they will carry down the hermie trait as do every other marijuanna plant. some plants the trait is stronger i will contest to that but i have used hermie seeds many of times and never had a issue aside from having to pluck out a seed or 2 here and there...minimal usually out of a 1/2 lb i see 5 seeds tops id any.

if you start seeing a shit load of pollen sacs or "nanners" start springing up i would recomend discarding but one or 2 in your grow will not infest your entire crop with seeds, or at least it has never done so to mine..and yes i have good airflow in my grow room. i generally find they pop up on the underside of the plant and usually its the small popcorn buds i find the occasional seed in.

as far as not using them goes thats your discression, if they were really bad on the hermie then i prob wouldnt, if it was a great plant with a good yeild and flavor but the only downside was a naner or 2 which created a couple seeds throughout your crop, well you would be foolish to not consider growing them as you never know what kinds of goodies await untill you try, remember you can always pull it if it gets to a point where it is a threat to your grow.

pics 2,3,6 look like they may possibly have pollen sacs but pic quality is poor so hard to say for sure.

2Hearts said:

Some strains sold are advertised to herm in late flower and some strains are made this way with pro breeders over the years.

Herms arent all that bad but depends on which side of the fence you sit on. I love em most hate them. In a small grow its managable but in a big grow it will severely make you vexed.

I never toss a seed that will grow bud herm or not but most growers arent such cheapskates like me...

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Ya I'm not really hoping for one of the plants to herm on me and get seeds from it...I'm just asking that if I miss a pollen sac and it opens before I pull the hermied plant out of the tent will the seeds that were produced from the non hermied strain be (hermie seeds, feminized seeds, or regular seeds)

DemonTrich said:

technically they are not truly female seeds. they are genetically hermie seeds (female/male = hermie).

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you are wrong again, if he bought feminised seeds they are genitacally female, female/female = female im not sure where your getting the male from but a plant that is predominantly female is still a female even if it does produce a couple pollen sacs..again all marijuanna plants are hermaphrodites, they are complex in the fact that they are a sexial and bi sexual meaning they can reproduce with or without another plant of the opposite sex..

2Hearts said:

Some strains sold are advertised to herm in late flower and some strains are made this way with pro breeders over the years.

Herms arent all that bad but depends on which side of the fence you sit on. I love em most hate them. In a small grow its managable but in a big grow it will severely make you vexed.

I never toss a seed that will grow bud herm or not but most growers arent such cheapskates like me...

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i have a hermie seed growing right now, i kinda hope it hermies again so i can get a few more beans off it since its a great producer.

SmokeMonster32 said:

Ya I'm not really hoping for one of the plants to herm on me and get seeds from it...I'm just asking that if I miss a pollen sac and it opens before I pull the hermied plant out of the tent will the seeds that were produced from the non hermied strain be (hermie seeds, feminized seeds, or regular seeds)

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if you do not have a dominant male plant and the pollen comes from a dominant female plant the offspring has a 98% chance to be a female plant. like i said earlier depending on how badly the plant hermies should be the main factor in considering using its seeds.

people hate on hermies around here but have no clue what they are or why they hate them, most dont even have a clue as tot he biological aspects of marijuanna's reproductive cycle. they just know male + female = seeds and they draw the're own conclusions after that.

i wish i could find the article i read a long while back that went in depth about the charecteristics of the canabis plants reproductive cycle, it dived into hermies and helped me to better understand them..i also used to fear them but now i watch for them and they can actually be a good thing, obviously they can also get out of controll and destroy your sensimilia (seedless marijuanna) but for them to get that out of control and you not notice you would probabally have to never ever visit your grow and if your like most of us your prob in your grow more than 3 times a day if your schedule allows it.

RetiredMatthebrute said:

sorry sir but you are wrong, feminized seeds are created by using collidal silver to make the plant hermie, then the pollen is used to fertilize the bud sites creating offspring with no male chromosone..no male chromosone means you cant have male offspring. so you are correct about the colidal silver but still wrong about hermie plants not making fem seeds, because they do. and yes they will carry down the hermie trait as do every other marijuanna plant. some plants the trait is stronger i will contest to that but i have used hermie seeds many of times and never had a issue aside from having to pluck out a seed or 2 here and there...minimal usually out of a 1/2 lb i see 5 seeds tops id any.

if you start seeing a shit load of pollen sacs or "nanners" start springing up i would recomend discarding but one or 2 in your grow will not infest your entire crop with seeds, or at least it has never done so to mine..and yes i have good airflow in my grow room. i generally find they pop up on the underside of the plant and usually its the small popcorn buds i find the occasional seed in.

as far as not using them goes thats your discression, if they were really bad on the hermie then i prob wouldnt, if it was a great plant with a good yeild and flavor but the only downside was a naner or 2 which created a couple seeds throughout your crop, well you would be foolish to not consider growing them as you never know what kinds of goodies await untill you try, remember you can always pull it if it gets to a point where it is a threat to your grow.

pics 2,3,6 look like they may possibly have pollen sacs but pic quality is poor so hard to say for sure.

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RetiredMatthebrute said:

i have a hermie seed growing right now, i kinda hope it hermies again so i can get a few more beans off it since its a great producer.

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Ya it looks like you answered more of my question in your big response and that the seeds could be more feminized then hermafadized if that is even a word haha. Also I agree with you that pictures 2 and 3 on the "A" plant might have balls and picture 3 on the "B" plant as well... I have been checking them every morning and when I get home from work. They havent shown any true sacs yet and if they do pop up in a couple places I might just pull them and try to have them survive outside and see if I can get anything out of them without them fucking up the other 4 plants...My main problem is not having two tents so I could just grow out mother plants for a more consistent result

May i suggest if like me you grow herm or selfed seeds that you try to get one herm to polinate another as if the same plant pollinates itself over and over it starts to degrade and gets fussy with ferts etc.

I think this is the best way to keep good genetics if your going down this path.