Is this bud rot, mild?

Brother Sweetleaf

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K, thanks all. I yanked her.
Good suggestion on the de humidifier, looking on Amazon as we speak
Yeah, this'll be good experience for you, I think. There's lots of info on Roll It Up about all this stuff, but I'll drop a few thought-bombs your way, because bud-rot has left me with a permanent twitch, & I can maybe offer a helpful tip or 2, Brother...

1st, if there's any question that it may be bud-rot, 90%+ of the time, it is bud-rot.
2nd, reddish brown is a natural color to parts of the plant, but when that color is excessive & you can sorta imagine a grayish tinge in there, it's likely mold.
3rd, even though healthy buds are soft & somewhat delicate, moldy buds are extraordinarily fragile & easy to mush & crumble... It's (not quite, but) almost as if the bud itself could disintigrate into dust like our heroes did in Avengers Infinity War/Endgame... Almost like that... Almost.
4th, Spores, spores, spores... If it's mold, anyways. (Sometimes, bud-rot is actually a disease called Botrytis, which is oftentimes caused by caterpillar poop on the buds & the effects of those caterpillar worms burrowing into your plant stems. Oftentimes, you will find a dark, round circle/oval in the stalk near a rotted bud. This is where the worm burrowed into the branch & tunneled itself up through the plant itself. Plus the silken strands you'll see magnified with a glass or microscope... It's all gross.) Anyways, you can be conservative & keep parts of the infected bud that appear unaffected, but spores are invisible, they spread, and the beginning of mold is invisible to the naked eye (as it grows & expands it becomes more visible), so I personally get rid of the entire bud, plus maybe one or 2 nodes above & below the visibly affected bud. Bud-lovers here will argue with this bold move, calling it wasteful. I completely understand that it looks wasteful to "throw away" bud infected with something invisible & odorless. But this isn't the Dark Ages, and mankind has learned that mold spreads invisibly. The alternative is to keep mold in your garden, invisible, until it destroys the other currently healthy plants. IMO, Killian123, you did well getting rid of the plant. ALWAYS err on the side of caution. I recon that most any grower who has ever gotten mold in their crop has learned to "rule" their garden "with a heavy hand", and has had to willfully choose a painfully difficult sacrifice in order to save the crop & still get something for all their efforts.
(Thanos??)
5th, Caterpillar Worms must be avoided early on. I used insect netting around my girls since mid-veg, and was fortunate to avoid a problem with worms this year. Sadly, I did actually discover 2 of the little bastards on my plant a day or 2 after treating it for Spidermites with Azamax (concentrated Neem-seed oil insecticide). I killed 'em, & if I missed any others then I'm sure the Azamax took care of 'em.
6th, Vornado fans frickin rock at really moving the air around, minimizing stagnant "pockets" of still air. Watch a video on how they circulate the air room-wide differently than a standard fan. I use a small, $45 table-top model that I can even lay down face-up, aiming at the ceiling above. When used with moisture-absorbing desiccant, it helped to cut-down on the moisture in my own ghetto-ass hoophouse last year (The Outside itself is obviously a constant cloud of moisture spanning the damn landscape, but stacking together all these little things does make a difference). The most important factor here-- to make my Vornado-fan/desiccant idea work-- is to have the hoophouse/room as draft-free as possible. Vornado really circulates the air room-wide, so ample drafts will "leak-away" the circulating effect from occurring. When the damp air is properly circulated, the moisture-absorbing pellets of desiccant actually reduce the humidity of the room a bit. I put mesh-bags of the stuff around & even between branches of my plants, placing it where it was most-needed. The effect was minimal, but significant, and every little bit helps when fighting & preventing bud-rot! (My own hoophouse was a quarter-hoop, attached to the outside shed-wall, & I didn't feel safe leaving a de-humidifier on, unguarded, out in the damp hoophouse at the mercy of the weather & the elements.)

Looks like you're doing well following good advice. I hope this helps. These are all things I've thought through & implemented myself with moderate success. The biggest thing is draft-proofing as best you can for proper air-circulation with moisture-absorbents and/or de-humidifiers.
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killian123

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Cant thank you guys enough....this is the one thing I didnt even fathom when I started my grow. (Mold and rot).

So I have been reading a few forums in regards to mold in greenhouses and was wondering which measure of practice is better..
1- fans on 24/7 with dehumidifier and relatively sealed greenhouse all day night.

2- fans on but open greenhouse panels during day, close it up at night?

This weather is killing me here. So much rain and no wind creating terrible morning dew.

The plant that has rot is in a separate smaller greenhouse and I'm finding more mold.

I'm wondering if I should just cut my losses here as I have to go away for 4 days.

Few pics, gonna look at trichs through loupe when I get home.

Again, thank you all very much and yes, this year has been quite the learning curve.
 

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JohnDee

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Another quick question. I got these two other plants(clones) and the one GC is way behind....
Should I defoliate her a bit?
My plan was to move her to greenhouse when I have room.
She is on the right in the first pic
Defoliation may delay it even more. If you have plenty of room so it isn't crammed next to other plants...then I'd just leave it be. I always worry about removing budsites and further decreasing yield. But I'm an indoor grower...
JD
 

Brother Sweetleaf

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...was wondering which measure of practice is better..
1- fans on 24/7 with dehumidifier and relatively sealed greenhouse all day night.
2- fans on but open greenhouse panels during day, close it up at night?... I'm wondering if I should just cut my losses here as I have to go away for 4 days..
Ooof. Uhh... Dayam. Generally, I'm a hopeful optimist, Man, and I'm all for standing one's ground, holding the line & seeing things through... But you just said you're going away for several days... You've done good asking, and I do believe you've got what it takes to cut your losses intelligently & still be grateful for what you did get to keep, which is awesome, because... I believe that if you cannot have someone else commit to fighting this thing tooth-and-nail the whole way through until every bit of mold is gone, then you're just delaying the inevitable and will have that much less herb to show for it. Against mold, even the most vigilant of growers is still harshly tested, and almost always at a loss, sometimes completely... Your plants-- on their own-- cannot fight this and win. If you cannot be there to eradicate this with all you've got, then I believe that you must do the honorable thing here, cut your losses, strike the girls early, but save yourself a bit of (perhaps premature) bud to boot.

I'm sorry for your loss, Man... For everyone's losses... This year, I'm hoping I can miss it all & have my first ever fully successful harvest (fingers crossed)... Just another 2 weeks, and so far this coming week looks like it could start-out good, dry & sunny here in the NorthEast U.S.!

To answer your original question though (for future reference)-- I'd probably go with Option 1, making the humidity-levels inside that greenhouse as regulated as permanently possible, which means keeping it as sealed as possible for as long as possible, without opening it up. Now that may require added expenses, IDK... If a single de-humidifier doesn't work well enough (with desiccant, a cheap "secondary-support" tool to add to your bag of tricks), then a second dehumidifier might be just the thing. But I'd work to regulate that room's humidity levels, and only open it when/if the outside has air that's literally dryer than the inside air. I'd hafta know the numbers-- the actual humidity dew-point of the weather that day and weigh that against whatever it said on my little inexpensive digital humidity-meter inside the greenhouse.
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omgBoNg

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Once you deal with rot it is engraved in your brain and you can detect the smallest sign, even on popcorn buds if you inspect regulary and closely. The more vigilant you are and the faster you cut it out the better. Chopping the whole plant is unnecessary unless it's covered and considered a lost cause imo.
 
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