Is this Nute worth buying?

mattyruff

New Member
I purchased a dwc hydro kit and have been running the nutes that came with the kit and with very bad results, i was researching different nutrients to maybe swap out and AN or GH are pretty pricey, especially for a small scale grower. I stumbled upon these nutes on Ebay and wondering if there worth looking into?

[h=2]Product Analysis:[/h]Total Nitrogen (N) ............................................................20.00%
Nitrate Nitrogen.................................................................3.50%
Ammoniacal Nitrogen........................................................16.50%
Available Phosphoric Acid (P205)....................................18.00%
Soluble Potash (K20)........................................................ 38.00%
Total Magnesium as (Mg).....................................................0.40%
Water Soluble Magnesium as (Mg).......................................0.40%
[h=2]Trace Elements:[/h]Boron as (B) ......................................................................0.20%
Copper as (Cu).................................................................. 0.05%
Iron (Chelated) as (Fe).. .....................................................0.40%
Total Manganese as (Mn)....................................................0.20%
Soluble Manganese as (Mn) ...............................................0.20%
Molybdenum (Mo) .............................................................0.01%
Zinc (Zn) ............................................................................0.05%
Chlorine as (Cl), not more than........................................... 2.00%
 

mattyruff

New Member
This is the nutes i'm running now, im still a noob to nutrients but is one better than the other? Also i was researching online and they recommend adding calcium nitrate to the currents nutes i have now

GUARANTEED ANALYSIS:
Total Nitrogen (N) ........................20.00%
3.90% Ammoniacal Nitrogen
5.90% Nitrate Nitrogen
10.20% Urea Nitrogen
Available Phosphate (P2O5)......20.00%
Soluble Potash (K2O)..................20.00%
Boron (B).........................................0.02%
Copper (Cu)....................................0.05%
0.05% Chelated Copper
Iron (Fe)...........................................0.10%
0.10% Chelated Iron
Manganese (Mn)............................0.05%
0.05% Chelated Manganese
Molybdenum (Mo).......................0.0005%
Zinc (Zn)..........................................0.05%
0.05% Chelated Zinc
 

mattyruff

New Member
Also is there a good forum that goes into detail about the chemistry of cannabis, as in why it takes in the nutrients it does and which nutrients do what?
 

superstoner1

Well-Known Member
That is seriously strong ratios. N=20%? P &k also 20%? Burn, baby, burn.
Lets get back to your original statement, "nutes are pretty pricey". How pricey is buying your meds from someone else? I use an expensive line of premium nutes with multiple additives from the same line in multiple 50gal RES's and my nute cost comes out to $1.25 per dried ounce. Not a bad return, huh?
 

tip top toker

Well-Known Member
How much experience do you have with hydro?

Can you turn around and know that the bad results are not user error, as opposed to bad products?
 

mattyruff

New Member
yeh as a new grower i did burn the hell out of my babies and just recently they seem to be making a comeback, the problem is i'm not only a micro grower but also stealth so my res size is very small about 1.5g i have been looking for a bigger res but nothing will fit in my box and allow for proper ventilation, my plants are exhibiting very slow growth and were showing signs of burn i have my ppm around 200 now. I notice that the nutes I were looking at are 20-18-38, which seems would be good for flowering.

I guess my question is should i stick with the over powered nutes i have or maybe look for an alternative? and is the alternative i looked up worth buying
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
why do noobs always try to re-invent the wheel?.. or in this case the weed?

best advice i can offer is purchase reputable, familiar nutes FOR CANNABIS until you have many, many grows under your belt..i still use fox farm myself..
 

tip top toker

Well-Known Member
I don't really see what the res size has to do with anything. you diltute nutes per liter. a stronger nute will call for a higher dilution.

From your post, i see nothing that indicates a change of nute brand would change anything.
 

mattyruff

New Member
My plants (about 4 weeks old now) were showing serious signs of nute burn from a ppm of around 400 is this because the nutes are "stronger" vs superstoner1's 3-2-4? Fox Farms reccomended ppm's starting off is around 600 for just week one
 

thump easy

Well-Known Member
hey new guys dont swet it... its all good in the name of trial and error a brain surgen didnt become a drain surgen over night so keep at it you will figure it out and if you need help just ask ill try to help you!!!
 

mattyruff

New Member
It remind me of Jacks Classic All in One which i have heard good reviews about, they just recommend adding calcium nitrate.
 

Frosty125

Member
Dont use that shit dude.
Go buy gh its really not expensive.
$45 will get u all three bottles grow, micro, and bloom all you're going to need.
An is expensive tho. Just sayin
 

firsttimeARE

Well-Known Member
What line do you use ss? You always say how easy and stable your ph is. My ph is always changing unless i locked inon the right feed. Which is hard to find sometimes.
 

superstoner1

Well-Known Member
I use botanicare pure blend pro grow, bloom, soil bloom, aqua shield, silica blast, liquid karma, calmag, sweet, and hydro blast in my recipe.
 
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