icetech
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I might have to try that thanks.
Jack's 321 Questions
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Haha yeah I did the same thing in the beginning the only thing that doesn't mix well for me is the Epsom so I dissolve that in hot wateryeah.. only took a couple of months to learn to not mix them in the 3-2-1 orderno more lumps at least now though.
thenasty1
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psa- 2 gallons of water in a 5 gallon bucket is plenty for mixing, any more and you may end up sloshing half your nutes onto the floor
arctic farmer
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I mix 198 grams in 5 gals of warm water with 66 grams of Epsom- goes pretty quick? Why are you grinding it? Did it get wet? The Cal-nit gets it own 5 gal bucket and they are both poured into a 55 gal drum with 45 gals of water.
TintEastwood
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Should have noted I'm only mixing for 7 to 15 gallons at a pop.
If I had a big boy res, I would be using 5gal buckets vs mason jars like you are doing.
I was trying to think exactly how you use it the other day. I guessed right.
5Gal buckets with a mixing pump at the bottom?
TintEastwood
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Then I would want 2 mixing pumps. Lol
Really? I would've probably assume epsom last. Thanks for that. Haha.
icetech
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I grind it cause the mag and cal are pretty big pellets for lack of a better term.. so i try to turn it into dust which helped speed up dissolving
arctic farmer
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my point was I mix at x concentration and temperature, and it mixes pretty quick, less than 30 minutes.
Epsom can be mixed in the same bucket with Jacks, not the Cal-Nit.
Epsom can be mixed in the same bucket with Jacks, not the Cal-Nit.
Jacks? That sounds like Mega Crop?
I've found Megacrop (v1) dissolves extremely quickly. Maybe completely dissolved in..20-30 seconds.
I didn't know about this, Jacks taking so long to dissolve. Good to know.
arctic farmer
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Jacks is a lot faster than MC
TintEastwood
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Agreed.
I've used MC V1 and V2. Have V2.1 on shelf for future.
First time using Jacks.
Compared to MC, Jacks weighs, and dissolves easier. (RO water)
Jacks being a 2-part, no worry about ratio of powder ("part-a") to balls (cal-nit).
All that aside, I do like both, and look forward to seeing which works better for my grow.
Always pros and cons.
Yeah same for me
We're not using warm water.
Your jack mix take "less than" 30 minutes to dissolve, in warm water? What's that mean then, 20 minutes, being generous?
...What? You're not making sense, or I misunderstood you. I said above MC V1 takes about 20-30 seconds (max) to completely dissolve, and that's in cool-to-ambient temp. water.
You've said you mix Jacks in warm water (purposefully warm water to aid in dissolving) and it takes "less than" 30 minutes.
I just don't follow you reasoning there.
Edit: I mentioned how long I've found that MC takes to dissolve because, I think, somewhere back earlier, someone said something about 30mins to an hour. I think Tinteastwood, maybe.
Greenleaf has said they have plans to release a new "2 part". It'll be a part A with all the good stuff like megacrop has now, and then a Calnit - basically. Something like that. As soon as the end of the year. Sounds more ideal in my opinion than a 1 part.
Skybound420
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This is why I often tell growers to just buy salts as you can make EVERY nute line on the market so long as it has a Guaranteed Analysis. With that GA, you can program all of those products in Hydro Buddy, set the prescribed dose for each, and calculate the results. For instance, I recently began running Megacrop Vegan (5g/Gal) with CalMag (5ml/Gal), except I did not purchase Megacrop or Calmag, I merely typed in the same elemental ppm targets and Hydro Buddy tells me how much of each salt I need to make that formulation. A few months after starting this thread, I chased down some really good info and shared it on 420. I mix my own chelated micro nutrient concentrates as well as all of the macros and secondaries into concentrates as well. I used to use Gypsum, but I had to keep that as a powder until use, but thankfully to make Megacrop, I no longer need the Gypsum or Epsom salt. Here's my thread on 420 on how to use Hydro Buddy, plus all the other shit I learned.
https://www.420magazine.com/community/threads/making-your-own-nutrient-concentrates.455187/
TintEastwood
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I'm with ya on this.
Except for the micro nutrients, no desire to chelate my own.
Excellent hydro buddy primer. I've enjoyed it in the past. And will probaby revisit next time I get the urge.
I'm gonna have to try real hard to not delve into that 420 thread. I don't have the time, what are you trying to do to me!?
Anyway - thank you so much for the hydrobuddy how to. I had a quick poke at the program but couldn't sort it out before I had to run. Plus I don't really use windows. But I'll be reading that and give it another go soon.
Thanks.
(Edit: Also, you're grounded!)