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Sedan

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In air space around perimeter for mold protection, I'm thinking to just place soil beds on the ground, not raised for drainage, i need 0 leaching and 0 flushing in my organic soil growing style, and for small drainage, maybe make holes coming out sideways from the back(beds are directly against the ground, not raised), and make small eavetrough type drainage around back perimeter of beds in that mold air space, and route water that way all the way around.. and bottoms lined with rocks...
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Not very sure that the bed lies. If the wall is large, fix the brackets on it around the perimeter 30cm from the floor., Buy a stainless steel mesh with a fine thickness of 3 mm. Fix it to the brackets about 30 cm from the floor. The whole bed is hanging-bottomed, too, ventilated. Then put a pallet on the floor, 5.5X5.5 feet in size, so that it bvl under a slope to you, put a bucket, collect the drainage there. And do not forget the bottom of the fan is not very powerful to put that at the bottom of the bed did not form a swamp. All! I would do so, bro!
 

Johnei

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Some of this I did not understand, I will ask you more about this later if you don't mind.

I will make design on paper then we'll talk. :)

:joint:
 

Johnei

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One of the pictures up there where Sedan said,
"
Blue: water flow.
Black: cooling fan turbine-Father's advice
Green: airflow
"
only showed a red x for me on this end,
so I now repost it here...

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Johnei

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Maybe, under the bed I will make around perimeter of room, I will create a air space/pocket in there under the beds all the way around, and pump air through it, if you understand what I mean.. hmmmmmmmm roots should go crazy...

Thanks for pictures Sedan!!!
 

Johnei

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Example what I am thinking...
bedexample.jpg

...to pump air into a space under the soil beds.
...with strong mesh wire and cloth bottoms.
?



Edit:
YES YES and use this space with a eavetrough for drainage!
I think I will do this.


Drainage:
eavestrough.jpeg
 
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Sedan

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Maybe, under the bed I will make if you understand what I mean..
Thanks for pictures Sedan!!!
Yes, I understand everything, Bro, it's easy)) it is more difficult to make a proposal, especially through gugul)) I can translate 80% of the text that you all write. The rest ... Google))) But I'll learn it by all means! Do you know the word Bistro? Do you know where, and what does it mean? In 1812 the Russian Cossacks celebrated the victory Over Napoleon in the Parisian cafes. And when they called the waiter, they said "Быстро", which means in Russian "quickly". So there appeared in Paris eateries "Bistro"
 
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ANC

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I would rather use a stronger fan for the middle, what you are suggesting is going to dry out your substrate very fast.
Blowing on roots prune them, they need oxygenated water for their oxygen supply.


Also knowing you want to do soil, you need to accommodate some weight, so it needs to be sturdy.
 

Sedan

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[QUOTE = "Johnei, post: 13634843, участник: 306078"]
Пример, что я думаю ...
[ATTACH = полный] 3970930 [/ ATTACH]

... перекачивать воздух в пространство под почвенными кроватями.
... с прочной сеткой и тканью.
?


ДА ДА и используйте это пространство с помощью дренажа!
Думаю, я это сделаю.
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There is a special fabric: the photo shows you ?? Buy her agro fiber, we call her. It happens of different thicknesses, you will choose yourself. Grid on your area at least 3 mm thick!
 

Sedan

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Pallet make of plastic, buy in a supermarket, he sells sheets, cut out the right size exactly!
 

Johnei

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Good points ANC, I hear you. will make bottoms like this | | | | | | | bars across reenforced. and maybe bottom layer I can make not so close to actual soil.. maybe water more often, but because will be rich soil mix, i need no fertz, and setup drippers all around room just fresh water. ;) idea just now, thanks!

Can you se what I mean Sedan in picture I draw, the design for 5.5 square, soil all around perimeter of room. :)
Pump air under all the way around, and put eavestrough inside for drainage. :D
What you think?
 

Sedan

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I would rather use a stronger fan for the middle, what you are suggesting is going to dry out your substrate very fast.
Blowing on roots prune them, they need oxygenated water for their oxygen supply.


Also knowing you want to do soil, you need to accommodate some weight, so it needs to be sturdy.

We are in the middle of the mesh hole we believe under the fan!
 

ovo

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[QUOTE="Sedan, post: 13634679, member: 952184"
Bro, well, what a shame it is. Shame was in Dyunkirk.))) And this I give you my experience. As they say to us: a fool takes offense, an intelligent student! And besides, besides Pegasus, there is also the art of cultivation! And this is far from being given to everyone! To make everything perfect! Here Pegasus is not enough, Bro! With the help of this setup, any gardener, even the inexperienced, will be able to increase his result without gaining additional experience, just by installing! Bro, I've been running this installation for over three years now and modernizing it! You think I took it from the start and received 2 kg)))) No, it's sweat, calluses, nerves and tears! In order to grow like I need experience, Pegasus has nothing to do with it!

I'll make the installation so that it's going to be a constructor, I'll ease it. I'll add the power of the fans, I'll finalize the ventilation system against mold. Cooling system and humidity level control. Then the installation will be ideal! I'm already writing an assembly manual. And most importantly! This is a guide for a beginner, how to correctly conduct a cycle from alpha to omega. Methods of feeding and adjusting parameters under the plant cycle. Anyone, even a teenager, will understand this.



Thanks, bro for the tip, otherwise I'm out of the woods wild, so still I can not figure out what and how)))

You see, you firmly declare that the halon is of such a capacity .. it was not there then))) a mistake almost by one liter)) .. the halon turns out to be different. Where is the truth?

What do you want me to do? Abstraction of some or Euthymyrus
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Sedan's English seemed to get reeeeeeally good in this post. :joint::cool:
 

Sedan

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Good points ANC, I hear you. will make bottoms like this | | | | | | | bars across reenforced. and maybe bottom layer I can make not so close to actual soil.. maybe water more often, but because will be rich soil mix, i need no fertz, and setup drippers all around room just fresh water. ;) idea just now, thanks!

Can you se what I mean Sedan in picture I draw, the design for 5.5 square, soil all around perimeter of room. :)
Pump air under all the way around, and put eavestrough inside for drainage. :D
What you think?

Two fans, one hood ... for now, for mold separately we'll talk!
снимок.jpg
 

Johnei

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are you practicing to grow pot or do you want too grow pot for real? get rid of that tiny light and throw that plant under a thousand watt light in a 10 gallon pot. too much talk and not enough action.
There are many many heads inside there you do not see, I am building something.
I am transplanting her shorty to Airpot then I will LST her flat. My magic soil is not ready, this is why.

light is brand new cool deluxe 400w MH 4-6inches away.

I understand why you say this. No worries.

-There is no 1000w room, yet.
 

Sedan

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We will muffle where it is blue, we will create pressure, so that under pressure through the root air would pass upwards! Let's leave a small hole for the hood, otherwise the fan will warm up!

снимок.jpg
 
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