I think he got your point Devil Dog. Be cool. We treat people with respect.My job wasent to know everything about the marine corps
I was a grunt i worked for my money.
I don't care about what YOUR buddy does go get your own life and quit trying to blow your marine buddy. We are pretty awesome tho huh
Your the one that sounds mad and like a idiot btw. Congrats im sure mom is proud .
Joining the Military
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rowlman
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My cousin joined the Marines because he was drinking and snorting out of cotrol. It was that or death or prison. He went to dessert storm, did over 100 jumps...and it changed his life forever...I have some cool storys...he brought back pics of blown up bodys and tanks and shit...for another thread.
He was bad at first whe he came home with drinking again, but he learned alot and is a good dad now and hard worker...no drinking or drugs anymore.
...but as far as money goes, they didn't do shit for him...he hates the military.
He was bad at first whe he came home with drinking again, but he learned alot and is a good dad now and hard worker...no drinking or drugs anymore.
...but as far as money goes, they didn't do shit for him...he hates the military.
I never joined the military. However I have friends in the states who did. "SuTraGrow" said it right. "It's what you make of it." Some had degrees and some didn't. If you ever plan on getting a high level Officer position, you'll need a degree.
However I know quite a few individuals who were in a similar position as yourself. They all came out of the U.S. Armed Forces "changed men". And in a good way to say the least.
But there are some downfalls. The first one is once you sign the papers, the United States Government owns your a$$ for at least (4) years. And if you try to leave and end up getting caught you're in serious, serious trouble. You're better off getting caught with a pound of marijuana than trying to leave the military before your time is up.
So it's a serious committment. Could be a great experience for you. A lot of my buddies loved it. But it's not for everyone.
The Recruiters paint a beautiful picture of the Military and are very good at word crafting. So make sure to do your research.
I would ONLY take advice from those who have served. My 2 cents means absolutely nothing because I don't even live in the U.S. (Thank God) and I have never served in my country's Military.
So talk to people who've "Walked the walk".
24 years in the USCG.
I grew up pretty quick early on and wouldn't change a thing. Pay is sub-standard so the incentive to make rank quickly I took seriously, and did. Now I'm retired from our uncles service and running a full service ____________ shop - something I'd have never been qualified for had I not learned/experienced a multitude of trades while "in".
All in all I had a great time serving my country, and I got to fish & party in some of the coolest places.
And I guess some might even hang a "Baby killer" sign on me, but I don't see that fitting.
"On the morning of the 17th, the pleasure craft Olo Yumi with 52 persons sank when the people on board panicked, ran to the stern, and caused water to come over the transom. The helicopter on patrol from cutter Courageous sighted the people in the water and began rescue operations. The cutter, a few miles from the disaster, broadcasted the emergency. Arriving, Courageous launched her boats, lowered cargo nets, and put swimmers in the water. She along with Coast Guard helicopters rescued 38 and recovered 10 bodies. These refugees had been among those housed in the Peruvian Embassy. One survivor, a 15-year-old girl, lost both parents, both sisters, and a grandparent. The boat had been grossly overloaded. Admiral Stabile sent the following Telex message to the Cuban Border Guard:
THE 35 FOOT VESSEL "OLO YUMI" NUMBER FL4860CU DEPARTED MARIEL HARBOR AT NIGHT 16 MAY 1980 WITH 52 PERSONS ON BOARD. THE VESSEL CAPSIZED AND SANK ABOUT 0830 17 MAY 1980 25 MILES NORTHEAST OF MARIEL. TEN PERSONS ARE DEAD AND FOUR REMAIN UNLOCATED. COAST GUARD CUTTERS AND HELICOPTERS HAVE RESCUED 38 PERSONS FROM THE WATER. TEN OF THESE PERSONS ARE SERIOUSLY INJURED. THIS MARINE TRAGEDY HAPPENED BECAUSE TOO MANY PERSONS WERE PUT ON BOARD THE SMALL BOAT."
Ref: http://www.uscg.mil/history/articles/USCG_Mariel_History_1980.asp
Ref: http://www.uscg.mil/history/articles/USCG_Mariel_History_1980.asp
Padawanbater2
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I spoke to the Coast Guard and it looks like all they have is reserve units available, that's 2 weeks a year and 2 weeks in summer, which is not what I'm looking for, so I've got a meeting with the Navy set up tomorrow and I'll likely speak to the Air Force before the end of the month. Either of those branches will be fine, too, I'm just looking for active duty.
Anyone here have any experience with either of those branches?
I took a practice ASVAB test earlier and scored in the 90%-95% range, so I feel confident about that, though I'd still like to take some time to study everything. What was your score before you joined?
Anyone here have any experience with either of those branches?
I took a practice ASVAB test earlier and scored in the 90%-95% range, so I feel confident about that, though I'd still like to take some time to study everything. What was your score before you joined?
With that sort of score you should do well Pad. I honestly cannot remember mine (from way fuckin back when) but I am betting that you will bump your fare share of dolts out of line.
Padawanbater2
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I messed up on 'word knowledge', they threw words at me I'd never even seen before and basically had to guess, so that needs some work. Everything else was pretty basic, 100% on paragraph comprehension, 90% on mathematics knowledge, and 80% on arithmetic reasoning. The CG recruiter told me they mainly focus on 'English and Math'.
The higher you score the better opportunities so I'm going to study my ass off before I take the actual test!
Do you remember about how much time you spent marching in Basic?
greenswag
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I scored an 88 and the marines, airforce and army all told me the same thing. "With a score like that you can pretty much pick any job you want in the military" with maybe an exception of a couple, so if your getting 90-95 your set for any branch you want. The pay isn't too great when you first start out, and you need to WANT to be in, or else you'll regret it. Don't do it for the wrong reasons even though I'm not sure what those might be, maybe doing it under the impression it will be a easy way to pay for college. Oh and one MAJOR word of advice, if you're going in, either go full out, or not at all. Don't do reserves. My brother is in the National Guard on reserve and it made his life a living hell when he was trying to do college while in. Don't listen to their lies saying how you can be in and go to college at the same time while on reserve. He would get through a year of college, and then they would ship him overseas, then he'd come back, and have to get back into the swing and before you know it, your sent back out again. He's being deployed a third time, and still hasn't had enough stable time over here to get his degree, it's looking like another year of school to get the credits needed. So either go active duty or not at all.
Also make sure you are REALLY clean for the drug test. They send it to a lab, and I hear people being clean for over a month are still failing, if they pick up any trace they'll send it to be tested more thoroughly, and then again if it comes up a second time, the third test is like 99.99% accurate so you better have EVERYTHING out of your system really good.
But don't get me wrong, I'm in a military family, and in a military area, not one person regrets ever joining. Times might get rough while your in, but it's a life experience like no other that not a single person I've talked to (and I've talked to a lot) ever regrets. The skills you'll learn along with things like self motivation, respect and discipline will last you a life time, and if you don't blow your money and live on base you can really work up a good cushion of savings from even four-eight years. There really is a good chance you'll be sent out though, even doing non combat jobs like working on an airplane or something. You may not be in the country, but if your doing jobs like that chances are you still won't see combat so if that's what has you questioning I don't think you should be worried. Really the best thing I can say is go talk to a recruiter for EVERY branch unless you know for a fact you don't want to join one. They each offer good benefits and all have something to offer and hey, maybe you'll find something that peaks your interest in the coast guard, you never know.
Edit didn't read all the post, my bad. It looks like your looking for active duty which is great and already talked to the coast guard lol.
Also make sure you are REALLY clean for the drug test. They send it to a lab, and I hear people being clean for over a month are still failing, if they pick up any trace they'll send it to be tested more thoroughly, and then again if it comes up a second time, the third test is like 99.99% accurate so you better have EVERYTHING out of your system really good.
But don't get me wrong, I'm in a military family, and in a military area, not one person regrets ever joining. Times might get rough while your in, but it's a life experience like no other that not a single person I've talked to (and I've talked to a lot) ever regrets. The skills you'll learn along with things like self motivation, respect and discipline will last you a life time, and if you don't blow your money and live on base you can really work up a good cushion of savings from even four-eight years. There really is a good chance you'll be sent out though, even doing non combat jobs like working on an airplane or something. You may not be in the country, but if your doing jobs like that chances are you still won't see combat so if that's what has you questioning I don't think you should be worried. Really the best thing I can say is go talk to a recruiter for EVERY branch unless you know for a fact you don't want to join one. They each offer good benefits and all have something to offer and hey, maybe you'll find something that peaks your interest in the coast guard, you never know.
Edit didn't read all the post, my bad. It looks like your looking for active duty which is great and already talked to the coast guard lol.
Hepheastus420
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"That a man can take pleasure in marching in formation to the strains of a band is enough to make me despise him. He has only been given his big brain by mistake; a backbone was all he needed."
You're a smart guy pad.. Don't die.
Your Asvab scores sound like they rock & to be honest I believe you have a really good chance to pick & choose services with those numbers.
As far as marching - I went through Basic in 1977 so whatever I did probably does not apply in today's CG - however I will say I can still execute an Oblique like nobody's business (Drunk even).
As far as marching - I went through Basic in 1977 so whatever I did probably does not apply in today's CG - however I will say I can still execute an Oblique like nobody's business (Drunk even).
Do you despise marching bands with the same fervor ?
Hepheastus420
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Isn't that what the quotes about?
But really, don't despise anybody. Just figured that quote is one pad might be familiar with and would understand.
Ahh, I get it.
"Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods".
"Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods".
patlpp
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If you have a high school diploma and good test scores, go Air Force or Navy Electronic/computer/aviation related. You can write your own ticket. Someone said USAF doesn't get into the shit: BULL. USAF is 40% mobile. They have Special Forces also (CCT, PJ's) but what is really nice is the Air Force has specialized jobs you wouldn't imagine. You may have an official job title but you probably would do many things outside your specialty. PT is now like the Army. Back in the day, all an Air Force guy would have to do is run a mile and a half in less than 20 minutes (30 for geezers). You could even opt to walk !!
What it does teach you, and what many need, is discipline. Your service tells an employer that you have persevered and can take orders from someone without copping an attitude. Servicemen are known for finding a way to just getting the fucking job done. !! That is an attribute that will get you hired.
I see nothing wrong with taking 4 years of your life and seeing the world and getting an education to boot (yes you can go to school while in the service) . You can get all this if you didn't fuck off in High School and smoked pot all the time. The sad thing is, many would just rather have everything handed to them instead of working for it....see how far that gets you.
What it does teach you, and what many need, is discipline. Your service tells an employer that you have persevered and can take orders from someone without copping an attitude. Servicemen are known for finding a way to just getting the fucking job done. !! That is an attribute that will get you hired.
I see nothing wrong with taking 4 years of your life and seeing the world and getting an education to boot (yes you can go to school while in the service) . You can get all this if you didn't fuck off in High School and smoked pot all the time. The sad thing is, many would just rather have everything handed to them instead of working for it....see how far that gets you.
silasraven
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fuck i wish i could. but im a section 8 and have the same problems as someone with flatfeet(making them unenlistable)
Padawanbater2
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What is section 8? Would they be able to determine that without you telling them?
I've heard people with flat feet would have knee, leg or back issues if they joined the military because of the physical aspect of all the training
I've heard people with flat feet would have knee, leg or back issues if they joined the military because of the physical aspect of all the training
When I was taking my physical at the Induction Center, I told the doctor I had flat feet.
He said to be sure to ask for flat shoes when I got issued my uniforms.
meechz 024
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Good discipline, you'll learn to work hard, face fears, learn new things, but hey.....Dogs learn all of that under their masters too. So do people who just joined an organized gang.
You're a human being with your own identity and you don't need to be controlled.
Think about it. Eventually you'll realize that you're nothing more than a dog in a pack.
Just like a dog breeder mates two dogs for certain qualities and sells the puppies out of the litter, certain Americans are being bred a certain way for a reason, and sold from America's litter to the US Army like planned.
When I say certain Americans, we all know who those are. Most Americans get the idea. A lot just want to feel accepted, much like joining a gang would be.
You're a human being with your own identity and you don't need to be controlled.
Think about it. Eventually you'll realize that you're nothing more than a dog in a pack.
Just like a dog breeder mates two dogs for certain qualities and sells the puppies out of the litter, certain Americans are being bred a certain way for a reason, and sold from America's litter to the US Army like planned.
When I say certain Americans, we all know who those are. Most Americans get the idea. A lot just want to feel accepted, much like joining a gang would be.