Kelp4less grow/bloom packs. Anyone try them?

alcohol

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ive not tried them but just found your thread after looking at them and searching for the same question you are asking.
They look promising and cheap enough to change out my rez every week. Just empty, add 1 lb of either early, mid or late bloom mix and add water. Looks like all the nutrients are there and some micros are chelated.

I would give it a go!
 

NeWcS

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I really like the idea of an all in one powder. I have been using a few of the greenleaf line of dry nutes and love not having to deal with a bunch bottles. I can't believe no one who has tried this has anything to say. I am thinking about giving it a shot. Going to email them first to ask a couple questions.
 

socaljoe

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Post back if you do try this, I can't be the only one who is interested. I only wish I had looked into this product before buying a different product from them...definitely would've gone this route.

Kelp4less rocks.
 

Jamming

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Yes, I have tried the "Grow packs" and they do work very well. The leaves are super dark green which makes them look very happy. I have run the mix at a lower than recommended dose also, at least I think that's the case. Kelp4less doesn't have the best mixing directions for all their products.
For instance, the grow packs come in two packages which should not be mixed together except when making the solution so they do not specify how much of each half is required. Their directions on the site as of 07/20/13 reads: "1 tsp to 2 tsp per gallon".
The question is, do they mean 1 to 2 teaspoon of each A/B component or 1/2 to 1 of each?

I've run 1/2 teaspoon of A/B per gallon and have noticed powerful results.
It's important to mention I'm running this in a soiless mix (roots organics) and not hydro. For those that are interested in using this mix in hydro, I'm not so sure it is the best choice. Let me explain, I mix this in a 5 gallon pale and after a day of 80 degrees, it develops a sort or stench which tells me it might grow anaerobic bacteria. Kind of like after adding too much molasses to hydro. That stink develops and things go down hill from there.

I have not tested this but wonder if running air stones 24/7 might help? It's worth a try but without, I'm not sure.

For the record, in soil, one thing I've noticed is the plants all smell the same. Not a bad smell, it's kind of nice but not a strong "Ganga" smell, more like the smell of the mix itself.
The plants are super healthy though, super dark green with steady growth.

Haven't tried the bloom packs yet, will report on those later.
 

NeWcS

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If I wasn't so broke I'd give them a try. I'll just have to use what I have for now. Thanks for all the info Jamming
 

NeWcS

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Well I never pulled the trigger on trying these nutes. I'm still pretty happy with Greenleaf's Lucas formula. But it will be on my list of nutes to try.
 

socaljoe

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On the subject of kelp4less, I've been using their triple 20 fertilizer and their extreme blend. As soon as I get my package from them on Monday, I will begin incorporating silica and cal/mag, the latter due to the fact that I'm growing in coco and am not sure my tap water will supply enough.

I'm really happy with their products and service.
 

Jamming

Member
It would be nice if they listed all the separate components to the "packs". I wanted to know if they were considered organic so I wrote to them about it. A few days later they answered by saying they are around 1/2-1/2 organic and synthetic. He went on to say they are testing organic versions now.
I try to do 100% organic in soil so I've been resisting the use of the bloom packs.

I use the grow packs on the smaller seedlings in small pots and they are super healthy and dark. It's hard to notice how dark they are until I put one with the others in which it really stands out and looks super green.

I'd like to do a single plant in a mild soil mix then feed it the various early, mid and late bloom packs to compare to the all organic plants. I'd like to use the same strain for the best comparison, we'll see if that happens.
 

kaloconnection

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I actually ordered 1 lb of the grow pack with my last order. I started using it last night, and i noticed my plants all looked nice and perky after. I'm growing in roots organics as well.

The ingredients are supposed to be everything that is listed in their feeding charts, but I'm thinking it is only those ingredients that are soluble. Directions on the pack say 1/2 tsp. of the A mix and 1/2 tsp. of B per gallon. I did a little less than that as my plants are still pretty young. We will see what happens, cant really beat the prices and free shipping on Kelp4less.
 

1itsme

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It would be nice if they listed all the separate components to the "packs". I wanted to know if they were considered organic so I wrote to them about it. A few days later they answered by saying they are around 1/2-1/2 organic and synthetic. He went on to say they are testing organic versions now.
I try to do 100% organic in soil so I've been resisting the use of the bloom packs.

I use the grow packs on the smaller seedlings in small pots and they are super healthy and dark. It's hard to notice how dark they are until I put one with the others in which it really stands out and looks super green.

I'd like to do a single plant in a mild soil mix then feed it the various early, mid and late bloom packs to compare to the all organic plants. I'd like to use the same strain for the best comparison, we'll see if that happens.
i think they have a link near the top of the page to see whats in their packs
 

NeWcS

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I would love to see them put a 1 part Lucas together. I think unless they do a Lucas I'll stick to what I am doing now. Maxibloom
 

weedemart

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it look like a good recipe for soilless medium but I wouldnt try because I already know what's the result.
 
Purchased a Bloom Start Pack from them for about $100. Complete waste of money. Plants starved to death on it. Completely deficient. I stepped up to using General Hydroponic Floranova Bloom $60 for a whole gallon! Totally blew the doors off. I have a side by side grow on a few forums. The kelp4less plant was dead by the end of the 3rd week. Unless they have since changed the formula. DO NOT USE kelp4less. False Advertising and their products just don't work.
 
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