Kids Not Holding Your Smoke In

bamfrivet

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I've heard some commercial growers like to use Spectracide or other insecticides used for decorative plants. Other than that I don't think its carcinogenic at all.
I'm almost 100% positive that anything you burn and directly inhale the smoke of is somewhat carcinogenic. Pot might not have much tar, but it has some. If your smoking out of a pipe and use a lighter then you get the fumes in your lungs as well. Anytime you smoke anything it's bad for your lungs. Pot just has more medical benefits than things like tobacco.
 

poplars

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I'm almost 100% positive that anything you burn and directly inhale the smoke of is somewhat carcinogenic. Pot might not have much tar, but it has some. If your smoking out of a pipe and use a lighter then you get the fumes in your lungs as well. Anytime you smoke anything it's bad for your lungs. Pot just has more medical benefits than things like tobacco.
smoked cannabis has never been proven to cause cancer, ever..... who cares if theres carcinogens in it if people have been smoking it for thousands of years without getting cancer??? just sayin'.
 

bamfrivet

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smoked cannabis has never been proven to cause cancer, ever..... who cares if theres carcinogens in it if people have been smoking it for thousands of years without getting cancer??? just sayin'.
I am not saying that it will give you cancer, im just saying it does have carcinogens in it, unlike what elduece had said.
 

poplars

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I am not saying that it will give you cancer, im just saying it does have carcinogens in it, unlike what elduece had said.
well as far as I'm concerned it might as well not have carcinogens in it if it has never caused cancer....
 

budlover13

King Tut
Not much. Just keeping up the fight for reason and logic :)

Hadn't seen you around in awhile but i've been hanging out in the politics forum for a bit.
 

tardis

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Im tired of hearing that THC is absorbed instantly. I just want to set that myth straight.
If your body absorbed the THC instantly(or even close) your partner would get high when you shotgun a hit in her/his mouth.
So keep blowing your hash hits out thinking you won't get higher holding them in a couple extra seconds.
Sorry, but I don't hold the smoke in anymore. I haven't for the last year after I tested it out. I do NOT get more high from holding it in, and holding it in isn't healthy. Holding it in is a myth and when people do it I chuckle at them inside. smoke in, smoke out, you get just as high. If you need to hold your breath to get lack of oxygen to enjoy your high, then hold your breath AFTER you blow out the smoke because its healthier that way.


I do not hold in weed anymore, and I get just as high. Fact.
 

Marlboro47

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Sorry, but I don't hold the smoke in anymore. I haven't for the last year after I tested it out. I do NOT get more high from holding it in, and holding it in isn't healthy. Holding it in is a myth and when people do it I chuckle at them inside. smoke in, smoke out, you get just as high. If you need to hold your breath to get lack of oxygen to enjoy your high, then hold your breath AFTER you blow out the smoke because its healthier that way.


I do not hold in weed anymore, and I get just as high. Fact.
How can you call that a fact?
I know from every day use that IF I hold I am exposed to the smoke for more time I will get higher. Im not discussing whether you get higher or not if you hold it in, I know for a fact that you get higher if exposed to thc for a longer period of time. Holding it in WILL get you higher, because when I blow that smoke out too soon I feel the wasted potential because I was having a conversation. Even while hotboxing you notice the difference, whether it is just a little bit or an extra bowls worth(which it isn't).

Now debating on whether its healthy or not I would lean towards it being unhealthy, because when we hold our breath we use the oxygen left inside of our lunges and if it is fill with smoke it isn't pure oxygen, making our red cells have less oxygen then normal, thus starving the brain(most important in this case) and other organs of oxygen.
Leaning towards unhealthy I can say that holding your breath in for 30seconds every time is probably a good way to degenerate your brain over a couple of years, I still think that blowing your smoke out within 3 seconds is some bullsh*t.

Edit- It takes me about 4-5 seconds to hit a bong at full force, holding it in for 3 seconds would really just be a mistake to me.
I take hits, probably wait 6-7 seconds blow a quarter to half of it out(usually not very smokey) then take an other breath of oxygen. Hold it in for half a sec, left half of it out, breath in to 100% oxygen, let out to 50% capacity, breath in to 100% oxygen, let out to 50% cap, breath in to 100%, let out to 50%, breath in to 100%, then completely let out and there is still tons of smoke there.

Edit- I get higher when I hold my hits in. FACT.
There is no point in trying to tell me any different, all the THC is NOT absorbed instantly. Animals get high and humans get high with second hand smoke. FACT.

p.s. I am not supporting getting animals high(some can get panic attacks).

Edit- The only reason why I wouldn't mind you blowing the smoke out is if you have asthma, bronchitis, lunge lesions or a cold(not that I would be smoking with you). Which is why I don't tell people how long to hold their hit in, I just wanna say that you get higher by holding it in.
 

bamfrivet

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it sounds almost like your hyperventilating yourself and that's why you feel like you get higher. See, now what your doing isn't really holding it in, because your exhaling and bringing in fresh oxygen, which isn't the same as just taking a hit and holding it in for 10 seconds. Releasing some of the C02 and bringing fresh oxygen into the lungs helps with absorbing more. Once the cells absorb oxygen or THC they stop absorbing anything else until it can release the C02 and other things it needs to release.
 

Marlboro47

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it sounds almost like your hyperventilating yourself and that's why you feel like you get higher. See, now what your doing isn't really holding it in, because your exhaling and bringing in fresh oxygen, which isn't the same as just taking a hit and holding it in for 10 seconds. Releasing some of the C02 and bringing fresh oxygen into the lungs helps with absorbing more. Once the cells absorb oxygen or THC they stop absorbing anything else until it can release the C02 and other things it needs to release.
Which is exactly why I let half out or so then breath back in. If you want try this, you'll notice that the first 50% that you let out is very clear and the smoke is mostly in the last 50% of your lunges.
 

poplars

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Not much. Just keeping up the fight for reason and logic :)

Hadn't seen you around in awhile but i've been hanging out in the politics forum for a bit.
I got a lil too into the drama and had to leave for a while, but I'm back and probably here to stay, just gotta stay high when I'm on this forum ;)
 

bigbillyrocka

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I just hold it in cuz I forget to let it out. Plus I like the feeling of my lungs being on fire. All tingly and warm. Especially if it's some smooth, tasty stuff.
 

Prefontaine

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like i said earlier when you breathe the gas transfer in the lungs occurs due to the air movement, if you hold it in and shake it all about yeah you will absorb a bit more, yes a small amount of extra thc will "condense" in your lungs due to temperature changes and humidity, but the reason your lungs are so efficient and the reason you dont hold your breath when you run is that the movement of gasses rushing into and out of the tiny little pockets in your lungs are the forces that allow for maximum surface area and gas transfferrence. I dont understand how this is hard to understand, you wanna get the most bang for your buck? get a gas mask and shot gun hits to your girlfriend. or blow your bong rips into a balloon so you can "recycle" *serriously this can be dangerous and suffocate you.

whats there to argue about? the principles are the same as maximizing Oxygen usage, breather deeper and breather more often, ha
 

Marlboro47

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Theres nothing to argue about. Its pretty simple actually. The longer you hold it in the more you get high, thus settling the myth about THC being absorbed instantly.
 
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