Killing the Middle Class!
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Herb & Suds
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Just one more thing we have Trump and Republicans to thank for
https://itep.org/final-gop-trump-bill-still-forces-california-and-new-york-to-shoulder-a-larger-share-of-federal-taxes-texas-florida-and-other-states-will-pay-less/
https://itep.org/final-gop-trump-bill-still-forces-california-and-new-york-to-shoulder-a-larger-share-of-federal-taxes-texas-florida-and-other-states-will-pay-less/
Fogdog
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read between the lines.
He's defending GOP fascist MAGA. He's claiming it's tax policies that created the crash in the middle class. Bullshit. The 1960's era middle class in California, after living their working lives in those great conditions in the 1960's, sending kids to those great schools, etc. voted themselves a tax cut when they retired in the form of Prop 13. Maybe tax cuts were necessary but the way those cuts were made is what created the California of today. They were cuts in taxes without a transparent and thoughtful discussion of how to pay for the cuts. As a result, those cuts went to public services like schools, roads, parks, infrastructure. The narrator glosses over that and blames immigrants.
The "tax revolts" of the 1980's and '90's started the trend to hollow out of the economy. Concurrent with that were stepped up attacks on unions and workers' rights. Then corporations began offshoring production with consent and encouragement of our government.
But I call bullshit on the idea that this is all due to a bargain struck between the wealthy and the poor. The middle class of the 1960's screwed their kids by voting for unfunded tax cuts. The wealthy played them. Those dumbasses were the MAGA of their day and they were a large enough majority to do great harm. As I see it, the conflicts and division of today is that kind of unthinking asshole no longer has the same power and thinking people are trying to fix the problems MAGA of the past created.
Hillary was right when she called half the Republican party deplorables. They are the MAGA fascists of today. So fuck that guy for defending them.
GenericEnigma
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Reducing wealth disparagement will turn the volume down on nearly all our other problems.
- Raise tax rates on the wealthy (not to accumulate, but to motivate true trickle down).
- Strengthen unions (bargaining power for labor).
- Nationalize health care (health care should not be for-profit, which incentivizes illness).
- Remove the private industry from the penal system (incentivizing treatment rather than punishment).
- GET the FUCK RID of CITIZENS UNITED. For FUCK'S FUCKING SAKE.
sweetisland2009
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How do you propose “getting rid of” Citizens United with that pesky 1st amendment that only seems to matter when it’s politically convenient?
The only item on your list feasible is removing private industry from the penal system which makes total sense. As long as dinosaurs and other proponents of the war on drugs are in power - I don’t see it happening unfortunately. What Biden signed in 2021 just created another loophole for federal funding
cannabineer
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that requires that one accept the contortion of reason that claims that campaign finance is free speech.
sweetisland2009
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Don’t you support democracy? The pillars of our republic? Wasn’t it the Supreme Court that ruled on this? My reference was more the right to assembly and freedom of speech
As soon as democrats stop collecting corporate money I’ll take your post serious.
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cannabineer
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My support of democracy has as a core component the disallowing of “one dollar, one vote”.Don’t you support democracy? The pillars of our republic? Wasn’t it the Supreme Court that ruled on this?
As soon as democrats stop collecting corporate money I’ll take your post serious.
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GenericEnigma
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Yes, corporations are people too, right, Romney?
Except they can't go to jail when they break the law, and their losses are socialized to the rest of us (while keeping gains private).
Makes about as much sense as the grammar in the Second Amendment.
DIY-HP-LED
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Victor Hansen is a WW2 historian and well-known racist fascist who went all in for Trump, his opinion on most things is suspect at best. He should know better, but clearly has learned nothing from his study of history, this guy has fewer excuses than most.
Fogdog
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@BugeyeDon’t you support democracy? The pillars of our republic? Wasn’t it the Supreme Court that ruled on this? My reference was more the right to assembly and freedom of speech
As soon as democrats stop collecting corporate money I’ll take your post serious.
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Money is not speech. That foolish notion will eventually be repealed. Corporations are not people. That foolish notion, too, will be repealed. This has nothing to do with the Constitution and everything to do with who controls the court. Or maybe who has enough control of Congress to amend the Constitution so that Federalist Society lackies of billionaires can't make stupid rulings.
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