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researchkitty

researchkitty

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The T5's are outgrowing the MH. I do have a lumen tester, but have NO IDEA how to use it. It was 80% off at the hydro store so I grabbed it for giggles. :) It has a lot of settings, what should they be set to? There's pictures of it on teh nutrient shelves over the last years i'll grab the make/model if its necessary too.
 
ledgrowing

ledgrowing

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lol fair enough i just figure 600w of led would veg that 4x8 pretty nice something to think about who knows maybe you will like them after a try but if not i hear ya there too
 
KlosetKing

KlosetKing

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researchkitty said:
The T5's are outgrowing the MH. I do have a lumen tester, but have NO IDEA how to use it. It was 80% off at the hydro store so I grabbed it for giggles. :) It has a lot of settings, what should they be set to? There's pictures of it on teh nutrient shelves over the last years i'll grab the make/model if its necessary too.
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Kinda hard to say really, you may need to pull those specs up. Ive seen some where you just flat out put it under the light and wait a minute, ive seen others that adjust for god knows what.

As for your T5's outgrowing the MH, im honestly not all that surprised. I personally am convinced it has to do with the spectrum/intensity that they give out. Again though, strain 'could' have something to do with it. I have 3 AK48's that are vegging now. its been almost 2 weeks and they are like 2 inches tall, where my last strain was like 2 ft in the same time.
 
researchkitty

researchkitty

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I do wonder, speaking of needing to buy seeds, are they as expensive in the state of california as they are to buy online from attitude/nirvana/etc?
 
KlosetKing

KlosetKing

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researchkitty said:
I do wonder, speaking of needing to buy seeds, are they as expensive in the state of california as they are to buy online from attitude/nirvana/etc?
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I couldnt tell ya, but in MY area, they run roughly the same from local vendors, except they arent in original packaging. Id always feel safer ordering from the source personally.
 
NewGrowth

NewGrowth

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T5's don't compete with HID lighting in the least. I never use MH, HPS has higher usable light output and work great all the way through.
T5's are great in closets or tents but if you have warehouse space they're a joke. Trust me you get way more bang for your buck out of an hid. High Output is just marketing term by the way, I can sell you some 115w VHO bulbs if you want to pay $50 a bulb. Don't by into hydolroponic marketing it's not geared towards the commercial grower, think farm supply, wholesale, and simple is better. How much have you spent on humbolt additives? I bet it would add up to a split A/C which would be MUCH more useful too.:wink:

To the Abe guy who has no clue what he's talking about:
All my clones are lit by 400w and 1000w HPS lights they grow fine under it, some freshly rooted cuts can be pulled further away from the light. If you think a 1000 HPS light is bright try the sun at altitude; the plants coming out of 1000w HPS to the sun get sunburned.
 
KlosetKing

KlosetKing

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NewGrowth said:
T5's don't compete with HID lighting in the least. I never use MH, HPS has higher usable light output and work great all the way through.
T5's are great in closets or tents but if you have warehouse space they're a joke. Trust me you get way more bang for your buck out of an hid. High Output is just marketing term by the way, I can sell you some 115w VHO bulbs if you want to pay $50 a bulb. Don't by into hydolroponic marketing it's not geared towards the commercial grower, think farm supply, wholesale, and simple is better.
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Wrong? Sorry dude but you need to look into usable spectrums. Notice where HID is in the graph. Keep in mind that T5HO's usually come in the 6500k range, FAR more usable spectrum than HiD. As long as you have the wattage to put out the lumens you need, T5's spectrum is more usable than an HiD's, plain and simple.
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NewGrowth said:
To the Abe guy who has no clue what he's talking about:
All my clones are lit by 400w and 1000w HPS lights they grow fine under it, some freshly rooted cuts can be pulled further away from the light. If you think a 1000 HPS light is bright try the sun at altitude; the plants coming out of 1000w HPS to the sun get sunburned.
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Well if you actually read the posts, you would see it was me, not Abe. But that's ok, you obviously are blind to anything but your own opinion.

Do some reasearch, look into light bleaching. Its there, and the science is behind it. Do i believe YOU haven't had a problem? Absolutely! That doesn't mean those problems don't exist.

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How much have you spent on humbolt additives? I bet it would add up to a split A/C which would be MUCH more useful too.:wink:
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I dont use any additives. In fact, im a firm believer that the only thing you need to concentrate on (unless a deficiency arises), is keeping foliage. If you can go beginning to end without losing a leaf (or more than a couple) youve done great.

Kitty, I hope i helped a bit, and i dont mean to Hijack your thread =D if you have any questions i may be able to help with, go ahead and shoot! Youll be getting q's from me soon on my 'Fun Guys' =D
 
rosecitypapa

rosecitypapa

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KlosetKing said:
Wrong? Sorry dude but you need to look into usable spectrums. Notice where HID is in the graph. Keep in mind that T5HO's usually come in the 6500k range, FAR more usable spectrum than HiD. As long as you have the wattage to put out the lumens you need, T5's spectrum is more usable than an HiD's, plain and simple.
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Well if you actually read the posts, you would see it was me, not Abe. But that's ok, you obviously are blind to anything but your own opinion.

Do some reasearch, look into light bleaching. Its there, and the science is behind it. Do i believe YOU haven't had a problem? Absolutely! That doesn't mean those problems don't exist.


I dont use any additives. In fact, im a firm believer that the only thing you need to concentrate on (unless a deficiency arises), is keeping foliage. If you can go beginning to end without losing a leaf (or more than a couple) youve done great.

Kitty, I hope i helped a bit, and i dont mean to Hijack your thread =D if you have any questions i may be able to help with, go ahead and shoot! Youll be getting q's from me soon on my 'Fun Guys' =D
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Hey KlosetKing,

What do you do in your grow to keep from losing a single leaf?
 
KlosetKing

KlosetKing

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rosecitypapa said:
Hey KlosetKing,

What do you do in your grow to keep from losing a single leaf?
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Well like i said, a single leaf might not be possible, but i tend to not lose more than a few. The key really, is keeping your nitrogen up. I keep a higher N count than most do, keeping basically all my leaves a dark green til almost the very end.

I also don't flush, but that's a different topic altogether (and no, my bud is NOT harsh =D)
 
NewGrowth

NewGrowth

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I'm not here to argue with "klosetking" :roll: I'm not knocking T5's dude just saying for kitty it's a terrible application. Now go on with your charts.
 
KlosetKing

KlosetKing

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NewGrowth said:
Because you have never grown cannabis in a warehouse.
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Sigh. Once again, you provide 'nothing' but anecdotes. How do YOU know i haven't grown in a warehouse? Just because im 'KlosetKing' doesn't mean that's my strict expertise.

So please, tell me, why would it be better? Because it costs more? Because it has LESS usable light for vegetation phase? Because it generates MORE heat? You have provided nothing but "i use these, and they are better cuz i say so".

Now you caught me trolling again. Many apologies Kitty.
 
roachclip420

roachclip420

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KlosetKing said:
Sigh. Once again, you provide 'nothing' but anecdotes. How do YOU know i haven't grown in a warehouse? Just because im 'KlosetKing' doesn't mean that's my strict expertise.

So please, tell me, why would it be better? Because it costs more? Because it has LESS usable light for vegetation phase? Because it generates MORE heat? You have provided nothing but "i use these, and they are better cuz i say so".

Now you caught me trolling again. Many apologies Kitty.
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not necessarily MORE usable light comparing the two. But MORE usable light when talking watt for watt ;-) not to mention heat. But thats another subject and I wont get in the middle of this. :peace:
 
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