Larry OG vs. Tahoe OG in Dual Monster Plant System (2nd Scrog)
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daveroller
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I think I should apologize for the insensitive comment I made about Lauren, now that I read it over again. I can see now that it sounded like I was talking about a piece of meat or something. Dirty old man Dave. Now that I'm high I can see some things much more clearly than when I'm not high. Didn't mean to be rude. Sorry if I sounded that way.
lordjin
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Oh my thoughts are very unprofessional.although it is a professional job ya must have trouble being professional at times .... or at least have un-professional thoughts
Once I was doing a NON-NUDE "Military Cutie" shoot for the boys in Iraq (against the War, but support troops in harm's way), and this chick just did that little pulling of the panty triangle to the side thing right in the middle of the shoot and showed me her pussy. She made me promise to not photograph it but let me look at it for a long time. It was all because she was a little tipsy and a little too excited about her new clit-piercing. Ah, fond memories. I massaged and sucked her tits on my balcony. They were fake titties, but still very nice. There is nothing like my weed mixed with vodka.
We kinda forgot about the shoot after that and went over to my cheesy-ass sectional sofa. Lots of kissing... probing tongues, tongue sucking. I just met this girl and she's a model, in case you weren't getting that part. She was wearing this camouflage thong that ties together at the hips. I helped her put them on. I helped her take them off. Real easy to take off... just a pull of the string and the hip bow tie comes undone... She was still wearing that stupid military beret and a green military tee shirt with a peace symbol on it. I remember the tee shirt was quite tight and the hat and her hair got caught in it as I pulled it off over her head. Hello, fake titties again.
I remember this clearly and in every detail because I was just slightly high at the time. She was a redhead (not natural) and had very pale skin. I remember her flesh felt kind of clammy because she was sweaty from shooting. Soft and moist. I laid her down gently, she spread her legs and showed me her beautiful clit-piercing again in full naked glory this time. Almost fully shaved, but with landing strip stubble coming back. I couldn't eat her out because she was afraid of an infection, but I clumsily ripped open the rubber I keep handy in the lamp table drawer nearby, clumsily rolled it on and fucked the shit out of her. I thought we were still risking an infection to her piercing, but she said fuck it... literally... just no eating out.
She called a few days later -- no infection. She said after she smoked my dope, her fresh piercing became so stimulated that she got out of control horny. She said she was pretty stimulated because of her piercing when she got here, but getting high pushed her over the edge. And it all started because posing all sexy for me half naked really got her going. One of the hottest experiences of my life, boys. It should also be noted that she was one of those 'free spirit' Burning Man types. She always tried to get me to go with her after that, but I'm too shy.
**Please note that my earlier comment of having sex with every model I've shot is not entirely true. This was an incredibly rare instance I thought to share with you. As soon as I helped this chick out of her car, she gave me such an intimate hug, I already felt something. I even took her hand and she did a little 360 in the parking lot like a ballet dancer to let me examine the goods... Short denim skirt and tank top. FUCKING HOT.
Oh, and she was a screamer. Kind of exaggerated, but she was really giddy from the piercing, pot, and booze. And she actually came before me! I'm not a huge cock stud or anything, but her clit was really excited from that piercing I guess. I think any cock, unless you're Tiny Tim, would have done. She just really, really needed something or someone inside her, and I was the only guy there. I really regret not being able to eat that pussy, though. I love eating pussy. And I'm not good at it... I'm an artist at it. I've studied female anatomy extensively in my applied art training, and I have an intimate understanding of vaginal anatomy and how everything works. POICE!
I may have hinted at this scenario before in my earlier days of posting, but I didn't reveal the whole story until now. I guess I thought it was too early for me to start bragging about my model-sex experience... but now? I'm feeling really 'free' these days. Lol. I haven't had any sex during a photo shoot apart from that. There was this one time I got laid with a hot go go dancer up in Frisco when I was helping my buddy with his bikini site, but that's all. Sorry guys.
And you know what was the hottest part? After we were fully dressed, I sat at a table filling out the model release forms, and I remember telling her how 'fuckin' cute' she was as she was just standing there in front of me. I pulled her closer to me by her butt and just kept telling her how 'fuckin' cute' she was. LOL! She had that 'baby talk' voice going big time by that point and just kept saying "really? thank you..."
We hung out a few more times at social gatherings, but never had sex again. It wasn't a 'relationship' thing, and I'm man enough to understand that about a person like her. She's married now and we're still friends... And she still DOESN'T shoot nudes!
Edit:
Of course once FemCult is going strong, this sort of thing will be commonplace for me and Sleezy1. It was an incredible experience. So much so, a few days afterward, I wrote a song called "I Fucked a Model." I now realize that it's something that should become so regular, that it becomes a lifestyle for me and Sleeze. And it will.
And yeah, she kept her dog tags on. INCREDIBLE. This is why I studied art and photography.
billcollector99
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Shit I was hoping you could teach me based on your tahoe nugs
lordjin
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We learn from one another, friend. You just showed me something.Shit I was hoping you could teach me based on your tahoe nugs
lordjin
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Forget it. Let's just have fun now.
flowamasta
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nice read....... funny peoples and Lordjin, that detailed story almost had me fucking her in my head!! man. and those ladies are looking beeeeeeeeeautiful!!!
just a thought, u probably aren't into my idea, can i ask why you don't top your main branch? i mean, i love what you are doing, and i read everyday, and however you choose is not in any way wrong, but i just think it would help all your lower growth come up, and bush out a bit more, i have tried now with a theory, topping some main branches and some not.... the ones i did, got 2 huge colas, instead of one.... i previously thought it would divide the cells and they would split into 2 smaller, but this is deffinately not the case, and in my opinion, increases yield, and may only shock her for a night, or 2 tops....
good work man, don't worry bout those spots, u got your shit worked out, i'm thinkin they were in the leaves before they grew to that size, that's why its minimal
they look really healthy, hey i'm on day 8 veg just hit turbo boost!!! yyeeeeeee hhaaaa, now back to looking at Lauren, more please, i ask ever so nicely
and Lordjin, that detailed story almost had me fucking her in my head!! man. and those ladies are looking beeeeeeeeeautiful!!!just a thought, u probably aren't into my idea, can i ask why you don't top your main branch? i mean, i love what you are doing, and i read everyday, and however you choose is not in any way wrong, but i just think it would help all your lower growth come up, and bush out a bit more, i have tried now with a theory, topping some main branches and some not.... the ones i did, got 2 huge colas, instead of one.... i previously thought it would divide the cells and they would split into 2 smaller, but this is deffinately not the case, and in my opinion, increases yield, and may only shock her for a night, or 2 tops....
good work man, don't worry bout those spots, u got your shit worked out, i'm thinkin they were in the leaves before they grew to that size, that's why its minimal
they look really healthy, hey i'm on day 8 veg
just hit turbo boost!!! yyeeeeeee hhaaaa, now back to looking at Lauren, more please, i ask ever so nicely
billcollector99
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Topping doesnt have the same effect on clones as it does on seeds. Using his scrog screen will create the effect that you are trying to achieve by toppingnice read....... funny peoples
just a thought, u probably aren't into my idea, can i ask why you don't top your main branch? i mean, i love what you are doing, and i read everyday, and however you choose is not in any way wrong, but i just think it would help all your lower growth come up, and bush out a bit more, i have tried now with a theory, topping some main branches and some not.... the ones i did, got 2 huge colas, instead of one.... i previously thought it would divide the cells and they would split into 2 smaller, but this is deffinately not the case, and in my opinion, increases yield, and may only shock her for a night, or 2 tops....
good work man, don't worry bout those spots, u got your shit worked out, i'm thinkin they were in the leaves before they grew to that size, that's why its minimal
they look really healthy, hey i'm on day 8 veg
flowamasta
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so these were not seeds?? sorry if i'm way off there ey, i top my clones thats all, i myself havent started an indoor from seed,Topping doesnt have the same effect on clones as it does on seeds. Using his scrog screen will create the effect that you are trying to achieve by topping
but i'm thinking plants will all react the same to topping, how and why can there be a difference, the plants cell structure is not that different surely?
Lordjin?
and i sort of scrog screen, i use 2 layers of netting
lordjin
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That's a good question, bro. Unfortunately, I'm not a botanist... Just a grower. I like what Bill said about the screen, and I would tend to "not disagree" with it.
What I can say from observation is that growth characteristics between a seed plant and a clone are pretty different. Through the process of cloning, I can see something changing not in the molecular structure itself, but the manner in which the cells divide and structure. Whoo! How's that for some brainy sounding conjecture? I'm a real authority on making guesses and hogwash sound like science. Lol.
DST
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I think it really depends on the genetic makeup of the plant.
I guess it could be answered in many ways but it will in some way depend I think on the hormones present in the plant. Plant auxins or naturally produced ones can react differently to diferent environments and as such the level of auxins present in plants and how they react with each other in the plant will determine plant structures, leave development and in some auxins root creation. So I would say it depends very much on the genetic make up of the plant.....that would be one suggestion for some plants acting differently to topping.
I guess it could be answered in many ways but it will in some way depend I think on the hormones present in the plant. Plant auxins or naturally produced ones can react differently to diferent environments and as such the level of auxins present in plants and how they react with each other in the plant will determine plant structures, leave development and in some auxins root creation. So I would say it depends very much on the genetic make up of the plant.....that would be one suggestion for some plants acting differently to topping.
lordjin
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I think the Larry may have been the one to top if any. The Tahoe is just a monster bitch in heat... I'm actually starting to get a little afraid of her. But the Larry is super lanky and viney.nice read....... funny peoples
just a thought, u probably aren't into my idea, can i ask why you don't top your main branch? i mean, i love what you are doing, and i read everyday, and however you choose is not in any way wrong, but i just think it would help all your lower growth come up, and bush out a bit more, i have tried now with a theory, topping some main branches and some not.... the ones i did, got 2 huge colas, instead of one.... i previously thought it would divide the cells and they would split into 2 smaller, but this is deffinately not the case, and in my opinion, increases yield, and may only shock her for a night, or 2 tops....
good work man, don't worry bout those spots, u got your shit worked out, i'm thinkin they were in the leaves before they grew to that size, that's why its minimal
they look really healthy, hey i'm on day 8 veg
As a side note: Thanks to Bill's recent intervention, I'm beginning to think I was running my PH way too low all this time. He's totally right about that, y'all. I made a noob mistake in diagnosing my leaf discoloration incorrectly as nute burn when it was low mag. I humbly stand corrected and thank Bill for his great contribution to my thread.
Oh, and the reason I don't chop is that it just kinda' seems harsh to me.
lordjin
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Okay, so I've been good and smoking those squat, triangular mid-grade nugs these past two weeks, saving this, the top grade nug, for the month cure report.
Well I would say after close to four weeks of sitting in jars with periodic burping, the nugs have compacted into that nice 'shriveled rock' character. I would think the shops would kill for this.
Cutting a nug open always tells the real story. You have to see the bud's direct cross-sectional view in order to properly evaluate density imo. This cuts like cement. Core density on this strain is excellent. No breaking it up with fingers or twisting one of those hockey puck grinders here. It wouldn't be practical, so I don't even bother.
And look at the beauty of that cut. Again, a grinder isn't going to help you here. This Tahoe variety is a very high-ranking OG Elite.
Well I would say after close to four weeks of sitting in jars with periodic burping, the nugs have compacted into that nice 'shriveled rock' character. I would think the shops would kill for this.
Cutting a nug open always tells the real story. You have to see the bud's direct cross-sectional view in order to properly evaluate density imo. This cuts like cement. Core density on this strain is excellent. No breaking it up with fingers or twisting one of those hockey puck grinders here. It wouldn't be practical, so I don't even bother.
And look at the beauty of that cut. Again, a grinder isn't going to help you here. This Tahoe variety is a very high-ranking OG Elite.
flowamasta
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have you checked my thread on grow no.3? i topped a couple of days ago, and check the new growth out, now 8 main branches, instead of 1 !!!
i know it sounds harsh, but it really isnt, the guy who taught me almost everything i know, tops his everytime, without it yield drops dramatically!! and i mean DRAMATICALLY!! i really think it would be bennaficial, and i'm only talking 1 or 2 nodes, within 1 night, i guarantee u will see the growth below it keep growing, if not substantially increase. or i'll post pics of me eating my shoe, and you may find yourself with a huge 'crown' cola instead of 1 main
just a few thoughts of taught wisdom i suppose you could say!, when he taught me the first time, he came over on day 5 veg, and SNIP!!! off came 3 - 4 nodes off the top! man i nearly dropped him then and there!!, never in my mind would i thought to have done that! i didnt want to stunt growth (thinking) as i only get 3 months to grow in. 1 week later i had a mini bush that was ready to explode, 2 weeks later after that, i was ready to top another 8 times!!!!! yep i kid you not
my first grow was insane, i was thinkin, how could it be this easy!!?? and it was probably the best erb i have ever smoked. it gave me the biggest head ever, my mate said it was well deserved though!!
if you are afraid, then it sounds like it could be a good thing!! being afraid of things can lead to amazing things.
i swear it will not harm your yield. you could have 2 or 3 more arms to train
up to you legend, i still think it takes a special master to grow ' i call it bubbleponics' or however you call yours.
quality man. quality, i'm just trying to help is all, take my words however you like, all good energy man
billcollector99
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lordjin
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I'm not sure yet. I'll prob veg around 30 days.
This is all I can show.
God bless America! USA! USA! USA!
Edit:
Hello? High Times doesn't have stuff like this, does it?
Bucket head
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camo labia!
flowamasta
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yeah , man, like i said not dissing the way you guys wanna do it, but have you ever done it the other way??
saying goes don't knock it till you try it, well years have gone by without EVER DOING it, and now i'm doing it to every plant i have, the result are incomprehensible , and undeniable.
Good work guys, i'll keep on reading thats for sure!
in my head i see soo many advantages.
1. the energy goes to making new roots
2. the growth below the node cut increases thickness, and strength
3. 2 big buds instead of 1.....um ,.... why not eh?
4. can even be done in start of flowering to stop certain branches from stretching
my 'teacher' states that for a plant to flourish, it has to go through some stresses, it's like us humans, if we never get sick, how strong are are we? because we get sick, we get stronger and build an immunity. well plants are similar.
why do plants respond well to tying down?, cause its unnatural. like hydro. it is still unnatural, but thats the whole point is it not. its not to 'mimic' mother nature, but to enhance mother natures characteristics, and cheat. we grow hydro so we can control the environment more so, and speed up the process.
I thought we were going for quality not quantitiy ??? well i am, and by the looks of Lordjin Grade A1 Tahoe, it deserves all the growing secrets that old wisdom has to offer. if you have never done it, why not just once?? or i'll look like a fool telling you this dribble..
thats all i have to say on this topic, sorry to go on about it, i just understand and have researched exstensivly on topping and control methods. My 'teacher' would not do this for 20 years if it wasnt benaficial!!! facts
and what if it's a miracle? a new key to more success?? you deserve it Lordjin, i think you are a legend!!
wow thats my $5 buks worth, i had to unleash sorry man, don't be hatin!!! im a follower and a guide!!
stay tuned for my explosive new growth in my grow no.3!! she's taking off like appollo .
flowamasta
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man i hope that made sense, i woke up and had a bucket