Larry OG vs. Tahoe OG in Dual Monster Plant System (2nd Scrog)

323cheezy said:

Hey jin nice to see your gonna do it on your own ..
This would save me allot of time... 2hr round tripp..lol
Po is great man ... theyve done allot for me... they really have a great lineup and have done there best to let out some of the best to the regular population..
I can tell u allot of people dont like goin to collectives when your dealing with clones...
Its risky bissiness... but for the most part ..if u go that route ...po would be your best bet...
Dont get me wrong ... Po can pass out under par cuts ... but nost people respect the quality of there genetics and can deal with health issues in veg ...easily...
Po took a hard hit last year ... several growers.that i know personally and have heard it straight from their mouth.. not newbs... im talking good growers had issues with plants not fully flowering...
Some thought tmv or broad mites....but its not really clear.....
They did there best to renevate everything and get rid of the problemm..
They really had a major clearout and lost allot of mothers... yet ill stand bye them...
I acctually feel bad for all they had to go through..
Now you got to respect what an explosive element po is...
Theyre not really a couple of people with the holy grail or anything...
They have allot of breeders volunteers , come and go , and many of them add their own to the collective,...
Along with random well respected growers who drop offf cuts weekly ...
We are po .... that is every member of po is po.....
Their really just a group of growers out there who have went lengths to source out real cuts and share them .. for everyone.
..most of the time...After alll most of their winiing strains were from OGorganic... and swerve vended there too..
Let me make it clear tho that u cant just walk into po and expect to get tightly held cuts...
Tahoe is one they have always availible , always in stock, and been released and whored out for along time now...
Their larry is legit too... the skywalker isnt the origional , its a good rep. but more a select pheno from a skywalker s1...
I would reccomend u goin with the 91 og ... i cant tell u allot about it... its not the origional ... but definatelly almost exactly the same... and im mothering on out....
Looks straight up og...and they kicked it down to me... closest thing on their menu to gams home of the 91's og...
On the other hand theirs cuts you cant get from them ... sometimes growers will trade cuts and po will take on cuts from members that cant be released ...
I know it sux ...Sometimes tho theyll mention they release it to well respected members of the club..
I tend not to try to beg for certain genetics... i know theyve trusted well respected members and gotten burned...
People will sell these cuts to breaders , or try an make their own breeds and sell them for big bucks.... it happens...
Im not to concerned ... cause im practically a main po crew member (wedtracker click).. and theyve lost some respect from some of the crew...
Point being tho i can get some cuts for u that po wont put on the menu..
Po may have these cuts ... cause i know the members who have the tightly held ones, and know they gave po a couple...
Its not like po can just start giving out these cuts to everyone...it would be a major headache....
As much as i love the po ... im more just getting clones from my friends/growers...
But without po i probly wouldnt have met allot growers ...so im very happy theyre hear to stay....
ps.. i dunked the larry and tahoe in a mix of neem and potassium, etc... its alittle formula i use on cuts from shops...
Didnt do it the first time... didnt know if u wanted it .... but it really helps ...in case the clones have issues when u get them...
Its a must if your goin to big dispenciaries... po will dunk it if u want... id reccomend it..

ps.s... the larry and tahoe look great! but im still not impressed...lol...jk

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Do they have any idea that their product is being featured on the most viewed journal on one of the most populated canna-growing sites on the internet?

You're saying you dipped these clones? Why didn't you mention it when you brought them over? Or anytime after that? Why mention it just now?

lordjin said:

Do they have any idea that their product is being featured on the most viewed journal on one of the most populated canna-growing sites on the internet?

You're saying you dipped these clones? Why didn't you mention it when you brought them over?

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i dont know...they have there other forum... lots of people have grown out their tahoe and just posted finished pics...
But believe me they dont need the advertisement... theyre already in over there heads.. they do allot of work...its not easy .... but are non profit in many ways....and they know there tahoes awesome already.
Theyve been open for years now... and i see people goin in getting like 30 to 80 cuts a time...

I told some people you grow there tahoe.. some friends gowers... one guy called u bendy man ...lol
but hey im sure there just happy your happy...
After all tahoe is there best strain to me and them... and really the precurser to og and posible the origional og kush perhaps.... but true og is a lil different...

I think youd be cool with any of there ogs... just about anything u grow will be dank in your cab from them...
All i was trying to say is .. i got access to the true og... and im hoping to mother it out eventually...
Soon as my boy brings one down... that might be the only one to compete with your tahoe...

Im just throwing it out there cause i could get one for ya probly .... and i can prove that its a great cut..and real true og...

Its best for you to dunk clones... i usually do it on cutlings... i didnt think it was a big deal...
But i know you dont like topping or anything... beside this was right after the problems arised...

Im also mothering out the 91 og.... i could probly make a really vigirous healthy cut for you ...
Probly will kick up the vigor for ya... since you like po stuff..

ill let u know...

ps... i was trying to find pics of your ladies... but all i see id flowmasters stuff most the time...lol
i did see some shots ...looks great....

OK - I am ready to add my novel. Are you ready?

323cheezy said:

i dont know...they have there other forum... lots of people have grown out their tahoe and just posted finished...
But believe me they dont need the advertisement... they already in over there heads.. they do allot of work...its not easy .... but are non profit in many ways....

I told some people you grow there tahoe.. some friends gowers... one guy called u bendy man ... but hey im sure there just happy your happy...
After all tahoe is there best strain to me and them... and really the precurser to og and posible the origional og kush perhaps.... but true og is a lil different...

I think youd be cool with any of there ogs... just about anything u grow will be dank in your cab from them...
All i was trying to say is .. i got access to the true og... and im hoping to mother it out eventually...
Soon as my boy brings one down... that might be the only one to compete with your tahoe...

Im just throwing it out there cause i could get one for ya probly .... and i can prove that its a great cut..and real true og...

Its best for you to dunk clones... i usually do it on cutlings... i didnt think it was a big deal...
But i know you dont like topping or anything... beside this was right after the problems arised...

Im also mothering out the 91 og.... i could probly make a really vigirous healthy cut for you ...
Probly will kick up the vigor for ya... since you like po stuff..

ill let u know...

ps... i was trying to find pics of your ladies... but all i see id flowmasters stuff most the time...lol
i did see some shots ...looks great....

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I need all the facts for my journal. It's nice of you to mention that finally. These are growing squeaky clean and I want my readers to know everything about why.

Yeah, dude. I've been clone shopping before. I know that even with good places it can be hit and miss.

I trust PO thanks in no small part to you. I think my journals can serve as helpful instructional material for PO's collective of growers if not advertisement... but I don't think they can complain about the fact that my journal has been inspiring other growers to look into their goods. Also, I think it would be cool to have an actual person from PO chime in from time to time in my thread. I want to continue growing their genetics, and I will continue to speak well of them here, in my THC Farmer journal, and in my upcoming blog (which I'm hoping will have the more views than all my journals combined).

Now how can I think of this grow (which I do constantly) without thinking of your goofy smile? The '91, the Louie, the SFV... Yeah. I'm sure it's all good, and any one would do well in my box.

I'm so happy with this grow (and still so high off my last grow) that I want to continue spreading the good word to the point where Progressive Options is representative of SoCal OG Kush.

Mohican said:

OK - I am ready to add my novel. Are you ready?

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Let's see, where are my reading glasses and slippers? Got 'em. Post away.

lordjin said:

You don't even drink alcohol... I love hearing things like that.

Yeah, man. The scientific findings continue to emerge each year that debunk the old "Cannabis is harmful" hogwash. In fact studies are now showing that cannabis is in fact an effective, safe form of MEDICAL relief for real-life medical symptoms resulting from real-life medical diseases. These very real scientific facts aren't publicized nearly enough... But how about if our Emerald Goddesses help to spread the word, huh?

Yeah, I'm just like you. I'm bipolar as fuck and can't function without my magic fuzz. I'm gonna do all I can to fight for our lifestyle, bro. That's my promise to you and all my Canna brothers and sisters.

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couldnt have said it better

Mo’s Journal in LJ’s Journal
Here is the whole story of this grow so far. It had a happy beginning with so much potential.
I popped a Holy Smokes Malawi Gold regular seed from Attitude in a prepared 1.5" cube of rockwool. For six days I paced and checked –nothing. On the seventh day (Thursday Feb 2, 2012) I had a beautiful African baby!
DAY 1

The problem was, I did not have the Lord Jin Tote (LJT) put together yet. So I whipped together a 5 gallon bucket setup to hold her temporarily.

I had a little garden fountain pump squirting water out of a tube landing in a shot glass where it overflowed over the Hydroton. The light was a bare 5500K 100W CFL hung from an old tripod.
I went to work on the LJT.
I tried using the pump I had and some tubing to make a squirting circle to wet the Hydroton.

I had two aquarium stones for air bubbles but they kept floating (you can see the right one floating on end in the picture.
I put this all together under the CFL light (with a homemade polished pie tin reflector).



The Hydroton was not getting wet enough so I watered my baby from the top to supplement the moisture until the roots could get to the water below. She was still looking happy.

I got tired of manually watering so I set up a watering system.
DAY 3

Still looking OK, but the leaves were not as dark green. I needed better sprinklers, which meant I had to get a new pump, PVC pipe, and sprinklers. No glue on the pipes and I threaded the PVC for a perfect fit with the 360 degree micro sprinkler heads.
DAY 11

I also got some good air stones and a fly strip (which is always getting stuck to something and gets gooey crap on anything it touches).
I put it all back together under two CFLs with reflectors and the Kessil H350 and let her rip. The lights and sprinklers were all controlled with timers and we were set!

I expected to see her go nuts with exploding growth. Instead she seemed to get more and more distressed. The pH was 8! I got some Mad Farmer pH down and started using it instead of vinegar. I also learned that CalMag raises your pH.
There was a thread in RIU where a guy was growing his seedlings in bubbling cups with just water until they were clone sized and then he put them in his tote. So I dug her out of the Hydroton trying not to break any roots (a couple did break that were stuck to the Hydroton) and I removed most of the rockwool and set here in a coil of wire suspended in a bubbling cup to try and revive her. I also turned off the LED.
DAY 12

This seemed like it would work better until I had some nice roots. I also needed to get a smaller net pot that would allow more water to reach the roots from below.
The next day when I went to check on her, the cup was dry! I did not realize that that air stone I had would totally blow away all of the water so quickly.
So I needed to modify the cup setup. No problem, I’ll just set the baby in the res, fill the cup, take the baby out of the res water – Oh, look, her stem snapped right off at the base of the rockwool – FUCK!!!!!
So now I am screwed. I just ripped open the rockwool and stuck the stem in between the two halves and pressed it back together. I stuck the murdered baby in a shot glass of res water and stuck her on a window sill to die.
DAY 13

Oh well. I prepared another cube of rockwool, dropped in a Holy Smokes Mulanje seed, stuck it in my new smaller net pot and waited.

The thing is, the dead baby started growing again and so I moved it to a bigger cup and added a small aquarium bubbler (just a little tube with bubble coming out). And guess what – the baby kept growing! After a week I opened the rockwool cube and the seed had not popped. So I took the dud seed out of the tote and replaced it with the resuscitated baby (Thursday March 1, 2012). I put the Mulanje seed in a paper towel and it never popped.
DAY 21

I replaced the 360 degree sprinkler heads with 90 degree versions and pointed all 8 of them at the net pot. And the baby started growing.
Her roots were taking hold.


DAY 37

DAY 38

DAY 40

DAY 41

DAY 42

DAY 44 Wilt Visits
High temps, high pH, clogged sprinkler equals unhappy baby.


DAY 45 – Wilt Left Town

DAY 46 – Wilt Snuck Back in the Night
Roots look brown – Jin says I’m OK – whew.



Today's update to come...

Mo

Added second tote top to block light and heat from the res.

Mohican said:

Today's update to come...

Mo

Added second tote top to block light and heat from the res.

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OMG, I can't stand the suspense! Can hardly wait!

Aren't you tired from reading all of that! How do you grow, photograph, work, post...?

Mohican said:

Aren't you tired from reading all of that! How do you grow, photograph, work, post...?

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Remember in T2 when Arnold stood guard overnight without moving an inch? That's how I am when it comes to pot-growing.

You wouldnt believe how much time i spend studying genetics.... no not on the net ... but with other people ...new, old growers...
And ultimatley growing them out will tell u much more...
I find your journal to be a good outlet for all my useless information to be shared... im sorry but ive been doing this for along time now....

I can tell u as a medical patient that i have tried so many , maybe hundreds of og representations....
And can differentiate flavors of og easily ...even if they all are grown out differently and taste almost all the same...

I will say that tahoe og to me is more like the old school kush i was smoking way back in 02 ..03...
Before the shops opened and before you could pay 50 to a hundred bucks for a rec...
Back then a doctor would come to your house and charge you an arm and a leg and it wasnt a garuntee youd get the rec..

Kush ruled the streets ...im not sure wen it went mainstream in la ... but it was probly here for at least 30 years...
And imo went to the dam and went up northcal in as a clone in a box in the 80's...

By the time crack and cocaine was dying out ...marijuana started coming back big time...
The hip hop culture was taking over in the 90's ..rappers were talking about it ...
It was the thing for my generation... i dont remember a time when i didnt smoke before i went to high school... we were all smoking..

At the age 15 i was getting high all the time... it went from commercail to hydro ..to kind buds... these were all just names for good weed back then..Eventually at about 17 i said fuck it and started buying brick weed pounds ...that werent bad for 1000 a lb....
We would make a killing and smoke for free...

By the time i was 18 i moved to la.... At this time 99', cronic was the big thing ... we were getting grams for 20 ...at this time that was allot for bud... and really was a movement ... the number one cash crop in the world 8th biggest economy...
Dont really know what the cronic was , but once again just a name for the high end weed going around..
Everybody wanted to smoke the best .. like the celebs and stuff... so i guess the underground growing communtiy saw that there was no money to be made on schagg commercail ...and were looking for the ulimate bud ...that could sell at ridiculous prices...

Now some claim that og and kush has been around way before ... but im talking mainstream...
I started to notice that the cronic was changing and getting different ....
And by 03 i was only asking for kush ....thats all people wanted....
At this point i fell in love with kush ... the flavor just popped ... and you would get stoned crazier....
Not only the flavor burst , but it was saopy and very clean ... just as earthy as tahoe...
I was paying 70 an eighth like nothing ..and it was some of the best weed i ever smoke ...

People at this point didnt have many options ... youd go to the dealer and theyre was 3 kinds...
Commercail , cron , and kush .... kush was the pricey one...

Now i may have been a late bloomer .. but im sure it was about 04' when i got the bombest kush ever...
One thing that i quickly noticed is the buds were a bit more neon green and almost slimey ...
The smell was just reaking of skunk...and im not talking skunk weed... im talking pungent skunk armpit...
I learned quicky that u couldnt carry this stuff around... and at work one day the whole store , where i worked , was saturated in this smell over one tiny nugg in my breast pocket...I was sent home shortly after by a friendly manager...

Now its stiill was being pushed to me as kush ...but it was my first taste of the og..id guess...
Not really kush at all ... maybe a freak kush pheno , or a great kush cross..i dont know...

But not so long after my boy started telling me i got og for 65 and the kush was still 70 or 75....
I liked his kush so much i stuck with it... but started getting og somewhere else.... and i still would get it under the name kush...
I didnt care ...much .....
I even remebered tripping one time buying some kush..... from one of my guys and thought this aint kush ...
Called him and got angry ...he mentioned it was a mix...

This all just goes to show the confusion over kush and og and how kush changed into something else....
Og is really a fake kush...
It was pushed as the origional kush .... cause everyone in socal was kush crazed at the time.. it was the name for bomb weed..
Now im sure its not the origional kush ... its something different ..and i knew people who were paying 100 dollars an eighth for some good og way back in 03 04....

This is when people started saying fuck this lets get our own og ...and make it ourselves....
The real true og cuts were being sold in sfv for 4 figure numbers not to long ago ....
Thats where u get the whole sfv og moniker from ...

The true og im sourcing out was just simply said to be sold for a large amount of money from a tattoed gansta type in sfv in 03...
Supposibly the guy that bought it died and gave it too another friend for half of 5 harvests... and as a dying wish said not to let it out...
Well eventually that guy put it on the shelve and people grew it and found out about it....
The guy who let it out claimed it was fake... but there were a couple others who had it and said fuck it ...here it is let everyone grow it out...

So for the most part we dont know exactly what og is (dont believe the online fairytales...all seed marketing)....but we do know it was around for some time...and most people just paid up the ass for a cut from some old growers...

Now you cant deny that og buds look so similar to kush buds... and almost share a menthol pine earthiness...
And theres gotta be some chem 91 in their to ...cause great sour d isnt that much different in flavor than og...
Very bitter disgusting fueliness..

Now po (z) main guy, think og has no chemdawg and is just som kush from back in the 90;s..
And said some members brought in the pure kush and it was exactly the same as there og;s now...
And thats where the 91 og comes into question as the 91 pure kush cut...
I dont agree but who knows...that 91 og i got looks dead on og in veg ...3bladers leaves only.....

So you see when you get a perfectly cured , grown , sample of tahoe.. youl feel the real taste of the origoinal kush...
kush dominant , supper earthy kick that overtakes the pallete....

And larry more being the progression of og kush to true og....
Larry is allot like what og has become ...more lemony fuel ... not to dominate earthiness...
Kinda s desil vibe , yet stilll maintains that funky kush undertone... but more on the og side..more sativa....


You can see perfect examples of these more kushless ogs nowadays.. like fire og and skywalker... 2 of the first club favorites...

Both came later.... and seems like they bred out the kushiness flavor and got some more chem dominant sativa phenos of og..


Dont let me start talking about louie it may take hours... but louie for sure is probly the most popular origionals that still reamains ....

And before it was coined was probly the origional sfv cut.....


Sorry for all this... i had to let it out.... haahhaa

They forgot to mention that it keeps your head free. How else could she be watching TV? I'm wearing one right now.

For that freezing cold student in your family! Every blanket-with-sleeves needs pockets! Duh? "One Size Fits All Adults?" No shit! It's a fucking blanket with sleeves!

Boom.

Boom again.

Check out the complex web of ties forming as they gain weight.



And don't be alarmed by this. It's only limited to a few larger leaves that are closer to the light. They're brittle, but still alive and feeding the buds.

See the broken dry portion of that leaf? Look how the trichs have asserted themselves even on this big fan leaf.

SNUGGIEEE!!!! haha! tooo goood man , also the garden is looking sexyas per usual

i have the exact same thing, more so wherever a fan is closest, it seems to be where there is more transpiration.....maybe ?? lookin sweet jin, yeah THC farmer is nice, but RIU just has such a better feel to it you know ?? just missing that damn like button. thats it!! green suits green

curly604 said:

SNUGGIEEE!!!! haha! tooo goood man , also the garden is looking sexyas per usual

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Hell yeah, dude. Snuggie. High five.

flowamasta said:

i have the exact same thing, more so wherever a fan is closest, it seems to be where there is more transpiration.....maybe ?? lookin sweet jin, yeah THC farmer is nice, but RIU just has such a better feel to it you know ?? just missing that damn like button. thats it!! green suits green

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Hey, our leaves may take a beating, but our buds speak for themselves, yeah?

You read my mind. I was just thinking how cute THC Farmer is, but when you're an RIU junkie, you're one for life.

Where's the like button, Mellokitty?

323cheezy said:

Sorry for all this... i had to let it out.... haahhaa

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It's okay. Better not to keep it all bottled up. That's what my journal is for. It's a place of sharing and caring.

Your posts soooooo make me want to have smellivision! I know it smells good but can you give me one of those gourmet descriptions with all the notes of this and that?

Hey Cheesy - I pictured you as an old guy like me. I started smoking the gold in 74 when the good stuff was Hawaiian, Thai sticks, hash or on a rare day, honey oil. I too remember when the giant artichoke buds started showing up in the early 80s. And then the whole Humboldt thing took it to another level. I remember getting some giant black coconut looking seeds the came out of the ground with 5 blades! Those were some genetics I wish I could find today. I need to ask that person if they still know where to get them. He would still know today.

Where is the like button!!!!!

look up the ismell on wikipedia ..... to funny , i think if they went through with it we would have had tiny teleporters by now

Mohican said:

Your posts soooooo make me want to have smellivision! I know it smells good but can you give me one of those gourmet descriptions with all the notes of this and that?

Hey Cheesy - I pictured you as an old guy like me. I started smoking the gold in 74 when the good stuff was Hawaiian, Thai sticks, hash or on a rare day, honey oil. I too remember when the giant artichoke buds started showing up in the early 80s. And then the whole Humboldt thing took it to another level. I remember getting some giant black coconut looking seeds the came out of the ground with 5 blades! Those were some genetics I wish I could find today. I need to ask that person if they still know where to get them. He would still know today.

Where is the like button!!!!!

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hey thanx ... all i have is my memories.... but really im still a young dude...
As i see alot of these new kids on the block saying this and that ... with all thier google copmuter knowledge i laugh sometimes...
We lived it ... and the only way you can really know is if u were there... when it happened...
And i thank u for reading.....


and thanx jin for letting me share my experience...

Some user over at that other website posted his very own nude chick photo in my journal! They have started paying tribute to Lordjin already... good, good. Lol.