Last 10 days of flower. Not enough GH bloom left.

quigs

Member
Hi, I'm in the last ten days of flower, and I do not have enough GH bloom left. It is calling for 180 mls total, and I have about 40 mls. Cant wait another night to feed as they are very dry. Was wondering since GH bloom is 0 5 4 and liquid cool bloom is 0 10 10....could I supplement my GH bloom with half strength liquid cool bloom? Since 0 5 4 is roughly half of 0 10 10? this is their last feeding before florakleen flush the last 5 days out. So, if in need 180 mls of GH bloom, and have only 40, I'm lacking 140 mls. So, could I use 70 mls liquid cool bloom 0 10 10..... since its roughly twice the strength of the bloom? Please advise and thanks!
 

Tym

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Last 10 days? Just give them a flush.. No nutes for the last 10 days. Most people flush anyways.
 

jondamon

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doesnt anyone test ppm/EC/CF/TDS etc?


if you were testing your current nutes you could have just got it to the same level you normally use.


personally i'd just add your 40ml's and start your ending process.


J
 

quigs

Member
Ya, I have 10 days out so want to feed them right up until last week. this is soilless #4, hand watering. They are taking water every 5 days. So my thought was, give last feed now, and 5 days later the flush, then 5 days later cutem down. Question is Im outa bloom, can i supplement that with half the required dosage with liquid cool bloom? bloom is 0 5 4 and the liquid cool bloom is 0 10 10. I need another 140 mls of bloom, could I use 70 mls of liquid cool bloom instead
 

quigs

Member
doesnt anyone test ppm/EC/CF/TDS etc?


if you were testing your current nutes you could have just got it to the same level you normally use.


personally i'd just add your 40ml's and start your ending process.


J
of course I am testing ppm tds, etc..how does that adress the lack of GH bloom right now, and whad to i 'get them back to the same levels with?
 

DryGrain

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Just use what you've got now, then start your flush. I stop feeding 14 days before harvest, personally.
 

palerider

Active Member
With 10 days left I wouldn't stress just use what you have left and start flushing, I think that you won't notice any difference in yield/quality at this point and your plants will be really well flushed. If your really worried just give them a little backstrap mollasses, it will help the flavor and the carbs will help the buds swell up nice.
 

quigs

Member
ya i hear that most stop 14 days out. this is soiless #4, and they did not get enough grow in the beginning, as someone told me the soiless mix has enough nutes for a month. so, i never had much build up to begin with. always hand wayer and have 30% run-off. flushed once already between feedings with flora-kleen. so im thinking i can just skip the last week of feeding instead of two weeks.
 

BCBuddy420

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doesnt anyone test ppm/EC/CF/TDS etc?


if you were testing your current nutes you could have just got it to the same level you normally use.


personally i'd just add your 40ml's and start your ending process.


J
ahhh Jondamon! my old friend... how you doing man?? I'm just onto my second grow finally, soon to flower. You may remember me by my OG Kush 4000watt grow. Thanks again for all that help that was a hefty crop i pulled, yayyyer! :bigjoint: whatcha got on the go?

~ BCbuddy :leaf:
 

jondamon

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With 10 days left I wouldn't stress just use what you have left and start flushing, I think that you won't notice any difference in yield/quality at this point and your plants will be really well flushed. If your really worried just give them a little backstrap mollasses, it will help the flavor and the carbs will help the buds swell up nice.
actually molasses does nothing to make buds swell. it does however help to feed the beneficials within the rhizosphere. If you want the full in's and out's of carbs and amino acids here is a link.

https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/370486-geek-squad-alert-carbohydrates-amino.html


It all has to do with the casparian strip which is part of the roots and how without microencapsulation alot of the CARBO LOAD products cant get into the plants by being root fed and microencapsulation isnt even working yet. Alot of nute companies test their products by Laboratory injections.


i urge all to read it , it might make you think twice about buying such CARBO LOADING products .



J
 

BCBuddy420

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With 10 days left I wouldn't stress just use what you have left and start flushing, I think that you won't notice any difference in yield/quality at this point and your plants will be really well flushed. If your really worried just give them a little backstrap mollasses, it will help the flavor and the carbs will help the buds swell up nice.
^^^^ good advice, the molassess is sweeeeet. Really helps and will provide a lil extra trace elements within the final bit ontop of the carbs. It's a well proven method, one I will ALWAYS do personally
 

jondamon

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^^^^ good advice, the molassess is sweeeeet. Really helps and will provide a lil extra trace elements within the final bit ontop of the carbs. It's a well proven method, one I will ALWAYS do personally
Read that geek squad article bro. it might open your eyes. if you use molasses just at the end it will just help to keep your rhizosphere functioning with all the symbiosis. You can use molasses all the way through to help power feed your rhizosphere .



J
 

palerider

Active Member
I've used molasses for years and it does work, there is tons of literature to support this on top of that. In fact jorge Cervantes states that " buds swell about 20% when sugar is added to irrigation water during the last four weeks of flowering" in reference to molasses.
 

jondamon

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I've used molasses for years and it does work, there is tons of literature to support this on top of that. In fact jorge Cervantes states that " buds swell about 20% when sugar is added to irrigation water during the last four weeks of flowering" in reference to molasses.
read the geek squad article. It isnt the molasses feeding the plant, yes the trace elements help the plant but its the microbial life living in the rhizosphere that feed the plant by turning the exudets and decaying matter into food for the plants.


J
 

DryGrain

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Quigs, quick bit of advice: next time you ask a question and don't get the answer that you want to hear, don't come into the chat demanding that we grow your pot for you. It's not grow support, your question got answered here in this thread already by multiple people, and your sense of entitlement is getting old. Nobody is getting paid to help you, and spamming the chat is not the way to go about airing your greivances.
 

palerider

Active Member
I read that article jondamon, it is definitely food for thought. But the plants must be taking something up from the molasses because you can faintly taste it in the buds, but I guess its one of those things where I don't care how it works just as long as it works lol, anyways interesting article.
 

quigs

Member
you all answered a bunch of questions i did not ask. i only wanted to know the difference between GH flora bloom (from the 3 part) and liquid cool bloom. wanted to know since one is 0 5 4 and te other is 0 10 10...why couldd somebosy not use it at half strength in a pinch. didnt ask anybody to grow my plants for me. my post was over0riiden with a bunch of talk of the benefits of molasses. finally, an hour into the chat, somebody finally says that the flora bloom is nnot simply half strenght liquid cool bloom. whatever man. bunch of freaking hypocrites and losers.
 

quigs

Member
Quigs, quick bit of advice: next time you ask a question and don't get the answer that you want to hear, don't come into the chat demanding that we grow your pot for you. It's not grow support, your question got answered here in this thread already by multiple people, and your sense of entitlement is getting old. Nobody is getting paid to help you, and spamming the chat is not the way to go about airing your greivances.
nobody answered the damn question. an hour later someone fianlly said ' one is not just a half strenght version of the other'...which is all i wanted to know. entitlement? because i go to a help forum for help?
 
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