Late-bloom period - PPM vs Suggested Dosages

Rambo8577

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NIce!

Not saying what you do doesn't work in the end result. I'll admit it. I played with MOAB for awhile. I left it behind and moved to a lower P and K of around 0-6-19 and did better then with the MOAB.......Just goes to show that dial in is everything!

Just some plant info.....In your case with Coco, you are getting things done the last week - sorry, I missed the coco part!

Again, nice op and good looking results..
thanks man, you as well , hard to get it to purple up like that gotta do it just right
 

Rambo8577

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NIce!

Not saying what you do doesn't work in the end result. I'll admit it. I played with MOAB for awhile. I left it behind and moved to a lower P and K of around 0-6-19 and did better then with the MOAB.......Just goes to show that dial in is everything!

Just some plant info.....In your case with Coco, you are getting things done the last week - sorry, I missed the coco part!

Again, nice op and good looking results..
just playing with moab as well cut it down by 3/4 , trying to figure out the ration of ppm of p and k by gram weight, any idea how to do that math trying keep p at 60-70ppm or lower, k around 60-80...
 

Rambo8577

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Agreed. Just go the old fashion way and see how they take it,. Ill keep an update going if its working or not
 

Ingvar

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Thanks guys, appreciate all the input, even when it's all different in opinion :)

So is the consensus that K is more important in last 2-3 weeks universal then? Because most supplement charts seem to emphasize P (given the ratios they make these nutrients). What's a good K booster I can get?
 

Dr. Who

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Thanks guys, appreciate all the input, even when it's all different in opinion :)

So is the consensus that K is more important in last 2-3 weeks universal then? Because most supplement charts seem to emphasize P (given the ratios they make these nutrients). What's a good K booster I can get?
synthetic - give Atami blossom builder a shot. Terpinator is higher K - Look in the "Do It Yourself" section and learn how to make your own for less then $5 a gallon......If label shopping for bottled ingr. high in K... skip K Nitrate - your adding N, and you want to avoid that in late bloom

Way too much attention is given to P, by nutrient makers....Too early too!
 

Dr. Who

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just playing with moab as well cut it down by 3/4 , trying to figure out the ration of ppm of p and k by gram weight, any idea how to do that math trying keep p at 60-70ppm or lower, k around 60-80...
N=0% P=52% K=32% You can't get a ppm of P AND K around the same thing. The binders and carriers of the nutrient are adding ppm too. You would need single nutrients to get to the ppm values your wanting.
 

jarvild

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Very wise jarvildson, starting with hyrdoplex last round worked great, everyones on a mammoth kick but not sure its worth the money,just changed my r/o filter , they say 7500 gallon life span , i figured about 5 maybe, waters running twice as fast now. You do any teas?
No teas used here. All my indoors is straight synthetics.
If you want straight K I would check on some Potash for supplementation.
Also use of mag late in flower with high K levels is detrimental as K is often absorbed first before Mag. This is common knowledge in the AG world.
 

Dr. Who

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No teas used here. All my indoors is straight synthetics.
If you want straight K I would check on some Potash for supplementation.
Also use of mag late in flower with high K levels is detrimental as K is often absorbed first before Mag. This is common knowledge in the AG world.
I like a mix of K and Mg sulfate. The added S is helpful too.
 

Flowki

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I think it's a really good idea to try and grow with an experimental pot that you water fully but with no run off. That is if your setup/medium will allow such a practice.

It does not work if the neuts used are crap, too strong or wrong ratios. A hydro neut line with only the required elements you can have more control over N, sulfur etc as DR.who was saying. Around 800ppm while slightly playing with ratio (if you reduce N a little, increase pk by same ppm amount etc) seems ok but no doubt will vary. If the plant was healthy with 800 ppm then implement it next time and feed all 900ppm with run off as a safety net.

Probably not worth the hassle if you are always changing strains. I suppose you will still learn a lot instead of relying entirely on run off, so maybe worth it regardless.
 

Rambo8577

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Run coco, with runoff, been trying to keep them down but they have a mind of there of own, its glue so they can take it...
 
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