Leaves curling down??

RedEyeJedi UK

RedEyeJedi UK

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rossbonlay said:
kul man,ya no yerself!ive had 3 crops and everytime i get to this stage(last couple o weeks)sumtin always goes wrong!!went away last time for a weekend,they got scorched to bits!!the time before that,went away,came back the resivoir on my hydro set up went dry!!!wat do ya rekon about using that bud boost(for soiless)on compost perlite??
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Bud boost, super thrive or PK13/14 are all pretty good and work in both hydro and soil set ups...

Sorry to hear about your run of bad luck, no wonder your worrying... LOL

As For Homer Hudson's advice, IMO I wouldn't follow it... I can't see any Potassium defs in there, and I'v never heard of frost with indoor growing?! LOL
:peace::twisted:
 
rossbonlay

rossbonlay

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RedEyeJedi UK said:
Bud boost, super thrive or PK13/14 are all pretty good and work in both hydro and soil set ups...

Sorry to hear about your run of bad luck, no wonder your worrying... LOL

As For Homer Hudson's advice, IMO I wouldn't follow it... I can't see any Potassium defs in there, and I'v never heard of frost with indoor growing?! LOL
:peace::twisted:
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Im using pk-13-14 with bud boost,could this be the problem??is pk the same as bud boost??
 
RedEyeJedi UK

RedEyeJedi UK

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I think they are a different formula but they essentially do the same thing - Bulk up the bud...

you are wasting your money - although the plant is probably loving it... How many times have you used them so far ? You only need to feed it PK13/14 twice per plant per grow - usually 3 or 4 weeks from finish - which is where you are now - so it depends on how many times you've fed it already?
 
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GroHi

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ross, I've had the same issue on a couple of runs, including this one with some PWreck, though the GDP right next to them aren't doing this. I have a GDP w a group of Nebs where the Nebs are fine but the GDP did it early on. I'm working to narrow down the issue as I run varying nute & finish schedules... Overall, I seem to notice this the most with newer growth where the older fans stay stretched out. Also, it seems to happen around the end of week 1 flower to end week 2. Again, trying to narrow it down. I'm thinking it has to due with the changing nute demands of the varying plants @ transition to bloom, where the best info I can glean is that this might have to due w the N... short of it being too much N at this stage. This is where I'm at now & will have to tinker again on the next run. All seems to correct itself (no more clawing) at the end of week 3 to beg week 4 where this leaf curl stops... doesn't really correct itself very well on those already clawed. Some posts use the term "ram horning" for this phenomena. Peace brother.
 
cowboylogic

cowboylogic

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RedEyeJedi UK said:
Bud boost, super thrive or PK13/14 are all pretty good and work in both hydro and soil set ups...

Sorry to hear about your run of bad luck, no wonder your worrying... LOL

As For Homer Hudson's advice, IMO I wouldn't follow it... I can't see any Potassium defs in there, and I'v never heard of frost with indoor growing?! LOL
:peace::twisted:
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If you use Superthrive or any other type of B-1 during flowering all you are doing is prolonging the process. Use Superthrive anytimeduring 12/12 and you are just adding 3 or 4 weeks to flowering. Only use these types of products during early veg and at transplants.
 
cowboylogic

cowboylogic

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rossbonlay said:
kul man,ya no yerself!ive had 3 crops and everytime i get to this stage(last couple o weeks)sumtin always goes wrong!!went away last time for a weekend,they got scorched to bits!!the time before that,went away,came back the resivoir on my hydro set up went dry!!!wat do ya rekon about using that bud boost(for soiless)on compost perlite??
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Thats because you fucking Brits are not suppose to grow weed. It pisses the Queen off. Crusty old hag anyways. kiss-assJust Kidding.
 
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Homer Hudson

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rossbonlay said:
So you can buy just Potassium fert,with no other chemicals??do you study biology or somthing??
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There should quite easily be just potassium fertilizer, something like 'Super Potassium' or what ever your local sells.
No didn't study Biology, more into the side of ethnobotanical research.
 
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Homer Hudson

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RedEyeJedi UK said:
Bud boost, super thrive or PK13/14 are all pretty good and work in both hydro and soil set ups...

Sorry to hear about your run of bad luck, no wonder your worrying... LOL

As For Homer Hudson's advice, IMO I wouldn't follow it... I can't see any Potassium defs in there, and I'v never heard of frost with indoor growing?! LOL
:peace::twisted:
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Sorry RedEye,

I was just advising that the wilting is due to insufficient watering, the use of potassium is to retain the water in the roots for a period of time, the frost issue was just an added benefit under normal outdoor conditions

Thanks
 
Phelps

Phelps

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Potassium Nitrate (Salt Peter) is NOT!!! recomended for flowering cuz its loaded with Nitrogen (hence the word Nitrate) and dont foilar feed in flower unless ur plants are at risk of dying, especially in cold weather. That would be a good way to encourage bud rot.
As the weather gets cooler, the oxygen level gets lower in the water and it evaporates more slowly leaving u with even less oxygen in the root zone, and Homer is over there telling u to water more, and add more K and Nitrogen to the mix. All of those things are exactly what u dont need to do at this time because PK and Bud Boost both have tons of Potassium so I guarantee u dont need any more K in that mix... Fucking Homer just throws a ton of bull shit out there.

Seriously tho, the only time I have ever seen this is when I over fert, no matter what the temps were. U should use PK 13-14 or Bud Boost, but not both. They are both P and K boosters and before u know it the Potassium will start to lock out cal and mg.
I would run them side by side on cuts from the same plant to determine what works better in your environment and then stick with that.

No offense but IDK about u Homer. I have seen u give skeptical advice more than once.
 
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Homer Hudson

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Phelps said:
Potassium Nitrate (Salt Peter) is NOT!!! recomended for flowering cuz its loaded with Nitrogen (hence the word Nitrate) and dont foilar feed in flower unless ur plants are at risk of dying, especially in cold weather. That would be a good way to encourage bud rot.
As the weather gets cooler, the oxygen level gets lower in the water and it evaporates more slowly leaving u with even less oxygen in the root zone, and Homer is over there telling u to water more, and add more K and Nitrogen to the mix. All of those things are exactly what u dont need to do at this time because PK and Bud Boost both have tons of Potassium so I guarantee u dont need any more K in that mix... Fucking Homer just throws a ton of bull shit out there.

Seriously tho, the only time I have ever seen this is when I over fert, no matter what the temps were. U should use PK 13-14 or Bud Boost, but not both. They are both P and K boosters and before u know it the Potassium will start to lock out cal and mg.
I would run them side by side on cuts from the same plant to determine what works better in your environment and then stick with that.

No offense but IDK about u Homer. I have seen u give skeptical advice more than once.
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Say what you please, I just wanted him to water his plants more. As for the Potassium, I never said Potassium Nitrate, just merely referring to Wood Ashes and nothing about foliar feeding. Peace
 
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Homer Hudson

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Phelps said:
Potassium Nitrate (Salt Peter) is NOT!!! recomended for flowering cuz its loaded with Nitrogen (hence the word Nitrate) and dont foilar feed in flower unless ur plants are at risk of dying, especially in cold weather. That would be a good way to encourage bud rot.
As the weather gets cooler, the oxygen level gets lower in the water and it evaporates more slowly leaving u with even less oxygen in the root zone, and Homer is over there telling u to water more, and add more K and Nitrogen to the mix. All of those things are exactly what u dont need to do at this time because PK and Bud Boost both have tons of Potassium so I guarantee u dont need any more K in that mix... Fucking Homer just throws a ton of bull shit out there.

Seriously tho, the only time I have ever seen this is when I over fert, no matter what the temps were. U should use PK 13-14 or Bud Boost, but not both. They are both P and K boosters and before u know it the Potassium will start to lock out cal and mg.
I would run them side by side on cuts from the same plant to determine what works better in your environment and then stick with that.

No offense but IDK about u Homer. I have seen u give skeptical advice more than once.
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I see it is in regards to this "Once you see an improvement suggest foliar feeding as well can be useful especially in cold weather when root activity is slowed down. Potassium nitrate should be fine as a water soluble fertilizer." But this was only after the plant had regained its momentum a few weeks down the track.

Nevertheless apologies by adding it into the current situation

Thanks
 
brasmith

brasmith

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Too much N makes the claw happen and also turns the leaves a dark bluish color. Slows down flowering as well. No superthrive during flowering. and yse when you suppliment with a pk nutrient you are adding pk to boost or help flowering along.
 
rossbonlay

rossbonlay

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Personaly i think it was to much pk-1314,i was using that and bud boost,so theres the answer,their in flower so i havnt been using N,so its the pk,or in a case of veg stage,its probly to much N,so overdosed,as swimple as....i hope!!
 
Phelps

Phelps

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Homer, Im sorry for coming across as such an ass. Your input is appreciated and Im sure ur methods are great, they just dont suite this situation.
Foilar feeding in flower is a bad idea, and so is giving high amounts of N that match K.
 
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