Leaves drooping?

Plants look good to me. I don't see anything to be concered about.
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root bound and plant will usually halt new growth and progress, can stretch between nodes not nice, and may start yellowing.. If plant is still growing healthy progress is happening then I wouldn't worry.

Your leaves look too huge and nice green to be rootbound.

I went to the miracle grow site and checked out your fert

the best choice of them is the one for tomatoes 18-18-21

id use that one for both veg and bloom over the others

take a look at your label on your fertilizer

look at the % amounts for magnesium and calcium

theres barely any magnesium 0.5% (comparatively to the huge NPK % #s)
and zero calcium

then look over at the derived from ingredient list ;
notice how theres no ingredient containing calcium listed
for example calcium nitrate ..zero

and your using a fertilizer that's low on K

as the soil becomes more and more depleted on calcium and magnesium and potassium your going to see more issues

the fertilizer has no calcium and little to no magnesium

I recommend you change the fertilizer to this one
https://www.miraclegro.com/smg/products/CFLS/MG-WaterSolubleTomatoPlantFood-2015-CFL.pdf

and find a calcium source and magnesium source

Epsom salt for magnesium would be the best choice

gypsum for calcium would be an option or possibly dolomite depending o what your current ph is

and my personal preference, id like to see her in a larger pot

polishpollack said:

My opinion on miracle grow products is they are way too hot. You probably bought those two ferts because they are cheap but if you use too much, they will kill your plants.

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I use a 1/3 of the dosage on the box

polishpollack said:

My opinion on miracle grow products is they are way too hot. You probably bought those two ferts because they are cheap but if you use too much, they will kill your plants.

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No had nothing to do with money. I tried to get as close to 20-20-20 as I could. Actually just looked at the container today as I was working when I posted last night. The food I'm using at 1/3 strength is 25-8-20. This stuff.

Just some blah blah as mini-followup to above

Calcium is used in every cell as part of the cell walls.
Magnesium is at the center of all photosynthesis reactions. a catalyst of sorts.

2 very important elements for ultimate yields and health and plant vigor.

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the best choice of them is the one for tomatoes 18-18-21

id use that one for both veg and bloom over the others

take a look at your label on your fertilizer

look at the % amounts for magnesium and calcium

theres barely any magnesium 0.5% (comparatively to the huge NPK % #s)
and zero calcium

then look over at the derived from ingredient list ;
notice how theres no ingredient containing calcium listed
for example calcium nitrate ..zero

and your using a fertilizer that's low on K

as the soil becomes more and more depleted on calcium and magnesium and potassium your going to see more issues

the fertilizer has no calcium and little to no magnesium

I recommend you change the fertilizer

and find a calcium source and magnesium source

Epsom salt for magnesium would be the best choice

gypsum for calcium would be an option or possibly dolomite depending o what your current ph is

and my personal preference, id like to see her in a larger pot[/QUOTE]
I got new containers and bought sheep manure, and supersoil today. I'll buy the stuff you mentioned. Transplanting tomorrow. Got an 18 gallon container and a 10 gallon.....they had no more 18s lol. That should be large enough I'd think. I'll post pics tomorrow evening.

Did

Johnei said:

Just some blah blah as mini-followup to above

Calcium is used in every cell as part of the cell walls.
Magnesium is at the center of all photosynthesis reactions. a catalyst of sorts.

2 very important elements for ultimate yields and health and plant vigor.

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Did not know that, thank you

im4satori said:

is that also water soluble? its not time release is it?

15-52-15

that's almost all P...

you don't have another fertilizer available to you?

something where the last number is the largest number of the 3

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It's actually 15-30-15. I don't mind spending a few bucks on the best flowering food if you guys care to tell me what's the best

Danthegrowinman77 said:

It's actually 15-30-15. I don't mind spending a few bucks on the best flowering food if you guys care to tell me what's the best

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either way still the same

hey Satori,, side note here, his food is for Tomatoes, and yet there's no Calcium in it. Has Miracle Grow shmoes never heard of blossom end rot in tomatoes!? I absolutely don't get it!! Unless this is ploy to upsell another calcium rich product of theirs etc.
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garbage

Johnei said:

hey Satori,, side note here, his food is for Tomatoes, and yet there's no Calcium in it. Has Miracle Grow shmoes never heard of blossom end rot in tomatoes!? I absolutely don't get it!! Unless this is ploy to upsell another calcium rich product of theirs etc.
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garbage

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exactly what I thought

tomaotes are calcium hogs

most fert geared toward tomatoes has huge levels of calcium 10+%

Johnei said:

Plants look good to me. I don't see anything to be concered about.
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root bound and plant will usually halt new growth and progress, can stretch between nodes not nice, and may start yellowing.. If plant is still growing healthy progress is happening then I wouldn't worry.

Your leaves look too huge and nice green to be rootbound.

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They were totally root bound. Replanted 2 today in 18 gallon buckets

It's getting hot these days and container plants need a lot of water. Next time don't wait quite so long to transplant. What soil did you use?

polishpollack said:

It's getting hot these days and container plants need a lot of water. Next time don't wait quite so long to transplant. What soil did you use?

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Yeah I know I waited quite long..... haven't grown in 13 years and my plants never amounted to a large size so wasn't expecting this.
Supersoil (75 litres), organic potting soil(40 litres), black earth(25 litres) and peat moss(2 cubic feet) mixed well, and 5 cups of sheep manure mixed in well.

If the soil has fert you might not need much extra fert. You might want to avoid ferts for a while and see how they look in doing so. If they look okay, then you're good. You can add those ferts easy enough later on if they dissolve easily in water. I say as you say you're using supersoil. if this is good enough, then you'll be okay.

polishpollack said:

If the soil has fert you might not need much extra fert. You might want to avoid ferts for a while and see how they look in doing so. If they look okay, then you're good. You can add those ferts easy enough later on if they dissolve easily in water. I say as you say you're using supersoil. if this is good enough, then you'll be okay.

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Just gonna give em water til they start flowering but the soil doesn't contain any ferts. Just the sheep shit I added. I noticed the leaves picked up in one day. I'll be posting pics tomorrow night......gotta get out to water tomorrow evening. It's been very hot and sunny here the last 2 days and supposed to be the same tomorrow

Danthegrowinman77 said:

Just gonna give em water til they start flowering but the soil doesn't contain any ferts

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Yes it does.. you just said you were using super soil? And then you said you were using organic potting mix... both of those contain organic nutrients... NPK.. all of it...

_secret said:

Yes it does.. you just said you were using super soil? And then you said you were using organic potting mix... both of those contain organic nutrients... NPK.. all of it...

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Oh okay.....did not know that. Good thing you guys know your stuff. Thanks ,.......but should I give bloom if the soils contain npk? Or will that be too much for them?