Leaves Dying Off Into Buds - Mold ?

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SpaaaceCowboy

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hey guys seeing what you think here....

I stopped feeding the plant a couple week ago or so....I did this because I was led to believe you don't want to feed you plant at the end...So it has been slowly dying...

Anyways, I am worried some of these dying/brown leaves may cause mold....I pulled one out of a bud today that was basically dead and withered in the bud BUT it was moist !

I am worried this could start causing mold...I already chopped the main cola, and lost almost half of it to bud rot....

Strain is supposed to be 9 to 11 weeks...It's been 81 days now....Unfortunately I still see no amber trichs...I'd say at least 90% are cloudy maybe 95%.....

Sucks I put all this work in...I want good pot, but obviously I don't want mold either....

thoughts ?

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smoke and coke

smoke and coke

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once the leaves recede into the bud they can cause a mold or bud rot issue if you have high humidity levels.

usually once they die back inside far enough, you can just pluck them out. also means you may be chopping soon too.
 
Psychild

Psychild

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Please lord, give her some Magnesium!!! She needs more N, but Magnesium will be enough to shake her back, but not too much where it kills the taste!
 
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SpaaaceCowboy

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Psychild said:
Please lord, give her some Magnesium!!! She needs more N, but Magnesium will be enough to shake her back, but not too much where it kills the taste!
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I think it's too late bro...It's going on 12 weeks, and I have two new plants that have been vegging for 4 weeks, and have just about out grown the vegg chamber....

.Believe me I'm not too happy about it...From now on my plants stay green. I turned on the dehumidifier as I was getting near 60%...I got it set at 40% now....Hopefully that helps here in the last day or so....

I think I am going to put her in darkness for 24 hours, tomorrow then chop her down.
 
Growan

Growan

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Personally, I wouldn't risk the 24 hours darkness. Here are my reasons.

there is no DEFINATIVE evidence it benefits the harvest

it will lower temperature without the light on, and therefore increase rh

if you mean complete darkness for 24 hours, I guess that means leaving it sealed up and unchecked for 24hours. If you're worried about rot that's a risky move.

botritis moves fast.

if you really dont want to harvest now, turn every fan you have up to max, circulators and extraction. Keep rh as low as possible.

Personally, I'd chop and get the next generation in there after a THOROUGH CLEAN of the grow area. Mold, spores....you get me?

also you need to be sure your drying process is suited now. Quicker than perhaps you planned to do it.

I've seen half a crop of ak47 turn to grey mush in half a day due to power loss and hence no ventilation and high rh. I've lost literally oz's off outdoor grows in a wet September. Wet brown and grey buds are not what you want.

Those are nice, dense looking buds. Don't lose them now.

good luck
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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Harvest now and do the cure carefully and you'll not have taste problems.

The question burning in my mind is why the yellowing started in the first place?
What nutrition did you use?
High P bloom food or a High P bloom "booster" used?

As for plain water washing......You don't "need" to.....some do none. A proper dry & cure avoids problems.
Don't "flush" with water and then only water for "weeks"......I simply use straight water for the last week, no run through....Proper cure and wonderful bud is the result.
 
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SpaaaceCowboy

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Growan said:
Personally, I wouldn't risk the 24 hours darkness. Here are my reasons.

there is no DEFINATIVE evidence it benefits the harvest

it will lower temperature without the light on, and therefore increase rh

if you mean complete darkness for 24 hours, I guess that means leaving it sealed up and unchecked for 24hours. If you're worried about rot that's a risky move.

botritis moves fast.

if you really dont want to harvest now, turn every fan you have up to max, circulators and extraction. Keep rh as low as possible.

Personally, I'd chop and get the next generation in there after a THOROUGH CLEAN of the grow area. Mold, spores....you get me?

also you need to be sure your drying process is suited now. Quicker than perhaps you planned to do it.

I've seen half a crop of ak47 turn to grey mush in half a day due to power loss and hence no ventilation and high rh. I've lost literally oz's off outdoor grows in a wet September. Wet brown and grey buds are not what you want.

Those are nice, dense looking buds. Don't lose them now.

good luck
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Thanks for your response....Even though I don't have any amber trichs, and about 95% are cloudy, do you think the weed will still have some potency ?

I cut the cola like 4 or 5 days, and smoked some popcorn off it...It was rather weak....I literally have to take like 8 or 10 hits, and even then the high is kinda weak and does not last long....

I'm assuming popcorn = less THC, and I have also heard that potency can increase during curing ?
 
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SpaaaceCowboy

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Dr. Who said:
Harvest now and do the cure carefully and you'll not have taste problems.

The question burning in my mind is why the yellowing started in the first place?
What nutrition did you use?
High P bloom food or a High P bloom "booster" used?

As for plain water washing......You don't "need" to.....some do none. A proper dry & cure avoids problems.
Don't "flush" with water and then only water for "weeks"......I simply use straight water for the last week, no run through....Proper cure and wonderful bud is the result.
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The plant was looking green and beautiful...I had it dialed in...I read somewhere that you want to stop feeding the plant at the end...This is why the plant looks like this...I could have kept her nice and green still....So for the last 2 weeks or so it's just been water.
 
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SpaaaceCowboy

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The closet I am drying that top cola in right now is 77 f and 59% RH....I don't see mold on the buds but they are taking their time to dry...They are drying though....

You guys think these might be too high ? Or, am I ok if I keep an eye on things ?

The other thing I can do is to turn on our central air.....We don't have it on because it's just not that hot yet...But I supposed I could turn it on which should help bring down both the temp and RH.
 
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Uranium36

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SpaaaceCowboy said:
Thanks for your response....Even though I don't have any amber trichs, and about 95% are cloudy, do you think the weed will still have some potency ?

I cut the cola like 4 or 5 days, and smoked some popcorn off it...It was rather weak....I literally have to take like 8 or 10 hits, and even then the high is kinda weak and does not last long....

I'm assuming popcorn = less THC, and I have also heard that potency can increase during curing ?
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Hey man, well, ive had some problem with previous plants as well and just like you, I had to chop them early. I still had clear trichs!!

So about potency, well... If you are medicating well sorry to announce it to you bud, but you wont have much of a body high. Youre gonna be stuck with a nice little head high that dosent couch lock you at all, its not gonna last really long either, about one hour max. So if youre just gonna get stoned, the weed should do the job just fine, but if you have multiple sclerosis or something like that, it wont really relief the pain like it should.. The best of luck to you : )

Btw, I think you stopped nutes early right? Well maybe you wont get the potency you want , but during curing you could get the best taste and smell out of it and that is almost just as nice : )
 
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SpaaaceCowboy

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EDIT: Well I said screw it, and turned on the central air...So that should take care of any temp and RH issues...

Uranium....Ya I stopped nuting her like 2 weeks ago or so.
 
smoke and coke

smoke and coke

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i usually trim off the leaves and chop. hang to dry with no ventilation for a day or 2. a couple of times a day i will turn on the ventilation to exchange some air. then i use the dehumidifier that i will run about 18-20 hours a day. i shut it off during the hottest part of the day. i usually have high humidity so if it is drying too fast then it will moisten back up a little when the dehumidifier is off.

i start at 70% humidity and then i lower it 5% every day. by day 7 i am at 50% humidity setting and usually clipping the buds off the stalks into paper bags or jars. in jars for only a few hours and into bags. back and forth less frequently in the bags each time.

this is what works best for me for my drying environment. that central air will help cool which is great but it will also lower the humidity and it may dry too fast.
 
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Puffter

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SpaaaceCowboy said:
The plant was looking green and beautiful...I had it dialed in...I read somewhere that you want to stop feeding the plant at the end...This is why the plant looks like this...I could have kept her nice and green still....So for the last 2 weeks or so it's just been water.
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Dr. Who said:
Harvest now and do the cure carefully and you'll not have taste problems.

The question burning in my mind is why the yellowing started in the first place?
What nutrition did you use?
High P bloom food or a High P bloom "booster" used?

As for plain water washing......You don't "need" to.....some do none. A proper dry & cure avoids problems.
Don't "flush" with water and then only water for "weeks"......I simply use straight water for the last week, no run through....Proper cure and wonderful bud is the result.
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Puffter

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Hi. And help! This is my. 1st grow, and I've harvested my first plant, it's kinda tiny and I only got 19 grams, but the buds look weedy and smell foisty tastes unpleasant and does not get you stoned, enough would get you slightly stoned but in a odd kinda way. I used only water coming up a week before the dark period of 48hrs, cut down then hung upside down in a cardboard box with the lid off (hanging on string like washing lines
I essentially and at the end of the day don't give a shit what it tastes like as long as it does the trick, but this doesnt. ALSO the buds were sticky and you could see the crystals, like sugar. So what's the problem, ANYONE??? Many thanks guys.

SpaaaceCowboy said:
The plant was looking green and beautiful...I had it dialed in...I read somewhere that you want to stop feeding the plant at the end...This is why the plant looks like this...I could have kept her nice and green still....So for the last 2 weeks or so it's just been water.
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Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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Puffter said:
Hi. And help! This is my. 1st grow, and I've harvested my first plant, it's kinda tiny and I only got 19 grams, but the buds look weedy and smell foisty tastes unpleasant and does not get you stoned, enough would get you slightly stoned but in a odd kinda way. I used only water coming up a week before the dark period of 48hrs, cut down then hung upside down in a cardboard box with the lid off (hanging on string like washing lines
I essentially and at the end of the day don't give a shit what it tastes like as long as it does the trick, but this doesnt. ALSO the buds were sticky and you could see the crystals, like sugar. So what's the problem, ANYONE??? Many thanks guys.
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That's rather hard to say.
It could be a few dif. things.....or any combination of things.
What strain?
How was it grown?
What nutrition?
When harvested? (how long was it in flower, under what lights, did you clip when the trichomes were ready?)
How long was it dried for?
How long did you cure it?

I could ask more but these should cover it....

Maybe next time,,, start your own thread......no problems, I'll answer.....But hijacking the thread is looked down upon by many.
 
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Puffter

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Dr. Who said:
That's rather hard to say.
Hi! I am so sorry I didn't realise the etiquette about posting.
I will open a new thread. But to answer your questions.
I dont know the strain, but it's def indica
Grown in soil under 600w of dual giant cfl
Nutrition baby bio
Flowering for 9 wks under warm/yellow giant cfl
Harvested/ dried for 4 days (but understand you are to cure them in Kilmer jars with the lid left loose)
I've done so much research, but this remains a very pragmatic hobby. I've two more yet to harvest, another drying, that doesn't smell foisty, but very worried about the potency.
THANKS FOR YOUR REPLY YOU ARE A STAR. Sorry for hijacking a post :)
It could be a few dif. things.....or any combination of things.
What strain?
How was it grown?
What nutrition?
When harvested? (how long was it in flower, under what lights, did you clip when the trichomes were ready?)
How long was it dried for?
How long did you cure it?

I could ask more but these should cover it....

Maybe next time,,, start your own thread......no problems, I'll answer.....But hijacking the thread is looked down upon by many.
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