LED DIY : Making of a "DJ SET "-style grow led light .

stardustsailor

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DJ SET -style grow light !!!!

LOL !!!!

Yeap !

Double module growlight ,using Guod's framework style ....

But let's begin ....


First stage : ....

Building the basic frame ....

-2 x large heatsinks ( here used 200 x 160 x 40 mm
-2 x pcs of unequal angles (here used 2 x ~ 60 cm EN 10056-1 STD: RSA 40 x 20 x 4 ( mm ) of Alum 6063 )
- Alum Rivets ( here used 16 x pieces of 4 x 16 mm )
-Thermoconductive glue (cheap one-silicon based - will do ... )
........

basic frame iso.jpgdim 1.jpgdim 2.jpgover 1.jpgriveting detail xray.jpg..


-Thermoconductive glue( silicone based ) is applied to the overlapping surfaces of riveted parts of heatsinks and angles ...
-Rivets can have ( A2 / A4 inox ) small washers behind ,for extra "grip " ...
 

stardustsailor

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Ok....Now,there's plenty of space to house one 120 mm fan (standard ~25 mm thickness )there ,over the heatsink ....


room for 120mm fan.jpg

Now ...To make the electronics compartment .....
This time we ,will leave "air outlets " from the sides of heatsink ....
So base will be face to angle's profiles ....
Measurements taken ....
taking dim bottom cover of el_ compartment.jpg

Two ' equal leg ' alum angles ( DIN 10056-1 ) RSA 25 x 25 x 3 and an alum plate ( of 4mm thickness ) used ...


bottom cover of el_ compartment.jpg
Plate should be of 161 - ( 2 x 3 mm ) width ( ~ 155 mm ) ..
And not 160 mm like shown at pic ( mistakes happen .... )
Riveted together .....Riveted parts ,also glued with thermal conductive silicone ...
( to conduct as much heat,through different parts )
.......

bottom cover ready.jpgdetail of bottom cover.jpg...
And attached to basic frame via 6 x Allen Screws ( M3 or M4 ) ...
( INOX A2 or A4 tool grade )

bottom view hca.jpgpanor 1.jpg

inner air outlet.jpgbottom cover attached with allen M3 or M4 screws.jpgb c in site.jpg

Now we have a bottom-accessible electronics compartment .
Bottom cover can be removed as top cover ...
 

stardustsailor

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Now ..Radical grower -wise design....


All " controls " ( rotary dimmer knobs ,fuses,on-off switches ,temp status Lcd &/or touchscreens (!!!! ),ect ....) at bottom of bottom cover ...!

out detail.jpgsitch detail.jpgswitch side.jpgswitch top.jpgswithes.jpg
 

stardustsailor

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Now ....
Thing is that everything starts from leds ...

Total power and arrangement ...

Driving ,cooling ,ect all starts from choices, considering primarily the leds ....

So ...
At this design ,for the leds to be driven, 4 drivers ( MeanWell APC 35-350 ) need to be used ....
Of this size each :
driver.jpg...

So ...We got our drivers ....
MeanWell APC 35_350 driver.jpgMeanWell APC 35_350 iso.jpg.....


And time to fit four of those in da box .....
fit those in there ....jpg..

Can't be ..
So many years' expierence as a man ,it should 've been useful ,right now ....
Sticking a large thing into tight ,small 'n hot places .....

:-P .....


Have to find a way there ,now .....
 

PSUAGRO.

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I'm liking this^^^........build it and "they" will come......Very nice so far SDS!You are a perverted genius:)
 

stardustsailor

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Thanx,my brother ....
Now in this design ....
Funny ...
While looking at it from the bottom (where leds are ..) should remind still a dj set ..


Looking From above ..On top side ....

To fight against heat ....

Drivers should stick out from top cover ( " hood " ) ...
Like a vintage analog monoblock amplifier ..
Where tranformers and electronic valves where sitted usually on top ,outside of the device's box ....

Kinda like the supercharger thing that sticks out from 70'-80's 'muscle-hot-rod" 'wheels' ..

Breathe air ....

Have to design ,a "protective cage ",there ..
Perforated stainless sheet ....?


Not a bad idea ...
Couple of angles or other profile,also ,to make a small "frame " ......

Later on ....
Now ,have to place drivers in da box ....
 

stardustsailor

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After two joints .....

4x pcs of unequal leg angles ..RSA 60 x 20 x 5 mm ...
(extra cooling for the drivers ...Thermal conductive glue everywhere here .... )

driver at.jpgdriver at2.jpgfar side.jpgokkkkk.jpgside after dr placing.jpg



EDIT :

Way too many rivets ...
Ok this panel it's "armored " enough ..
(5 mm thickness angles to attach drivers ! Overdoing it !
...........
But if free backside is "grooved "by i.e CNC ,then
those angles can be turned into small finned heatsinks,for the drivers ! )

Problem is elsewhere really ....
Rivets are way many ....too many rivets.jpg..
Looks like a submarine from the 50's .....


So drivers' "seat" angles ,have to be installed when making ( at previous step ) the electronics compartment "bottom " ....
(................2x equal leg angles + small base plate & 4x driver angles ,to be one unit ,riveted-and thermal-o-conductive glued -together ..)

now its better.jpgside xray.jpgtops 2 os.jpgtops.jpg


That's the good part of pre-modelling ..
Saves from trouble,nerves,money and time ....
Allows to spot any misfits,unnecessary or double work ,material waste or any other problems..
Plus it allows experimentation ....
Without actual,real-life cutting ,drilling,sawing ,riveting,ect ....
 

stardustsailor

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Ok ....

A typical 120 mm fan has these dimensions :

fan dim.jpg..
Blowing air out from the side with the rotor / motor frame ...

tip.jpg...

So ..On with "centering " fans to heatsinks ....

center fan to heatsink.jpgfan iso topside.jpg
fanheats bottom xray.jpgfans placed correctly.jpgheatfan side xr.jpg
 

stardustsailor

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Now ....
Let's start the top cover ....

Taking some measures first ....
electronics upper volume.jpg
.
Top cover will be made from 3 mm thick alum sheet ....

top cover alum sheet.jpg......Measuring holes
....and centering them .....measuring holes of top cover.jpg......

top cover holes made.jpg...Holes done .....

small problem.jpgneed bit bigger gaps.jpg....
This rectangular hole (for the drivers to stick out ) needs to be ,probably bigger ....
The "protective cage " has to fit,somehow ....
Will see about it ,later on .....
cover fit.jpgside with the cover on.jpg....

So far ,so good ....
 

PSUAGRO.

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YES!!!!^^^^^beautiful...........adding some air channeling outlets(air escapes under the switches and drivers) under the drivers allowing quick air exchange over the inner (center of panel)part of the heatsink and not adding heat to the switches/drivers themselves(increasing longevity).....yikes---can't explain correctly

were the hell is GUOD!!!!!


Edit:.......nevermind....your design shows no bottom cover/great airflow!...doh!! disregard any improvements I post:P
 

stardustsailor

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YES!!!!^^^^^beautiful...........adding some air channeling outlets(air escapes under the switches and drivers) under the drivers allowing quick air exchange over the inner (center of panel)part of the heatsink and not adding heat to the switches/drivers themselves(increasing longevity).....yikes---can't explain correctly

were the hell is GUOD!!!!!

Maybe I should have placed the drivers parallel to heatsink fins ,to allow for better air circulation ,inside the electronics compartment ....
But ...
Yes ......where is he ,when needed most ?
 

HiloReign

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Maybe I should have placed the drivers parallel to heatsink fins ,to allow for better air current ,inside the electronics compartment ....
I completely agree. This is looking top-notch.

Perhaps angling fans slightly so as to create a wind-tunnel effect(after turning drivers parallel)? I suppose that would leave a "dead" spot and would then require reworking the whole design...

Nevermind...
 

stardustsailor

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Angling fans ....Easy done with washers .....

But ,each heatsink will bear two led modules ....
I need them to be as equally cooled as possible ....
Angling the fans ,might create problems there ....


Have to try to turn the drivers parallel ....
( again the old base rivets back in place & changing top cover rect. hole dimensions .. )

Maybe move the switches and fuses at center ,so to place pairs of drivers-one driver behind other ,like cyclists -
at sides of compartment ,where they will not
obscure(that much ) the internal air flow ...

Wait I 'll give it a quick try ...
Fix the details (rivets ) later on ...
 

stardustsailor

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Now ,guys ...
Many minds are better than one (heavily stoned and without getting decent sleep/rest .... )..
Help out ....


replaced drivers.jpghmmmmmm.jpg

Drivers re-arranged .....
Air flow is way better than before .....(but a small 12 V psu-for the fans - is missing there also .....)
Now ..Angles' backsides can be used as part of frame (Side walls of top cover for electronics compartment..phewww)


switches fuses rearranged.jpg
Swithes and fuse holders had to be re-arranged also ....
(Not anymore cold switches ....This panel has ...heated swithes ....Warm to touch ..makes you eager to switch on ..LOL !!!...)


cable bend.jpg
Some cable bending and 'circuitry-cable- pasta/macaroni -syndrome ' placing (AC inletof one driver with DC CC outlet of other driver ..
Cables come 'n go ,everywhere .....)


why have two angles there.jpg

And finally ,the major question ..
Why the heck having two angles there ? ( 4x drivers and 2x bottom cover base ,actually .....)

Incorporate two only angles ,as " bottom cover base " holding/attaching structures and at same time ,
Side walls of top cover construction (non-removable) ,that drivers will be attached on ...

Thing is attaching the drivers ........
Have to use screws .....Which will penetrate basic frame's long angles .....

From inner side or from outter ?

Oh...Have to design it .....


EDIT:
(Can't imagine this thing happening in real life .....
....Oh $h..
dismantling.jpg
 

stardustsailor

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Ok ....Take an idea .....


new base overtop.jpgnew base.jpg......=> new driver placement.jpg
..Swithes/fuse holders moved again ...bottom view.jpg
And .........better now eh.jpgnew 45.jpg.....
As for top cover .........cover designed again.jpgfrom tops new.jpg....
Air flow/heat management seems really improved now ....=>profile air flow far.jpgprofile air flow.jpg
 

stardustsailor

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Now .....An extra large central grill was added in top cover ,between drivers ....
Made of a small piece of perforated SS sheet ...

over2top.jpgxrayreworkedv.jpgzenitalview.jpgbottomview 1.jpg

Now...If zDrivers should be left as is (uncovered ),there's no mains cable showing ...
How to attach them ,remains an issue ...
With screws ...
But how ...
From the inner side or from outer side ?
(At inner side, screw head will be amongst cables ,there...)
hmmmsmallissue.jpg
 
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